2018 NFL Draft

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2017 NFL Draft = Old and Busted
2018 NFL Draft = New Hotness


Location: TBD (14 cities bidding, Dallas and Philly favorites at the moment)
Dates: 26 - 28 APR 18

Picks that have already been moved (source: Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_NFL_Draft)

Round 1
Houston → Cleveland (PD). Houston traded their first-round selection in 2018 and their first-round selection in 2017 (25th) to Cleveland in exchange for Cleveland's first-round selection in 2017 (12th).
Chiefs → Bills (PD). Kansas City traded their first-round selection in 2018 as well as their first- and third-round selections in 2017 (27th and 91st) to Buffalo in exchange for Buffalo's first-round selection in 2017

Round 2
Houston → Cleveland (PD). Houston traded their second-round selection, their sixth-round selection in 2017 (188th), and quarterback Brock Osweiler to Cleveland in exchange for Cleveland's fourth-round selection in 2017 (142nd).
Philadelphia → Cleveland (PD). Philadelphia traded their second-round selection in 2018, as well as a first-, third-, and fourth-round selections in 2016 (8th, 77th, and 100th) and their first-round selection in 2017 to Cleveland in exchange for Cleveland's first-round selection in 2016 (2nd) and a fourth-round selection in 2017.
New Orleans → San Francisco (PD). New Orleans traded their second-round selection in 2018, as well as a seventh-round selection in 2017 (229th) to San Francisco in exchange for San Francisco's third-round selection in 2017 (67th).

Round 3
Chicago → San Francisco (PD). Chicago traded their third-round selection in 2018, as well as their first-, third-, and fourth-round selections in 2017 (3rd, 67th, and 111th) to San Francisco in exchange for San Francisco's first-round selection in 2017 (2nd).

Round 4
Carolina → Cleveland (PD). Carolina traded their fourth-round selection in 2018 and punter Kasey Redfern to Cleveland in exchange for punter Andy Lee and Cleveland's seventh-round selection in 2017.
Minnesota → Philadelphia (PD). Minnesota traded their fourth-round selection in 2018, as well as a their first-round selection in 2017 to Philadelphia in exchange for quarterback Sam Bradford.
Arizona → Chicago (PD). Arizona traded their fourth-round selection in 2018, as well as their second-, fourth-, and sixth-round selections in 2017 (45th, 119th, 197th) to Chicago in exchange for Chicago's second-round selection in 2017 (36th).
San Francisco → Denver (PD). San Francisco traded their fourth-round selection to Denver in exchange for running back Kapri Bibbs and their fifth-round selection in 2017 (177th).

Round 5
Oakland → Seattle (PD). Oakland traded their fifth-round selection in 2018 to Seattle in exchange for running back Marshawn Lynch and Seattle's sixth-round selection.

Round 6
Pittsburgh → Cleveland (PD). Pittsburgh traded their sixth-round selection in 2018 to Cleveland in exchange for cornerback Justin Gilbert.
Seattle → Oakland (PD). Seattle traded their sixth-round selection in 2018 and running back Marshawn Lynch to Oakland in exchange for their fifth-round pick.

Round 7
Kansas City → San Francisco (PD). Kansas City traded their seventh-round selection in 2018 to San Francisco in exchange for cornerback Kenneth Acker.
Jacksonville → Miami (PD). Jacksonville traded their seventh-round selection in 2018 to Miami in exchange for offensive tackle Brandon Albert.
Tampa Bay Buccaners → Miami (D). Tampa Bay Buccaners traded their seventh-round selection in 2018 and the 237th pick in the 2017 draft for the Miami Dolphins' 223rd pick in 2017 NFL Draft.

Conditional/undetermined
Arizona → Kansas City (PD). Chicago Bears via Arizona traded an undisclosed draft pick to Kansas City in exchange for cornerback Marcus Cooper.
Baltimore → Los Angeles Rams (PD). Baltimore traded a conditional seventh-round selection to the Rams in exchange for wide receiver Chris Givens
Buffalo → Green Bay (PD). Jacksonville Jaguars via Buffalo traded a conditional seventh-round selection to Green Bay in exchange for linebacker Lerentee McCray.
Cincinnati → Jacksonville (PD). Cincinnati traded a conditional selection to Jacksonville in exchange for defensive end Chris Smith.
New England → New Orleans (PD). New England traded a conditional seventh-round selection to New Orleans in exchange for kick returner Jalen Saunders.
New England → Philadelphia (PD). New England traded a conditional fourth-round selection to Philadelphia in exchange for cornerback Eric Rowe. The fourth-round selection can become a third-round selection based on Rowe's playing time in 2016 and 2017.


Teams that added the most draft capital going into 2018: (Free ESPN Article)
Teams that added the most future NFL draft capital

1. Cleveland
2. 49ers
3. Buffalo
4. Chicago
5. Jets
6. Dolphins

Way too early mock drafts for funnsies - wave 1:

CBSSPORTS Way-too-early 2018 NFL Mock Draft: In loaded QB draft, top passers go 1-2-3 - CBSSports.com

10. Mike McGlinchey - Jags
25. Q. Nelson - Packers

BLEACHER REPORT 2018 NFL Mock Draft: Matt Miller's Way-Too-Early Predictions | Bleacher Report

13. Mike McGlinchey - Dolphins
26. Q. Nelson - Falcons

WALTER FOOTBALL 2018 NFL Mock Draft - WalterFootball.com

7. Mike McGlinchey - Bengals
18. Q. Nelson - Giants
 

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Next year's draft should be tons of fan for we Brownie fans....
 

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If ever the Browns have a chance to turn things around, the time is now. They have enough draft picks stockpiled to address positional issues. They need to find a good-doesn't have to be great- QB and hit on some of these picks. I hope they can pull it off.... if only for my little buddy ACamp's sake.
 

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If ever the Browns have a chance to turn things around, the time is now. They have enough draft picks stockpiled to address positional issues. They need to find a good-doesn't have to be great- QB and hit on some of these picks. I hope they can pull it off.... if only for my little buddy ACamp's sake.

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5 selections in the first 2 rounds is really nice. They need to keep them and not bunch them together to make a move up. They need to simply draft best available player and they will look like a completely different franchise in 2018.

If they have the discipline to sit Kizer this year and let him learn, even better. They can grab some offensive weapons and bolster their line while snagging some additional defensive players.

It'll be a lot of fun to watch how this unfolds.

(and those Texans picks in the 1st and 2nd should be mid round) There is no way Deshaun Watson leads them to the playoffs unless he surprises everyone)

Crazier things have happened but I'd be very confident if I we the Browns front office.
 

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I agree by and large with one small caveat... if the Browns do better than expected this year and don't have one of the top picks but STILL aren't settled at QB (yes teams can actually win some games while still looking for that QB) then I'd be okay with trading up to get Rosen or whoever it is ... aside from that very specific scenario, yep you stay where you are and take the best player available, or hell even trade back just like they did in this year's draft and get even more first rounders...
 

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5 selections in the first 2 rounds is really nice. They need to keep them and not bunch them together to make a move up. They need to simply draft best available player and they will look like a completely different franchise in 2018.

If they have the discipline to sit Kizer this year and let him learn, even better. They can grab some offensive weapons and bolster their line while snagging some additional defensive players.

It'll be a lot of fun to watch how this unfolds.

(and those Texans picks in the 1st and 2nd should be mid round) There is no way Deshaun Watson leads them to the playoffs unless he surprises everyone)

Crazier things have happened but I'd be very confident if I we the Browns front office.

I can tell you how this is gonna go.

Garrett will show immense talent but get hurt. Peppers will show flashes in the special teams ala Cribbs, but get burnt routinely in coverage. David Njoku will not even exist and Kizer will come in halfway through the season when Kessler gets his head literally ripped off his shoulders. By then, team morale will be in the shitter and the rest of the picks wont be able to do anything about it.

2018 - Browns draft in the top 5.
 

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I can tell you how this is gonna go.

Garrett will show immense talent but get hurt. Peppers will show flashes in the special teams ala Cribbs, but get burnt routinely in coverage. David Njoku will not even exist and Kizer will come in halfway through the season when Kessler gets his head literally ripped off his shoulders. By then, team morale will be in the shitter and the rest of the picks wont be able to do anything about it.

2018 - Browns draft in the top 5.

That's almost best case scenario for the Browns outside of Kizer playing. But if he comes in and the team is 2-7, then it's gravy. Get his feet wet, hopefully compete and keep their picks in the top 3rd.

If the draft is deep, they'll have one off for the ages. If they are able to trade back once or twice and further stockpile for 2019, even better. Not a Browns fan but it'd be fun to see them turn it around.
 

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Out of all of them Njoku will be the one asked to start and carry a load the soonest... if he is non-existent he will have to be epic levels of flop/suck... I guess his floor given the circumstance is he plays way below expectations, but still plays for a few years then bounces out.
 

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Out of all of them Njoku will be the one asked to start and carry a load the soonest... if he is non-existent he will have to be epic levels of flop/suck... I guess his floor given the circumstance is he plays way below expectations, but still plays for a few years then bounces out.

you gotta think they bring in a vet to help him out. all their other TE's are 1/2 years in the league themselves. No way can this kid handle the in-line blocking stuff.
 

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I know it's easy to have the Browns there but this was the first time ever they really ""earned" the first overall ( only ever had it after winning a championship, not sure how that happened, and when they expanded back in the league) ... I seriously doubt they get it back to back.
 

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I know it's easy to have the Browns there but this was the first time ever they really ""earned" the first overall ( only ever had it after winning a championship, not sure how that happened, and when they expanded back in the league) ... I seriously doubt they get it back to back.

I could definitely see the Niners getting it. But it seems like it's been a random team that just has a terrible year. The Bucs and Titans weren't projected to "earn" the 1st overall pick in 15 & 16, and I don't think anybody had the Chiefs and Texans falling off a cliff for 13 & 14 1st overall picks.
 

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I could definitely see the Niners getting it. But it seems like it's been a random team that just has a terrible year. The Bucs and Titans weren't projected to "earn" the 1st overall pick in 15 & 16, and I don't think anybody had the Chiefs and Texans falling off a cliff for 13 & 14 1st overall picks.

Jets are a real contender.
 

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I could definitely see the Niners getting it. But it seems like it's been a random team that just has a terrible year. The Bucs and Titans weren't projected to "earn" the 1st overall pick in 15 & 16, and I don't think anybody had the Chiefs and Texans falling off a cliff for 13 & 14 1st overall picks.

The Chiefs targeted Mahomes, had accumulated the picks, and there were lots of rumors of them and others moving into that draft area or higher. The Bills and Jets needed the picks. Once the Jets and Chargers did not select a QB or trade the picks, all had to focus on the Bills pick because the Saints wanted an understudy for Brees and had also settled on Mahomes. Sean Payton said that after Lattimore, Mahomes was next on their draft board, so if Lattimore had been chosen or a team jumped up to take the CB, the Saints wanted him, as KC suspected.

The Giants tried to trade for the Bills pick to take Mahomes and were "very upset" they did not get it. The Cardinals at 13 had targeted Mahomes so when the Chiefs got Mahomes and New Orleans went CB with Lattimore, the Texans had to make the trade for 12 ahead of Arzona to select Watson.

The Chiefs even offered four picks to the Titans to move up to #5 to pick Mahomes.

The Bears, Chiefs and Texans gave up plenty for risky QB prospects ... here's why
 
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I think the Bears have as good of a chance as anyone with that shitty ass draft they put together this year. They didn't grab any tackles, zero offensive weapons for Glennon or Trubisky, and grabbed next to zero defensive talent. I'll be surprised if they win more than 3 games in 2017. They'll have the #1 pick but should trade down because a QB for them would make zero sense now.
 

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Browns just traded Cam Irving for yet another draft pick in the 2018 draft........
 

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Mel Kiper's Mane released it's updated preseason Big Board yesterday for the 2018 draft in and ESPN Insider Article linked below.

Mel Kiper preseason Big Board - Top 25 prospects ranking for 2018 NFL draft

Spoiler Alert....no Notre Dame players at this time. Somehow even a doofus tackle from Texas made the leap.

Players of note:

1. Sam Darnold - still has a dumb name, but the creep can roll.
7. Harold Landry (Boston College) - will present a unique challenge
24. Bradley Chubb (NC State) - another good test for our lineman who aren't good enough to make this stupid list

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He also put out his top 10 by position list as an ESPN Insider article linked below:
NFL draft 2018 - Mel Kiper's top 10 prospects rankings across each position

Top senior offensive tackle? Mike McGlinchey
Top underclassmen offensive guard? Q. Nelson

He even notes what a powerful duo this is, but you know not good enough to break the top 25 players from Alabama and teh Ohio State.

Defensive Tackle Underclassmen: #5 Terry Jillery
ILB Senior Under Consideration: Nyles Morgan
 
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I think IE fans, and probably any fans that follow one school too closely, vastly overrate their team's talent. There are so many other 5 star, 4 star, and even 3 star CFB players that are awesome, we just don't follow them.

And Kiper is a ND fan, and he openly admits that.
 

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Q should definitely be in the top 25 if it's just by talent, and Big Mike should absolutely be on it if it's based on value. The top 3 being QBs (or so I'm told, I don't have insider) is a friggin' joke. Josh Allen might be a great QB eventually, but he isn't close to one now.
 
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Q should definitely be in the top 25 if it's just by talent, and Big Mike should absolutely be on it if it's based on value. The top 3 being QBs (or so I'm told, I don't have insider) is a friggin' joke. Josh Allen might be a great QB eventually, but he isn't close to one now.

I don't think McFlinchey is a top 25 player at all. At least not form what we've seen to date - if he kills it this year maybe that changes, but he's not a top 25 player based on his last two years.
 

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I think IE fans, and probably any fans that follow one school too closely, vastly overrate their team's talent. There are so many other 5 star, 4 star, and even 3 star CFB players that are awesome, we just don't follow them.

And Kiper is a ND fan, and he openly admits that.

You don't think Big Mike is a top 25 prospect for the next NFL draft?
 

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I don't think McFlinchey is a top 25 player at all. At least not form what we've seen to date - if he kills it this year maybe that changes, but he's not a top 25 player based on his last two years.

Weird, cuz outside of this one article, pretty much everyone disagrees with you.


Your whole "ND players suck and the rest of college football is great" schtick has gotten incredibly old.
 
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Weird, cuz outside of this one article, pretty much everyone disagrees with you.


Your whole "ND players suck and the rest of college football is great" schtick has gotten incredibly old.

Homers call it old, general college football fans call it real. You can tell me how great a 4-8 team's talent is all you want, the truth will out.
 
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