2016 Presidential Horse Race

[Polish Leppy 22]

Not sure your post has anything to do with what you hilighted in my post.

The headline read eliminating "immigrant detention." He has merit and brings up a point in putting our own people in prison at record rates.

Now read my responding question again.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Maybe build a huge wall across private property, native land, across rivers, mountains and all paid for by Mexico... There's some logic...

Reagan believed in amnesty, btw...

Private property that belongs to us, land that belongs to us...yeah I'm ok with exploring that option.

Mexico paying for it? Doubtful.

 

[woolybug25]

Private property that belongs to us, land that belongs to us...yeah I'm ok with exploring that option.

Mexico paying for it? Doubtful.

No... Private property owned by private citizens. Native land owned by native people.

In one breath you dog the costs of Bernie, but in another support a completely ridiculous idea of building an incredibly expensive wall. One they'll just tunnel under, btw.

 

[kmoose]

It is likely to be a cost savings if it means we can building prisons to keep up with the steadily growing demand.

So instead of spending money that we don't have on new prisons, we will be spending money we don't have on operating them?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

No... Private property owned by private citizens. Native land owned by native people.

In one breath you dog the costs of Bernie, but in another support a completely ridiculous idea of building an incredibly expensive wall. One they'll just tunnel under, btw.

1) Are you saying the US legally CANNOT build a wall/ fence on their border if they wanted to?

2) Read again: I said I'd like to explore the option.

3) What will cost more in the long run: illegal immigration or building a wall? Please enlighten me.

 

[GoIrish41]

So instead of spending money that we don't have on new prisons, we will be spending money we don't have on operating them?

His crime proposals I've heard him talk about have been to end the war on drugs and let nonviolent offenders out of jail. If anything we have a lot of empty prisons for when the zombie apocalypse happens. Prison worked well in the Walking Dead for nearly two full seasons. it's just good solid planning.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

1) Are you saying the US legally CANNOT build a wall/ fence on their border if they wanted to?

2) Read again: I said I'd like to explore the option.

3) What will cost more in the long run: illegal immigration or building a wall? Please enlighten me.

It's worth noting how fiscally detrimental Trump's immigration stance is.

He wants to build a fence that would cost billions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...9a619668-2b0c-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.ht

He wants to deport all illegal immigrants. That would cost around half a trillion dollars. It would also drop real GDP by $1.6 trillion and 5.7%.

Deporting 11 Million People Could Cost $400-600 Billion, Study Finds - The Atlantic

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

It's worth noting how fiscally detrimental Trump's immigration stance is.

He wants to build a fence that would cost billions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...9a619668-2b0c-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.ht

He wants to deport all illegal immigrants. That would cost around half a trillion dollars. It would also drop real GDP by $1.6 trillion and 5.7%.

Deporting 11 Million People Could Cost $400-600 Billion, Study Finds - The Atlantic

I am not Trump's spokesperson. He's not my first choice. I said it was worth exploring. What's been happening since the mid 80's can't continue.

The GDP dropping argument is one of the dumbest I've ever seen you make on here. As for the rest: are you now fiscally conservative? You're appalled by Trump's immigration ideas and the costs, but Bernie Sanders' plans don't bother you at all? lol

 

[woolybug25]

1) Are you saying the US legally CANNOT build a wall/ fence on their border if they wanted to?

2) Read again: I said I'd like to explore the option.

3) What will cost more in the long run: illegal immigration or building a wall? Please enlighten me.

1) I didn't say legally, there is eminent domain. Some of it would involve essentially taking land from people against their will, including native Americans. The other side is that is quite difficult to build a 1900 mile walk through lakes, rivers and mountains. Especially when the worst part of illegal immigration (human trafficking, drugs, etc) are happening through tunnels anyway.

2) Why don't you do that first.

3) How do you know? I honestly don't believe that you have done any research on the true costs of immigration and you readily admit that you have no idea what a wall like this would cost or be feasible.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

I am not Trump's spokesperson. He's not my first choice. I said it was worth exploring. What's been happening since the mid 80's can't continue.

The GDP dropping argument is one of the dumbest I've ever seen you make on here. As for the rest: are you now fiscally conservative? You're appalled by Trump's immigration ideas and the costs, but Bernie Sanders' plans don't bother you at all? lol

Just providing more information for you to "explore."

 

[ACamp1900]

This Trump speech... Er- I mean Republican debate... Is comical right now, Trumps a freakin jackass.

 

[In Lou I Trust]

These debates involve way too much Trump bashing. Shit's getting old. Don't tell me why you hate Trump, tell me why I should vote for you.

 

[ACamp1900]

I still say if the GOP were smart(hehe) they'd push a Kasich/Rubio ticket down the throats of the primary voters... That could be a capable and winning ticket in the Nationals... But,.... Trump, Carson, Carli... Yes!... Smh, I so hate both parties these days

 

[wizards8507]

This is embarrassing. Rubio and Fiorina are the only adults on this stage.

 

[Corry]

This is embarrassing. Rubio and Fiorina are the only adults on this stage.

What happened to #StandwithRand? 😄

 

[ACamp1900]

What happened to #StandwithRand? 😄

In fairness to Paul he's been able to say what? Two words? Ha

 

[ACamp1900]

It seems like the only reason the female moderator is even there is to set up and insist answer on preceived 'gotcha!' questions...

 

[wizards8507]

What happened to #StandwithRand? 😄

I love him but he's not doing very well.

 

[GATTACA!]

It seems like the only reason the female moderator is even there is to set up and insist answer on preceived 'gotcha!' questions...

Christie answered her like 4 times lol

 

[ACamp1900]

Damn, not a Carli fan but THAT was a brilliant answer there...

 

[GATTACA!]

Damn, not a Carli fan but THAT was a brilliant answer there...

She killing it tonight. She scored tons of points with that answer and her last one when she got choked up about planned parenthood. Good shit.

 

[wizards8507]

I want Trump to stay in the race as long as possible just to make faces when Jeb Bush speaks.

 

[ACamp1900]

Christie answered her like 4 times lol

She was clearly fishing for a 'Christie says he will shut down government to kill women' headline, also loved the question, 'what's wrong speaking Spanish' question, so clearly coming at this with a paint brush

 

[wizards8507]

Rubio-Fiorina would get 60% of the vote.

Carson is bad at this.

 

[GATTACA!]

Rubio-Fiorina would get 60% of the vote.

Carson is bad at this.

Someone needs to slip Carson some caffeine pills or something

But yeah he can say goodbye to 2nd place

 

[wizards8507]

Rand or Cruz need to speak up. I'm pretty sure they're the only ones who understand the jurisdiction clause of the 14th Amendment.

Edit: Thanks Rand.

 

[ACamp1900]

She killing it tonight. She scored tons of points with that answer and her last one when she got choked up about planned parenthood. Good shit.

Inclined to agree, she's been impressive tonight, tho her demand of Trump a minute ago was kind of silly...

 

[wizards8507]

Lmao Chris Christie is so #ChrisChristie.

 

[Sureal]

At work and can't watch the debate...who bombed and who did well?

 

[ACamp1900]

IMO... I like Carson personally, but he really isn't good at this debate thing, he's looked bad... Trump hasn't been the best, typical stupid attacks and insults...

Carli, Rubio, Kasich all seemed strong IMO... Really surprised by CF as I'm not that big on her...

Hope that helps Sureal.