2018 NFL Draft

[ACamp1900]

Jets traded up to #3 sending #6 and 3 second round picks to Indy.

Massive for the Browns. Guarantees almost that the top non-QB on their board will be there at #4.

Giants could still take Barkley but yeah... Chubb AND Fitz should be there at four... take your pick.

 

[STLDomer]

Giants could still take Barkley but yeah... Chubb AND Fitz should be there at four... take your pick.

Damn yeah confused Giants with someone else for second pick so yeah first post not accurate. But still a win definitely for Browns

 

[ACamp1900]

Damn yeah confused Giants with someone else for second pick so yeah first post not accurate. But still a win definitely for Browns

Yep, what it does do is all but guarantee the top defender at four......

 

[Irish YJ]

Jets traded up to #3 sending #6 and 3 second round picks to Indy.

Massive for the Browns. Guarantees almost that the top non-QB on their board will be there at #4.

Absolutely fantastic for the Colts too. Only dropping three spots and picking up 3 second round picks (2 this year, 1 in 2019) is crazy. Ballard has been preaching building through the draft (instead of FA), and he's positioning himself nicely. They still can take a top 10 guy, and will have 3 opportunities to find value in the 2nd (2 early). Me likey

 

[ACamp1900]

Who are the Jets moving for? Trying to trade up again? Maybe even with us? I ask because obviously they want a QB but there's a good chance two will already be off the board. It seems strange to move now, this far out, just so you can have whoever the Browns and Giants don't take. Maybe they're in love with Allen and assume it's Darnold and Rosen??

 

[Irish YJ]

Who are the Jets moving for? Trying to trade up again? Maybe even with us? I ask because obviously they want a QB but there's a good chance two will already be off the board. It seems strange to move now, this far out, just so you can have whoever the Browns and Giants don't take. Maybe they're in love with Allen and assume it's Darnold and Rosen??

I think one reason, they were afraid somebody else was going to trade with Indy for a QB, which would have happened had they not jumped.

 

[Legacy]

Who are the Jets moving for? Trying to trade up again? Maybe even with us? I ask because obviously they want a QB but there's a good chance two will already be off the board. It seems strange to move now, this far out, just so you can have whoever the Browns and Giants don't take. Maybe they're in love with Allen and assume it's Darnold and Rosen??

Jets were probably competing with Buffalo at #12, who was positioning for moving up after trade with Cincy for that pick. Indy probably took the best offer plus, as you noted, Jets would be best trade partner due to their pick in 2019 vs Buffalo's 2019.

Indy now with nine picks, six in top 100. Also, as YJ noted, prior to Indy's #6, only one of Cleveland's picks may be a non-QB. (NYG, NYJ, Denver, one of Cleveland's potentially pick a QB).

Indy now has the 36, 37, 49 in second.
In comparison, Cleveland has 33, 35 in the second.

 

[ACamp1900]

Good for Indy but it feels like Jets may have panicked a bit... Giants could still surprise but yeah, should be a lot of QBs off the board early...

 

[Legacy]

What if Indy trades back again from 6? Buffalo (12) still needs a QB. Do they jump Miami (11) and potentially take the fourth or fifth best QB? Trade for Foles? Trade with Cleveland for #4?

 

[Irish YJ]

Good for Indy but it feels like Jets may have panicked a bit... Giants could still surprise but yeah, should be a lot of QBs off the board early...

Double good for Indy. Indy I think is happy with getting one of 2-3 non-QBs with that 6 pick. I'd prefer Chubb, but not sure he'll be there after Denver... I'd be happy with best available. If they don't get Chubb, would love them to grap Q, but think they would grab Barkley if he's still there or one of the DBs. I'd be happy if they wait till R2 for WRs and RBs.

 

[Irish YJ]

What if Indy trades back again from 6? Buffalo (12) still needs a QB. Do they jump Miami (11) and potentially take the fourth or fifth best QB? Trade for Foles? Trade with Cleveland for #4?

I'd be down with that if they don't think Chubb will be there. Colts need a lot. OL, Edge, DBs, RB, WRs..... so I'd be happy with getting 12 and 22 for 6, or 12 and a few 2nd round (53 and 56)....

 

[Legacy]

I'd be down with that if they don't think Chubb will be there. Colts need a lot. OL, Edge, DBs, RB, WRs..... so I'd be happy with getting 12 and 22 for 6, or 12 and a few 2nd round (53 and 56)....

Just imaging Chris Ballard telling Buffalo that NY Jets offer is too good to pass on, but Buffalo could have the Jets pick at 6 for the right price. Asking Bills if they want to include a player and pick in '19 instead of one of those second rounders?

 

[Irish YJ]

Just imaging Chris Ballard telling Buffalo that NY Jets offer is too good to pass on, but Buffalo could have the Jets pick at 6 for the right price. Asking Bills if they want to include a player and pick in '19 instead of one of those second rounders?

That would be funny (Buf ending up with Jet's pick).

I don't think Ballard wants any one's players lol.... It would have to be a deal that was good for them talent wise, as well as financial and duration. I really can't think of anyone on Buffalo I'd want except for maybe Hyde (looking at the Colt's needs).

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

The Jets showing their hand this early could be great for the Browns. If anyone else is sold on a specific QB, they'll be trading for one of the top 2 picks.

Great job by the Colts, stockpile those picks. Trade back again if you can.

 

[Irish#1]

This is exactly what I was hoping for. Chubb will be gone, but Q will be there. Then use the other picks to fill several other needs. I don’t see Ballard trading back any further.

 

[ACamp1900]

I'd say about 65% of the Browns boards/pages are of the mindset that not only are we drafting a low value position like RB at 1... but when we do it'll make us a Super Bowl condtender... geez, this fan base has seen so much bad football lately that over half of us don't even know wtf is going on anymore.

 

[Irish YJ]

I'd say about 65% of the Browns boards/pages are of the mindset that not only are we drafting a low value position like RB at 1... but when we do it'll make us a Super Bowl condtender... geez, this fan base has seen so much bad football lately that over half of us don't even know wtf is going on anymore.

I think all NFL boards are similar. The Colts board is the same in a lot of ways. I think they have SO MANY fans, you get a ton of folks who have much more passion than knowledge of the game. Not everyone who loves their home team is willing, able, or interested in knowing the data and science behind the game. And that's OK. I'm sure 50+% of the folks who show up at the game on the weekends are knowledge challenged..... and just care that their team wins and looks sexy offensively. As long as they are there screaming their heads off and love their team, I'm good with that lol....

A lot of Colts fans want Barkley too (I wouldn't be totally pissed to have him either). And...A lot of folks on the Colts board were pissed that the Colts traded the 3 pick to NYJ. I thought it was absolutely the right thing to do. I'd even be OK with them trading again with Buf (even though I really want them to get Chubb) if they can pick up 2 first rounders for the price of dropping 6 slots.

 

[ACamp1900]

I think all NFL boards are similar. The Colts board is the same in a lot of ways. I think they have SO MANY fans, you get a ton of folks who have much more passion than knowledge of the game. Not everyone who loves their home team is willing, able, or interested in knowing the data and science behind the game. And that's OK. I'm sure 50+% of the folks who show up at the game on the weekends are knowledge challenged..... and just care that their team wins and looks sexy offensively. As long as they are there screaming their heads off and love their team, I'm good with that lol....

A lot of Colts fans want Barkley too (I wouldn't be totally pissed to have him either). And...A lot of folks on the Colts board were pissed that the Colts traded the 3 pick to NYJ. I thought it was absolutely the right thing to do. I'd even be OK with them trading again with Buf (even though I really want them to get Chubb) if they can pick up 2 first rounders for the price of dropping 6 slots.

Barkley would be nice.... in the second round.

I guess I really appreciate this place, aside from the political foolishness on both sides everyone is pretty down to earth and knowledgeable.

 

[Irish YJ]

Barkley would be nice.... in the second round.

I guess I really appreciate this place, aside from the political foolishness on both sides everyone is pretty down to earth and knowledgeable.

Yup and yup. IE is a pretty damn good place, even with some of the politics and more extreme personalities. All places have those lol.

I'd take Barkley at the bottom half of the first round. Maybe after the 10th pick depending on need. I do think he'll be a very productive player, and a possible freak if he gets on a team with a decent line and passing game.

 

[RDU Irish]

Absolutely fantastic for the Colts too. Only dropping three spots and picking up 3 second round picks (2 this year, 1 in 2019) is crazy. Ballard has been preaching building through the draft (instead of FA), and he's positioning himself nicely. They still can take a top 10 guy, and will have 3 opportunities to find value in the 2nd (2 early). Me likey

Such a great move by the Colts - gotta love their position based on such wide ranging needs and how this draft looks to be shaking out. Elite to high quality OL options should be abundant for picks 36, 37, 49 if Q is gone at #6. I would think he is their top target at that spot. First round talent will be there at 36/37 - they probably will be able to go "best available" there as well and use #49 for area of highest need.

End of they day - don't they pretty much have to take two OL in those first four picks to show they are serious about keeping Luck out of the hospital? Also better to have a 3-4rd RB and two first round OL than Barkley and some later round OL, no?

 

[ACamp1900]

Daniel Jeremiah is reporting that Cleveland is down to Darnold or Mayfield at 1.

 

[NDdomer2]

Mayfield?

 

[koonja]

Do you guys remember the story of the Browns owner or GM, can't remember which, who was talking about how he decided they'd draft Johnny Maziel right after they did?

He talked about how he was walking to a restaurant and a homeless guy tapped him on the shoulder and said "draft Johnny". And that's when he new the city needed Johnny.

Such a Browns'y story.

 

[ACamp1900]

Mayfield?

That's the report....

 

[Irish#1]

Such a great move by the Colts - gotta love their position based on such wide ranging needs and how this draft looks to be shaking out. Elite to high quality OL options should be abundant for picks 36, 37, 49 if Q is gone at #6. I would think he is their top target at that spot. First round talent will be there at 36/37 - they probably will be able to go "best available" there as well and use #49 for area of highest need.

End of they day - don't they pretty much have to take two OL in those first four picks to show they are serious about keeping Luck out of the hospital? Also better to have a 3-4rd RB and two first round OL than Barkley and some later round OL, no?

With so many needs, OL, DL, DE, LB, RB, & WR they can take best available. Too many teams miss when they draft for need and take a guy earlier then they should.

I'm not sure they will take more than one OL early. Kelly will be back at center and Seinfelds best friend will be back at LT. If Newhort is healthy, I would see them flipping him to RG. I wouldn't cry if they took Q and another lineman with the first two picks.


Just heard on the radio that the deal with Grant is finalized.

 

[Irish#1]

Heard this morning that Mayfield is producing his own web based reality show that will chronicle his days leading up to the draft. After hearing several teams at the combine were not impressed with his interviews, I'm thinking this is a damage control thing his agent is behind.

 

[NDohio]

Daniel Jeremiah is reporting that Cleveland is down to Darnold or Mayfield at 1.

If my team were deciding between these two I would be really torn:

Mayfield - Unorthodox style, undersized, Seems to have a chip on his shoulder (in a good way), very competitive, winner. Is he too much like Johnny Football?


Darnold - Prototypical NFL QB skill set and size, lacks focus sometimes, doesn't seem to have that killer instinct. He looked terrible against ND and in their bowl game last year. Didn't seem like he could read the defenses that were being thrown at him in those games.

Who you prefer ACamp?

 

[ACamp1900]

If my team were deciding between these two I would be really torn:

Mayfield - Unorthodox style, undersized, Seems to have a chip on his shoulder (in a good way), very competitive, winner. Is he too much like Johnny Football?


Darnold - Prototypical NFL QB skill set and size, lacks focus sometimes, doesn't seem to have that killer instinct. He looked terrible against ND and in their bowl game last year. Didn't seem like he could read the defenses that were being thrown at him in those games.

Who you prefer ACamp?

I think Mayfield has a chance... I do get the personality concerns but it's not JFF level stuff imo... more like Jameis Winston. I'd be very concerned with taking him at 1 as you can almost certainly get him later... I think he's a fighter and works hard but I think there are better, prototypical QB prospects in this draft,... say, someone like....


Darnold.

 

[NDohio]

I think Mayfield has a chance... I do get the personality concerns but it's not JFF level stuff imo... more like Jameis Winston. I'd be very concerned with taking him at 1 as you can almost certainly get him later... I think he's a fighter and works hard but I think there are better, prototypical QB prospects in this draft,... say, someone like....


Darnold.

I think I could agree with that. The thing with Darnold though was that the games where he was bad, he was really, really bad. Mayfield didn't have that same issue.

 

[ACamp1900]

I think I could agree with that. The thing with Darnold though was that the games where he was bad, he was really, really bad. Mayfield didn't have that same issue.

Yep. I think Darnold's main issue was footwork under pressure... when he went awry last year he tended to get happy feet/plant foot issues while getting hit/pressured. He needs to learn to just take the hit/sack more often (At least that's what I saw last year, could be way off though, who knows) ... With Mayfield I do think his scheme in college left him with a ton of easy throws. This isn't an issue/negative as at least one current 'great QB' has made a career out of scheme/easy throws. I would however say that Mayfield's success may depend more heavily on where he lands and who his coaches are than Darnold's (This obviously matters to every prospect to varying degrees).