'19 IN LB Jack Kiser (Notre Dame Man)

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No one is saying that he is a guaranteed stud or that he'll even be a starter. But sometimes I think we forget that we cheer for a team that is ALWAYS under the 85 player limit (self imposed sanctions) and us, as fans, get way too picky.

The kid has offers from schools I trust defensively in Notre Dame, MSU, and Iowa. I'm gonna trust Prister's evaluation over those schools? Not a chance.

I'm also tired of the staff slow playing recruits in the past and just having it bite them in the behind when its all said and done. Build a solid foundation (Kiser) and go after the bigger fish after.

This... but next year, it's shoot for the stars because the cupboard is stocked.

Speaking of which, hey staff offer this guy now!

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I can't believe that people are mad about taking a very athletic high upside kid. Every year in the fall, people are saying that we gotta fill out the class and should do so with versatile athletes. That's exactly what Kiser is, and he got the stamp of approval from his position coach IN PERSON. Even if he doesn't became the next Drue, this is still a good take.
 

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In case anyone is interested in a slightly different evaluation of his play:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GIFs! <a href="https://twitter.com/jamieuyeyama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jamieuyeyama</a> takes a look at new <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> LB commit Jack Kiser. <a href="https://t.co/ETIILobINq">https://t.co/ETIILobINq</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1006678744898170881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I’m not a film guru and know little of Indiana high school ball.
I do, though, trust the staff and have grown tired of watching us slow play kids who should be naturals at Notre Dame to chase higher-star reach kids from California.
So welcome aboard, Jack.
 

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I LIKE THE ADDITION, welcome Jack.
Ignore the haters, prove the haters (Koon) wrong. :)
 
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her sister runs cross country at University of Louisville. Talented family by the looks of it
 
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I LIKE THE ADDITION, welcome Jack.
Ignore the haters, prove the haters (Koon) wrong. :)

I can never be proven wrong. If there's signs of me being wrong, I just move the goal post. I'm an elite Hedger.

Come on, you know that by now.
 

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Judging the overall level of competition in relation to a prospect is one thing, but making generalizations based on previous recruits and their teams probably doesn't really apply.

First, Barajas had trouble staying motivated at ND. He didn't put the work in to get himself in position to play. His story could apply to any player, but that's different than saying "Josh wasn't good so this kid probably won't be because they both played small Indiana football." Josh wasn't good because he didn't develop. That doesn't mean another small-school player will suffer the same fate.

Second, saying a small team would lose to a big team doesn't mean much, because there are always competitive outliers. Some 6A teams are garbage, and they're only 6A because of school population. Some 1A teams are powerhouses because they have small populations, but a high percentage of kids that attend specifically for football.

Yep. Josh came to ND overweight and unmotivated. That's a Josh issue, not an Indiana (small school) football issue.
 

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Kiser older brother played at Illinois State, his sister was a two-time state champion in track and currently runs for Louisville, his dad was a big ten champ for Purdue, his uncle was big ten athlete of the year. His dad coached track at Notre Dame in the 90's. DNA don't lie folks. Kid is special and it doesn't matter where he plays. He captains Indy Select team that features David Bell. If you got the it they will find you. ND coaches love this kid
 

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In case anyone is interested in a slightly different evaluation of his play:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GIFs! <a href="https://twitter.com/jamieuyeyama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jamieuyeyama</a> takes a look at new <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> LB commit Jack Kiser. <a href="https://t.co/ETIILobINq">https://t.co/ETIILobINq</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1006678744898170881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Kiser older brother played at Illinois State, his sister was a two-time state champion in track and currently runs for Louisville, his dad was a big ten champ for Purdue, his uncle was big ten athlete of the year. His dad coached track at Notre Dame in the 90's. DNA don't lie folks. Kid is special and it doesn't matter where he plays. He captains Indy Select team that features David Bell. If you got the it they will find you. ND coaches love this kid

And there you have it folks.....straight from Jack Kiser's mom.



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Here's the thing...Kiser's Film is unbelievable.

10 minutes and 29 seconds of unbelievable playmaking. He is a stud on offence, defence and ST.

In fact I don't know what more Kiser could have done in those 10:29.

If Prister is saying the competition is weak... no problem...but to say the film is weak is absolute garbage.
 
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How tall is Jack Kiser with/without shoes - doesn't matter - just qualify?

That's my 1 and only concern. Don't fluff me because we'll find out sooner or later. If he's 6' it is what it is, he'll have to overcome that. If he's 6'2" I'm excited.
 

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Welcome to the team, Jack. From everything I've read you have the physical tools, but more importantly, you have the leadership skills that Notre Dame needs. There's always room for a larger, faster version of Nicco to show the heart that Kelly's teams so often lack.
 

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Here's the thing...Kiser's Film is unbelievable.

10 minutes and 29 seconds of unbelievable playmaking. He is a stud on offence, defence and ST.

In fact I don't know what more Kiser could have done in those 10:29.

If Prister is saying the competition is weak... no problem...but to say the film is weak is absolute garbage.


Yuuup.
I guess if Kiser was the only LB for the class I can see why some would be concerned, BUT ND's had two good/great LB classes and I would expect to pick up a few more this go around.
How many times have us ND fans watched some 3* go out there and play like an absolute maniac, have an incredible game and we say to ourselves, "man, I wished ND had more players like that?!"
Looks like this kid LOVES TO PLAY FOOTBALL. Give me a roster full of those guys any day of the week than a bunch a prima donna’s.
 

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Yuuup.
I guess if Kiser was the only LB for the class I can see why some would be concerned, BUT ND's had two good/great LB classes and I would expect to pick up a few more this go around.
How many times have us ND fans watched some 3* go out there and play like an absolute maniac, have an incredible game and we say to ourselves, "man, I wished ND had more players like that?!"
Looks like this kid LOVES TO PLAY FOOTBALL. Give me a roster full of those guys any day of the week than a bunch a prima donna’s.

the flip side of all of that is Drew White/David Adams who both were HIGHLY successful HS athletes but likely will never see the field at ND and are basically wasting roster spots. You want Kiser to be a Tranquill type and not like these two.
 

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Checked into this thread ready to SMH on a no-name 3 star but end up pretty excited for an elite athlete (track stats don't lie) who is a proven leader. Looks to me like he has quite a bit of room to fill out his frame yet. No way he come in two inches shorter than advertised based on Kizer pic. And plays all over the field so tons of position flexibility - should contribute quick to ST.

Overall thumbs up.
 

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the flip side of all of that is Drew White/David Adams who both were HIGHLY successful HS athletes but likely will never see the field at ND and are basically wasting roster spots. You want Kiser to be a Tranquill type and not like these two.

Both were good H.S. “football” players, not athletes. That’s the difference. Adams was never a good athlete. He was a smart/tough HS football player. The difference is Kiser is a really good athlete. Adams and White can’t dream of a sub 11 100.
 

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Both were good H.S. “football” players, not athletes. That’s the difference. Adams was never a good athlete. He was a smart/tough HS football player. The difference is Kiser is a really good athlete. Adams and White can’t dream of a sub 11 100.

dont get me wrong i am all in on Kiser, but at the same time we have some jilted brides on here and i can see which altars they got stranded on in the past few years
 

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How tall is Jack Kiser with/without shoes - doesn't matter - just qualify?

That's my 1 and only concern. Don't fluff me because we'll find out sooner or later. If he's 6' it is what it is, he'll have to overcome that. If he's 6'2" I'm excited.

To quote Ball State's coach when he visited him, "damn, a recruit who's actual size matches his profile, we never see that...kids who list 6'2 205 are almost always 6'0 190"
He is 6'2 pushing 6'3 and 214 right now

Prob 6'2 1/2-6'3 225-230 when he arrives officially in South Bend

Honestly been a little shocked nobody has recruited him as offensive player
 

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To quote Ball State's coach when he visited him, "damn, a recruit who's actual size matches his profile, we never see that...kids who list 6'2 205 are almost always 6'0 190"
He is 6'2 pushing 6'3 and 214 right now

Prob 6'2 1/2-6'3 225-230 when he arrives officially in South Bend

Honestly been a little shocked nobody has recruited him as offensive player

Honestly where on offense?
 

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dont get me wrong i am all in on Kiser, but at the same time we have some jilted brides on here and i can see which altars they got stranded on in the past few years

I get it and I’m not completely sold on his upside either. But the difference between is some of the other misses at LB have been because of athleticism. Kiser at least has that. So if this ends up being a miss, I don’t think the miss will be, never heard from again. It will be ST’s stalwart and functional depth.
 

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Honestly where on offense?

Baker Mayfield 6'0 got 33 million guaranteed
Kiser has rushed for 5000 w 90 tds completed 66% for 3000 45 tds with 5ints
Wouldn't a Miami of Ohio or a Ball state someone lower tier look at offense?
 
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