2018 AP & Coaches Polls

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Tomorrow's Top 25 Today: Michigan to make top-10 debut after big win in college football rankings
Projecting the new college football rankings from the AP poll after a crazy Week 7
Chip Patterson 1h ago

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Avoiding losses is the name of the game these days, and doing so will be rewarded with brisk moves up in the new college football rankings.

Here's how we think the new AP Top 25 poll will look on Sunday:

1. Alabama (Last week -- 1): The status of Tua Tagovailoa's knee is going to be a topic of conversation that is sure to get under Nick Saban's skin, though it should be noted that he says the gifted sophomore could have returned to the game against Missouri and practiced all week. Even without Tua, Jalen Hurts proved again he's more than capable in guiding the Tide to a win, leaving them as the last undefeated team in the SEC.

2. Ohio State (3): Dwayne Haskins' passing numbers are starting to get ridiculous. Look for Haskins' Heisman Trophy talk to continue to pick up steam after he dropped 412 yards on 33-for-44 passing in a 30-14 win against Minnesota.

3. Clemson (4): The Tigers were off in Week 7.

4. Notre Dame (5): If you're getting 2012-type vibes with the way Notre Dame is surviving some of these close games, there's a reason for that. This team, also led by its veterans on defense, is 7-0 for the first time since that year.

5. Georgia (2): The Bulldogs' poll status was helped by the carnage elsewhere in the top 10, keeping a team that should still be considered the favorite in the SEC East right on the edge (if not in) the top five.

6. Texas (9): The Longhorns got pushed by Baylor, saw Sam Ehlinger get knocked out of the game with an injury and nearly got upset in a letdown spot following the breakthrough win against Oklahoma. But just by surviving in a 23-17 win, Texas will move up.

7. LSU (13): Just because LSU beat Georgia does not mean that its guaranteed the Tigers will jump the Bulldogs in the AP poll. Look no further than last week, when LSU was ranked ahead of Florida after losing in Gainesville. The important number here is not the national ranking, but the one loss that keeps LSU in the SEC West and College Football Playoff race.

8. UCF (10): Saturday was the first time that it started to look like there is a path for UCF to make the College Football Playoff. Last year, the Knights started the season too far off the radar to make up ground in conference play. Now, they're past one of their toughest tests of the regular season and making moves in the top 10 with a win over Memphis.

9. Michigan (12): Everyone had Michigan firmly in a wait-and-see position as the Wolverines bowled over opponents for most of the last month, but Saturday's win against Wisconsin was the wake-up call that Jim Harbaugh has a team that's ready to compete with Ohio State for a Big Ten championship.

10. Oklahoma (11): The Sooners were off in Week 7.

11. Florida (14): Look for the Gators to make a slight move up after trailing early and rallying back against Vanderbilt. It was a feisty game that didn't make for the best look, but it keeps Florida among the ranks of the 1-loss teams heading into its annual rivalry game against Georgia in two weeks.

12. Oregon (17): The Ducks have the head-to-head advantage in the Pac-12 North that could propel Mario Cristobal to the Pac-12 Championship Game if they can run the table in conference play.

13. West Virginia (6): Going into Ames at night is no fun for any Big 12 title contender, and the timing of this loss for West Virginia is just as damning as some of the other giants that have been slain by the Cyclones over the years. This time, though, it's not the late-season, knock you away from your goals loss as much as the mid-season, eliminate wiggle room the standings with more tough conference games left loss.

14. Kentucky (18): The Wildcats were off in Week 7.

15. NC State (20): The Wolfpack were off in Week 7.

16. Washington (7): There shouldn't be too much of a penalty for the Huskies for losing in a classic game at Oregon, but the Auburn loss looks more and more tough to explain away every week.

17. Penn State (8): Crazy to think that this Penn State is probably going to finish third or fourth in the Big Ten East standings, but these close, heartbreaking losses are totally changing the ceiling for one of the more talented rosters in the country.

18. Texas A&M (22): The Aggies spent the last two weeks learning how to win close games in different ways, getting victories in both of its cross-division games against Kentucky and South Carolina. Right now, this team's only losses are to undefeated, top-five teams so look for a move up for Jimbo Fisher's bunch.

19. Wisconsin (15): A lot of teams have lost in the Big House, but this defeat has revealed some issues that were previously overlooked heading into the season, including the limitations of Alex Hornibrook and whether or not this Badgers defense is playing up to the standard of the last couple years.

20. Colorado (19): The Buffs are currently in action against USC. (And getting whipped!)

21. USF (23): We'll see how closely voters were following Friday night's USF-Tulsa game, because there wasn't a ton from that performance to give confidence in the Bulls being one of the 25 best teams still country. But Charlie Strong's group is still undefeated, and that's worth recognizing with a national ranking.

22. Mississippi State (24): The Bulldogs were off in Week 7.

23. Cincinnati (25): The Bearcats were off in Week 7.

24. Iowa (NR): The Hawkeyes kicked down the doors in Bloomington and ran all over Indiana. With just one loss on the slate, look for Iowa to be back in the rankings.

25. Appalachian State (NR): The Mountaineers not only won a crucial game for the Sun Belt title race but did so emphatically, riding a really strong defense to a 35-9 win at Arkansas State.

Projected to drop out: Miami (16), Auburn (21)
 

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How would Georgia stay ahead of LSU? LSU has a better SOS to date and beat them.
 

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How would Georgia stay ahead of LSU? LSU has a better SOS to date and beat them.

You're absolutely correct. But is that the way the voters in both the AP and Coaches Polls think?

Are voters casting ballots for the best teams this week or the ones with the best shot at finishing at the top in the Final Poll? Or are they jockeying for position in the bowl berth and playoff selections?

LSU has a better SOS and beat them. LSU will have an even tougher SOS when the season ends but they're more likely to lose in those games than UGA is. UGA has a clearer shot at getting to the Conference Championship Game than LSU does which is a leg up on getting to the playoffs. They still have to beat Bama unless LSU can do so in the regular season.

I'm not arguing with you rather trying to respond to your question as to how pundits or poll voters could rank UGA higher. It depends upon the voters as the polls don't have a clear description of how to formulate a vote.
 

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If Georgia is ranked ahead of LSU the poll is garbage. That would almost be like ranking Michigan over ND. Having said that, beating teams in The Swamp, Death Valley, Between the Hedges, etc. is hard to do and should carry weight if accomplished but not be a season killer if you lose. I do think that this may be the season that two SEC teams are not getting in.
 

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I don't get how Patterson says we're "getting 2012-type vibes" while skunk bears "bowled over opponents for most the last month." This was one game.
 

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I don't get how Patterson says we're "getting 2012-type vibes" while skunk bears "bowled over opponents for most the last month." This was one game.

I feel like he meant it in the sense that this is the first time they have been 7-0 since then and there is definitely a feel that they could finish undefeated even when winning close games.
 

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If Georgia is ranked ahead of LSU the poll is garbage. That would almost be like ranking Michigan over ND. Having said that, beating teams in The Swamp, Death Valley, Between the Hedges, etc. is hard to do and should carry weight if accomplished but not be a season killer if you lose. I do think that this may be the season that two SEC teams are not getting in.

Based on who LSU has beat...they should be fifth right behind ND...right?
 

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LMAO Yahoo Sports has us at #5, behind LSU.
I've read a few different things this morning saying LSU should be ahead of us. And that we 'have a shot' if we win out. Now all of the sudden the narrative changed and we're no longer in @12-0 but may be able to squeak in. 🙄
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="et" dir="ltr">New eye test top 5:<br>1) Alabama<br>2) Ohio State<br>3) Clemson<br>4) LSU<br>5) Michigan</p>— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/1051303379421618178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yep. Ian Book now ranks No. 1 nationally in completion percentage (75.2). He’s now 12th in passer efficiency rating. <a href="https://t.co/Fgen4555qu">https://t.co/Fgen4555qu</a></p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1051453828699222022?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After a CHAOTIC WEEK 7 of CFB my new top 4. <br>1-<a href="https://twitter.com/AlabamaFTBL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlabamaFTBL</a> <br>2-<a href="https://twitter.com/OhioStateFB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OhioStateFB</a> <br>3-<a href="https://twitter.com/ClemsonFB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ClemsonFB</a> <br>4-<a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NDFootball</a> <br>Next 2<a href="https://twitter.com/LSUfootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LSUfootball</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/UMichFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UMichFootball</a></p>— Kirk Herbstreit (@KirkHerbstreit) <a href="https://twitter.com/KirkHerbstreit/status/1051319644747943937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="et" dir="ltr">New eye test top 5:<br>1) Alabama<br>2) Ohio State<br>3) Clemson<br>4) LSU<br>5) Michigan</p>— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/1051303379421618178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This is absurd. We are undefeated with wins over 3 ranked opponents. Not only that, we beat Michigan. Maybe they are playing better and better each week but the fact remains they lost to us and are not undefeated. If a 12-0 ND team doesn't make the playoffs ahead of 1 loss teams and a team they beat then they likely never will.
 

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Based on who LSU has beat...they should be fifth right behind ND...right?

Maybe, probably, but I am referring to the end of the season. I think the SEC kills each other. I think Oklahoma may get back in it by the end of the season, 1 SEC team, Clemson, UM/OSU, Irish. Still lots of football left.
 

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Oregon at #11 in the Coaches Poll have had their toughest games.

The Oregon scoring offense averages 39.2 points per game (against FBS competition - 5 games) and 34.3 against three conference foes (Stanford. Cal, Washington).

(All stats quoted are against FBS opponents only unless noted)
Of the six remaining games, they play the 10th (Arizona - 28.3), 11th (UCLA - 31.5) and 12th (Oregon St - 51.4) scoring defenses in conference.

Washington State has given up 39 (USC), 24 (Utah) and 37 pts (Oregon State) in their last three games.

Arizona State - Eliminating their FCS game and the one with Oregon State which has a terrible defense, their scoring offense averages less than 20 pts per game (Michigan State, San Diego State, Washington, Colorado).

Utah averages 26.0 points per game but the offense has come alive with the last two wins (40 pts against Stanford, 42 points against Arizona). Subtract those last two games from their scoring offense average.... The Utes were beaten by Washington 21-7. Their defense is the best in the Pac-12 surrendering only 20.0 pts per game in four conference games. I doubt they can stay with Oregon.

We may be talking about the Ducks going 11-1 and in the Pac-12 championship game in a rematch against Utah or against USC as the South division champion with Oregon's only loss in OT to Stanford due to their mistakes. They should be undefeated.
 
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Michigan #6! That means we have the best win out of anyone besides Florida over LSU.
 

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I am in a group text with a Michigan fan, USC fan, and an Iowa fan.... they all 3 think UM will jump ND when the initial CFP picks come out. Thier reasoning is Shea Patterson and UM were just getting started and the CFP people will know UM is a better team. I know having beat the #6 team in the country is something that looks great on paper... but I hate Michigan fans so they just need to lose every game. I can see them losing to Penn State and OSU... and they play their instate rival MSU... would be great to see them lose all 3.
 
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I am in a group text with a Michigan fan, USC fan, and an Iowa fan.... they all 3 think UM will jump ND when the initial CFP picks come out. Thier reasoning is Shea Patterson and UM were just getting started and the CFP people will know UM is a better team. I know having beat the #6 team in the country is something that looks great on paper... but I hate Michigan fans so they just need to lose every game. I can see them losing to Penn State and OSU... and they play their instate rival MSU... would be great to see them lose all 3.

I completely agree with this. We beat Michigan and are still hearing about how great they are. They beat a mediocre Wisconsin team. That’s all they’ve done. I hope they get curb stopped by every opponent they play for the rest of eternity. Period.
 
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