2016 Presidential Horse Race

[GoIrish41]

Is Polish Leppy missing or hiding? Where is he to defend Donald and the fact that he's taking taking big money and naming big donors to his financial team? Surely, he can also defend Trump's 2nd Amendment comment too.

I was hoping to see Moose diagram Trump's sentences to convince us all that we are yet again assigning meaning to Trump's words that he did not mean.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Oh give me a break. Trump is a hack, an idiot, and a clown, but he wasn't ACTUALLY advocating assassination.

Even joking about it is completely unpresidential. The republicans should seriously try to dump him and go with someone else. He's not fit.

 

[GoIrish41]

Oh give me a break. Trump is a hack, an idiot, and a clown, but he wasn't ACTUALLY advocating assassination.

What was he doing then? How many times can he say something that sounds like something other than he was saying ... rapist Mexicans, judges objectivity tied to nationality, bleeding from wherever, ban all Muslims, not honoring NATO commitments? The guy shoots from the hip as he freelances speeches. Isn't he more likely to say what's on his mind when he does that? Idiot, hack, clown? Yes. But he is also speaking his mind. That is supposed to be one of his endearing qualities if you read the polls. Weird that he can be misunderstood so often and by so many .... Including those in his own party.

 

[yankeehater]

Seriously? Don't be surprised when dad doesn't get pissed at you for not mowing the grass at the same moment your brother pulls into the driveway with a big dent in the fender of mom's new car. Blame the media if you wish but these two stories are not close to equal. Some things just attract more attention than others. Suggesting NRA people may take out the Democratic nominee for president is one of those things.

I bet the media would be all over it if a KKK member was seated directly behind Trump at one of his rallies.

 

[wizards8507]

Even joking about it is completely unpresidential. The republicans should seriously try to dump him and go with someone else. He's not fit.

I agree.

What was he doing then?

Being an assbag? Making a completely inappropriate joke?

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I bet the media would be all over it if a KKK member was seated directly behind Trump at one of his rallies.

Trump's been endorsed by the KKK and David Duke said he'd be his biggest supporter in congress. They're behind him and pushing for him to be elected.

 

[GoIrish41]

I bet the media would be all over it if a KKK member was seated directly behind Trump at one of his rallies.

Not if Hillary was suggesting on the same day that her supporters might shoot Trump.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Amen. Orthodox Catholics have always been politically homeless in this country, and while we seem to have successfully assimilated over the last several decades, the current state of the American Church and its institutions makes clear that it wasn't worth the price of admission. I'd like to see my co-religionists be Catholics first, and let their politics flow from there. Much better for the soul, and for avoiding the perils of partisanship.

EJ Dionne published a book in 2013 titled "Our Divided Political Heart" which claims there are two real divides in American politics today-- Left/Right, which deals with economic inequality and how to best address it, and Individualist/ Communitarian. The first axis corresponds roughly with solidarity/subsidiarity, so as long as one is orthodox and doesn't really drink the Kool-Aid from either extreme, Catholics in good standing can find themselves all across the spectrum. But on the second axis, I don't see much wiggle room; radical individualists are regularly on the cutting edge of evil these days.

So I guess: (1) be a Catholic first; (2) a communitarian second; and (3) the rest should work itself out.

Edit: If you're not Catholic, convert, then go to Step (1) :smilewink

Couldn't agree more. The only hitch is that the communitarian rhetoric is often utilized by groups who have many things in common with Catholics in theory, but are openly hostile to any non-materialistic philosophies that says man has a end/function/purpose that is not infinitely malleable and that he must obey limits beyond his individual or the collective will. They often work to undermine the authority of the Church and its place in the public square.

While Catholics have the ability to coexist in a pluralistic society, they can't embrace agendas that disregard God's laws or would declare him irrelevant. In other words, In a diverse society Catholics are supposed to offer the Catholix perspective, not to simply embrace the pluralistic perspective while keeping their faiths private.

So sometimes I end up subverting the communitarian instinct for the party that doesn't so blatantly cast off natural law.

 

[Bubbles]

He was clearly joking....you would need a silver bullet, dipped in garlic and etched with the Cross to take down Hillary.

 

[johnnycando]

Tough to tell what exactly he means when he goes off on a quick tangent....honestly I interpreted this as: "if Hillary is elected, your 2nd amendment and your guns will be gone, although maybe you gun-owners will use them and fight back. "

I've seen tweets out there about he's calling on someone to assassinate Hillary. That's not how I heard it at all, but who the hell knows with Trump.

This is how I took it, and I agree.

And I will.

Light yer ass up, bitches!

 

[woolybug25]

The Republican Party has almost got me on several occasions. I typically agree with their economic platform, completely disagree with their environmental platform and am pretty split with them on social issues. Mainly, it's the crazy bible thumping stuff that has always tipped my personal pendulum to the democrats. But how did they get this warped? I mean, it's pretty pathetic that Donald freaking Trump is the Republican nominee. It would be comical if it weren't so sad.

Ironically with my "bible thumping" comment, I would actually be pretty open to a Catholic led Republican. Most of my social opinions fall with them and I feel like they could put a normal human being I place for the nominee. One that was fiscally responsible, community focused, worked towards environmental stability and worked towards smaller government led by states rights. But that party frankly doesn't exist nor will it.

 

[johnnycando]

The Republican Party has almost got me on several occasions. I typically agree with their economic platform, completely disagree with their environmental platform and am pretty split with them on social issues. Mainly, it's the crazy bible thumping stuff that has always tipped my personal pendulum to the democrats. But how did they get this warped? I mean, it's pretty pathetic that Donald freaking Trump is the Republican nominee. It would be comical if it weren't so sad.

Ironically with my "bible thumping" comment, I would actually be pretty open to a Catholic led Republican. Most of my social opinions fall with them and I feel like they could put a normal human being I place for the nominee. One that was fiscally responsible, community focused, worked towards environmental stability and worked towards smaller government led by states rights. But that party frankly doesn't exist nor will it.

You're talking about a Realistican.

They ride unicorns like the Amish drive horse drawn carts.

'Merica.

 

[NDinL.A.]

I bet the media would be all over it if a KKK member was seated directly behind Trump at one of his rallies.

Actually, that was on CNN a lot his afternoon. Unfortunately your boy yet again decided to say something #reckless and unbelievably stupid, so he dominated the news cycle once again. It's his fault for being such an idiot.

Also, a white supremacist was a delegate for Trump in CA. But Trump and his amateur campaign do so many other stupid things that the media could barely cover it. That should have been a bigger story as well.

And dude, linking to Breitbart is akin to, if not worse than, linking to the Huff Post or even Occupy Democrats.com. They've been in bed with Trump from the jump, and are so biased it's a joke (and any Republican that is a reader of Breitbart saying that the media is biased against the right is also a joke - FOX and Breitbart are just as bad as the left-leaning media sites and channels).

 

[yankeehater]

Actually, that was on CNN a lot his afternoon. Unfortunately your boy yet again decided to say something #reckless and unbelievably stupid, so he dominated the news cycle once again. It's his fault for being such an idiot.

Also, a white supremacist was a delegate for Trump in CA. But Trump and his amateur campaign do so many other stupid things that the media could barely cover it. That should have been a bigger story as well.

And dude, linking to Breitbart is akin to, if not worse than, linking to the Huff Post or even Occupy Democrats.com. They've been in bed with Trump from the jump, and are so biased it's a joke (and any Republican that is a reader of Breitbart saying that the media is biased against the right is also a joke - FOX and Breitbart are just as bad as the left-leaning media sites and channels).

I have mentioned several times I did not vote for Trump in the California primary even though we knew he had already locked up the nomination.

I quoted from Breitbart because none of the "main stream", which we know are a joke, even wrote about the story. I love how the media made sure everyone was aware that some white supremacist supported Trump.

I was thinking about sitting out the Presidential election, but this hypocritical, one-sided media bullshit is seriously pushing me Trump's way. I know it has been liberal for a long time, but when a writer for NY Times pens an article they publish that states the media's duty is to destroy one candidate (Trump) then I cannot sit silently when the other candidate is every bit the PoS.

 

[connor_in]

He was clearly joking....you would need a silver bullet, dipped in garlic and etched with the Cross to take down Hillary.

Something like this?

 

[NorthDakota]

This is how I took it, and I agree.

And I will.

Light yer ass up, bitches!

I'll be there with you.

 

[phgreek]

What do you think he meant by the statement? How could "2nd Amendment people" stop her from getting her Supreme Court appointments?

...what do special interests with endless cash usually do? Not one, but I'll go crazy and venture a guess or two. ...Maybe they pay off politicians to block legislation or appointees...dig up dirt on opposition, or their suggested appointees, and all other manner of trashy, underhanded shit to get their way.

Trump isn't "presidential"...NEWS FUCKING FLASH THERE...Can you tell me who is this cycle?

 

[woolybug25]

I thought this article did a good job outlying the half-speak and innuendo tactics of Donald Trump and how those tactics allow him to avoid blame and hide from his comments.

Many people are saying -- that Trump drives conspiracies and gossip - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

...what do special interests with endless cash usually do? Not one, but I'll go crazy and venture a guess or two. ...Maybe they pay off politicians to block legislation or appointees...dig up dirt on opposition, or their suggested appointees, and all other manner of trashy, underhanded shit to get their way.

Trump isn't "presidential"...NEWS FUCKING FLASH THERE...Can you tell me who is this cycle?

Oh. So that's what he meant. Thanks.

 

[Irish#1]

Not a Trump supporter as I've mentioned before, but I think his 2nd amendment remark was anything but calling for HRC to be killed. I took it to be more about the lobbyist and the NRA with their clout stepping up to beat HRC. JMO.

 

[GoIrish41]

Not a Trump supporter as I've mentioned before, but I think his 2nd amendment remark was anything but calling for HRC to be killed. I took it to be more about the lobbyist and the NRA with their clout stepping up to beat HRC. JMO.

I disagree. While what he said may have been meant as a joke (an extremely poor one given the mass shootings and gun violence in this country), it clearly IMO was meant to mean "someone could stop Hillary's nominees with a "2nd Amendment solution." It only takes one moron to take him seriously.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Is Polish Leppy missing or hiding? Where is he to defend Donald and the fact that he's taking taking big money and naming big donors to his financial team? Surely, he can also defend Trump's 2nd Amendment comment too.
Ps: Lep neg repped me for saying not to believe that Trump wasn't being corrupted by big money.

I neg repped you because it seems you're incapable of coming up with your own material. Trump is a clown but coming out and proclaiming he is "unfit" to be president is just regurgitating lines from the White House.

And since I'm not Trump's spokesperson I'll leave the defending of Trump to others on this board.

 

[woolybug25]

I neg repped you because it seems you're incapable of coming up with your own material. Trump is a clown but coming out and proclaiming he is "unfit" to be president is just regurgitating lines from the White House.

And since I'm not Trump's spokesperson I'll leave the defending of Trump to others on this board.

I rep'd him to offset your neg. What a bunch of weak shit, neg repping someone simply because you don't like their opinion. If everyone else did that your board would be bright red. Pathetic.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I rep'd him to offset your neg. What a bunch of weak shit, neg repping someone simply because you don't like their opinion. If everyone else did that your board would be bright red. Pathetic.

If I copied lines from the Trump campaign spokesperson and posted them here as original thought, I'd absolutely deserve a bright red board.

 

[Irish#1]

I disagree. While what he said may have been meant as a joke (an extremely poor one given the mass shootings and gun violence in this country), it clearly IMO was meant to mean "someone could stop Hillary's nominees with a "2nd Amendment solution." It only takes one moron to take him seriously.

I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!

 

[Corry]

If I copied lines from the Trump campaign spokesperson and posted them here as original thought, I'd absolutely deserve a bright red board.

Calm down Ivanka.

 

[woolybug25]

If I copied lines from the Trump campaign spokesperson and posted them here as original thought, I'd absolutely deserve a bright red board.

You have done that. lol

You act like you're some ambassador of free thought or something. Laughable. All I ever see from you is reworded republican platform narratives. You aren't on here broadening anyone's horizons. So by your own words, people should be neg bombing you on the reg. But they don't... Because most people have restraint.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

The Republican Party has almost got me on several occasions. I typically agree with their economic platform, completely disagree with their environmental platform and am pretty split with them on social issues. Mainly, it's the crazy bible thumping stuff that has always tipped my personal pendulum to the democrats. But how did they get this warped? I mean, it's pretty pathetic that Donald freaking Trump is the Republican nominee. It would be comical if it weren't so sad.

Ironically with my "bible thumping" comment, I would actually be pretty open to a Catholic led Republican. Most of my social opinions fall with them and I feel like they could put a normal human being I place for the nominee. One that was fiscally responsible, community focused, worked towards environmental stability and worked towards smaller government led by states rights. But that party frankly doesn't exist nor will it.

I'd vote for Pope Francis in a heart beat.

 

[kmoose]

I disagree. While what he said may have been meant as a joke (an extremely poor one given the mass shootings and gun violence in this country), it clearly IMO was meant to mean "someone could stop Hillary's nominees with a "2nd Amendment solution." It only takes one moron to take him seriously.

You should stick to stuff that is more in your wheelhouse, like this:

Black Lives Matter Accuse Pokemon Go of Inherent Racism. No, Seriously. - Santa Monica Observer

 

[zelezo vlk]

I'd vote for Pope Francis in a heart beat.

A bit old, not a citizen, and people don't really like Catholic politicians who take their faith seriously.

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