2014 Spring Practice Thread

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kelly says Amir Carlisle is “going through the process of finding a home” on the field while moving from running back to receiver.</p>— Blue and Gold News (@BGInews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGInews/statuses/447424133576409088">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BK - Amir Carlisle is getting into a consistent role at WR - thats going to be really good for him.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/statuses/447424277344579584">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brian Kelly when asked if he would run a two-quarterback system: “I’d do anything to win.” Adds that the ideal number is one.</p>— Blue and Gold News (@BGInews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGInews/statuses/447424439068545024">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kelly says Andrew Trumbetti has “a great motor … and pretty good football instincts.” Trumbetti saw time with first-team defense today.</p>— Blue and Gold News (@BGInews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGInews/statuses/447424629804519424">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kelly on <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewTrumbetti">@AndrewTrumbetti</a> “He’s got a great motor” in citing why he was with the No. 1’s in the nickel.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/447424659600850944">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kelly says John Turner has been given a great opportunity. He’ll only be surprised if he doesn’t take advantage of it. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a></p>— Blue and Gold News (@BGInews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGInews/statuses/447424975390388225">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kelly on Max Redfield’s talent, “crazy, crazy, crazy ability” Says his knowledge base was “zero” before the spring started.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/447425264742445056">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kelly said Max Redfield keeps getting better. Expects him to be starting against Rice on Aug. 30. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a></p>— Blue and Gold News (@BGInews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGInews/statuses/447425267347103744">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>“I just want more out of all of them,” Kelly on the receivers. One guy who has stood out at the position: Corey Robinson.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/447425433370259456">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brian Kelly says he's pleased with Corey Robinson most of all receivers. Says Chris Brown, CJ Prosise still need work.</p>— Rachel Terlep (@eTruth_Irish) <a href="https://twitter.com/eTruth_Irish/statuses/447425452483694592">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brian Kelly on Golson/Zaire dynamic: "They like each other, they get along very well. But Everett's not going to teach him the playbook."</p>— Rachel Terlep (@eTruth_Irish) <a href="https://twitter.com/eTruth_Irish/statuses/447425809347665920">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kelly says QB dynamic isn’t one where Everett is teaching Malik the playbook, indicates there’s a competitive edge between both.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/447425882445971456">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kelly said he’s never seen Christian Lombard’s injury in 24 years. They had to pin his wrist after he fell on it in practice. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a></p>— Blue and Gold News (@BGInews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGInews/statuses/447426131600211968">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Both Christian Lombard and Will Mahone are out 4-6 weeks with their respective injuries, Kelly said.</p>— Blue and Gold News (@BGInews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGInews/statuses/447426272092631040">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kelly: “It would be hard pressed to find a guy to unseat Lombard."</p>— Blue and Gold News (@BGInews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGInews/statuses/447426375427702784">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>“Power. Power. Powerful.” Kelly on Greg Bryant’s addition to the offense. “This kid’s powerful. He’s a powerful back."</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/447426511360892928">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> RB adjectives via Brian Kelly: Tarean Folston is "shifty." Cam McDaniel is "gutsy" and Greg Bryant is "power, power, powerful."</p>— Dan Murphy (@BGI_DanMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_DanMurphy/statuses/447426672980008960">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>“Power. Power. Powerful.” Kelly on Greg Bryant’s addition to the offense. “This kid’s powerful. He’s a powerful back."</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/447426511360892928">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> RB adjectives via Brian Kelly: Tarean Folston is "shifty." Cam McDaniel is "gutsy" and Greg Bryant is "power, power, powerful."</p>— Dan Murphy (@BGI_DanMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_DanMurphy/statuses/447426672980008960">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BK - we have been working the fundamentals of special teams. Not so much the skilled guys who return.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/statuses/447427048575741953">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>That's it from Brian Kelly. We'll be back Wednesday, March 26, for post-practice interviews with coordinators (!).</p>— Rachel Terlep (@eTruth_Irish) <a href="https://twitter.com/eTruth_Irish/statuses/447427643126730752">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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During the last portion of the video, I couldn't even watch the players because I was mesmerized by Van Gorder's mustache and hair. I could not look away.
 

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So - and I can't really remember the spring practice videos from last year - but our corners as a whole look a TON more physical. I like it.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brian Kelly on Golson/Zaire dynamic: "They like each other, they get along very well. But Everett's not going to teach him the playbook."</p>— Rachel Terlep (@eTruth_Irish) <a href="https://twitter.com/eTruth_Irish/statuses/447425809347665920">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kelly says QB dynamic isn’t one where Everett is teaching Malik the playbook, indicates there’s a competitive edge between both.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/447425882445971456">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I love the battle! It's so healthy for our program.

At the end of the day, I still believe it's Golson's to lose, given his experience.

However, Zaire is hitting the field hard, and his running ability as a secondary weapon has been impressive (just in the short clips).

He will definitely see time this year.

Hopefully, he will keep up the mentality that he expresses in the interview below throughout the season. It's going to be a challenge, but he needs to be ready for whatever the moment might throw at him. The occasion might arise when we are really going to need him THIS year.

Probably the most encouraged I have been at the quarterback spot in a very long time . . .

<iframe src="//player.vimeo.com/video/89751935?color=ffcc12" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/89751935">Zaire confident he can start</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/irishillustrated">Irish Illustrated</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
 

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From what I saw this weekend. Golson is the clear #1 but I have no worries if Zaire was the starter. They bring different things to the table and play different games. Both are talented at what they do and ND is in great hands
 
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I love the battle! It's so healthy for our program.

At the end of the day, I still believe it's Golson's to lose, given his experience.

However, Zaire is hitting the field hard, and his running ability as a secondary weapon has been impressive (just in the short clips).

He will definitely see time this year.

Hopefully, he will keep up the mentality that he expresses in the interview below throughout the season. It's going to be a challenge, but he needs to be ready for whatever the moment might throw at him. The occasion might arise when we are really going to need him THIS year.

Probably the most encouraged I have been at the quarterback spot in a very long time . . .

<iframe src="//player.vimeo.com/video/89751935?color=ffcc12" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/89751935">Zaire confident he can start</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/irishillustrated">Irish Illustrated</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

He's not starting, but I love him and he'll get PT this year and be a real player for us one day.
 
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From what I saw this weekend. Golson is the clear #1 but I have no worries if Zaire was the starter. They bring different things to the table and play different games. Both are talented at what they do and ND is in great hands

What do you mean? I'm hoping Golson can do it all. Pre-snap reads, strong arm, mobile, accurate. What does Zaire have that Golson doesn't?
 

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What do you mean? I'm hoping Golson can do it all. Pre-snap reads, strong arm, mobile, accurate. What does Zaire have that Golson doesn't?

Zaire's a better runner than Golson. Golson has a better arm than Zaire.

Just different skill sets, but both read option/BK spread type QBs.
 

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Again... we are in big trouble if one of them goes down for the year. Simple as that. By "We" I literally mean us as fans. EG could go down and MZ closes the season great. As fans we will shit our pants every play that whoever is the QB doesn't get hurt!

Kizer needs to come in and compete... please
 

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What do you mean? I'm hoping Golson can do it all. Pre-snap reads, strong arm, mobile, accurate. What does Zaire have that Golson doesn't?

Malik is a read option QB first then a passer second. Thats not saying he isnt a good passer. The kid ran wishbone/triple option/read option in high school and he knows how to run option and where to take angles and the finer points of pulling the ball or giving it up. That alone makes him more explosive as a runner. His experience and knowledge makes him trust his read and makes a play and I would be shocked if he even thought about pulling it out/giving it up....its just a reaction. Golson on the other hand threw for 11,000 yards in high school, so there wasnt a ton of read option. He is more than athletic to run read plays, but its not natural to him. Im going out on a limb and leaving my homerish side out, but if theres a better arm in the country Id love to see it. Everything from his release points to him just spinning the ball is natural. Malik can spin it but its not in the same league. Malik actually surprised me with his accuracy in the redzone, he has enough strength to fit the ball in tight windows. Does he see it as quick as Golson? No, but thats just one of Golsons strengths.

Malik would be an ideal QB for what ohio st, and auburn run. He is a kid that can take a beating and deliever punishment in the run game, but is far more advanced at this point than Miller or Marshall. ND can run something like osu/aub with the backs and line they have if Zaire was the QB and I think itd be pretty damn successful. Golson fits what Kelly has ran for years. He can get the ball vertical, while adding that ability to get outside of the pocket and create plays or roll out to overload the defense.

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Malik and 99% of college qbs are not making that throw. Its not a bad thing by any means, its just how talented of a QB golson is at slinging the rock. Golson isnt going run over a safety and then outrun a cornerback for a 50 yard TD like Malik could. Its just different styles of play.
 
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Malik is a read option QB first then a passer second. Thats not saying he isnt a good passer. The kid ran wishbone/triple option/read option in high school and he knows how to run option and where to take angles and the finer points of pulling the ball or giving it up. That alone makes him more explosive as a runner. His experience and knowledge makes him trust his read and makes a play and I would be shocked if he even thought about pulling it out/giving it up....its just a reaction. Golson on the other hand threw for 11,000 yards in high school, so there wasnt a ton of read option. He is more than athletic to run read plays, but its not natural to him. Im going out on a limb and leaving my homerish side out, but if theres a better arm in the country Id love to see it. Everything from his release points to him just spinning the ball is natural. Malik can spin it but its not in the same league. Malik actually surprised me with his accuracy in the redzone, he has enough strength to fit the ball in tight windows. Does he see it as quick as Golson? No, but thats just one of Golsons strengths.

Malik would be an ideal QB for what ohio st, and auburn run. He is a kid that can take a beating and deliever punishment in the run game, but is far more advanced at this point than Miller or Marshall. ND can run something like osu/aub with the backs and line they have if Zaire was the QB and I think itd be pretty damn successful. Golson fits what Kelly has ran for years. He can get the ball vertical, while adding that ability to get outside of the pocket and create plays or roll out to overload the defense.

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Malik and 99% of college qbs are not making that throw. Its not a bad thing by any means, its just how talented of a QB golson is at slinging the rock. Golson isnt going run over a safety and then outrun a cornerback for a 50 yard TD like Malik could. Its just different styles of play.

Great explanation, thanks.
 
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Malik is a read option QB first then a passer second. Thats not saying he isnt a good passer. The kid ran wishbone/triple option/read option in high school and he knows how to run option and where to take angles and the finer points of pulling the ball or giving it up. That alone makes him more explosive as a runner. His experience and knowledge makes him trust his read and makes a play and I would be shocked if he even thought about pulling it out/giving it up....its just a reaction. Golson on the other hand threw for 11,000 yards in high school, so there wasnt a ton of read option. He is more than athletic to run read plays, but its not natural to him. Im going out on a limb and leaving my homerish side out, but if theres a better arm in the country Id love to see it. Everything from his release points to him just spinning the ball is natural. Malik can spin it but its not in the same league. Malik actually surprised me with his accuracy in the redzone, he has enough strength to fit the ball in tight windows. Does he see it as quick as Golson? No, but thats just one of Golsons strengths.

Malik would be an ideal QB for what ohio st, and auburn run. He is a kid that can take a beating and deliever punishment in the run game, but is far more advanced at this point than Miller or Marshall. ND can run something like osu/aub with the backs and line they have if Zaire was the QB and I think itd be pretty damn successful. Golson fits what Kelly has ran for years. He can get the ball vertical, while adding that ability to get outside of the pocket and create plays or roll out to overload the defense.

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Malik and 99% of college qbs are not making that throw. Its not a bad thing by any means, its just how talented of a QB golson is at slinging the rock. Golson isnt going run over a safety and then outrun a cornerback for a 50 yard TD like Malik could. Its just different styles of play.

Thanks for the information!

1) I think you meant more than athletic enough, is that correct? I am not sure that I like Golson's handling of the ball on read options; potential problem?

2) I wondered about that! Do you think Zaire is that good?

3) How fast do you think Zaire really is?

Thanks.
 

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What I see on EG vs' MZ is that Everett uses his feet to scramble more in the backfield, Mailik will use his feet for north and south.
 

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Malik is a superior , a simply terrific runner. He is far better then Golson running the ball. He is bigger, faster and a natural runner. I cannot recall seeing a QB use a sweeter looking stiff arm then Zaire, he is another running back in the backfield and a good one at that!

Golson though is simply a "natural"---he is by far the better passer, the young man can make every throw , he has a golden arm an NFL quality arm.

We are in good shape at QB at this point that much is clear.
 
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