'19 IN LB Jack Kiser (Notre Dame Man)

Luckylucci · Feb 7, 2019

If he's going to be a counter regardless, then he should give it to someone else. Injury doesn't really make sense as a concern, because he'd just get a medical scholarship.

ab2cmiller · Feb 7, 2019

Luckylucci said:
If he's going to be a counter regardless, then he should give it to someone else. Injury doesn't really make sense as a concern, because he'd just get a medical scholarship.

Yup, the only reason to potentially keep it, is if he just wanted the flexibility to walk away from football in the midst of pursuing his degree.

BabyIrish · Feb 7, 2019

Pete Sampson already reporting that Kiser has been very impressive since he early enrolled. I think this guy will be ST starter out of the gate.

Edge · Feb 7, 2019

Hearing that also.

However he had surgery on his shoulder today and will be out for spring practice

Irish YJ · Feb 7, 2019

Edge said:
Hearing that also.

However he had surgery on his shoulder today and will be out for spring practice

wut?

ab2cmiller · Feb 7, 2019

Edge said:
Hearing that also.

However he had surgery on his shoulder today and will be out for spring practice

Can't find anything. He was fine yesterday.

Irish YJ · Feb 7, 2019

ab2cmiller said:
Can't find anything. He was fine yesterday.

Polian did an interview yesterday. One of the things he commented on was how awesome Kiser is doing. Going from that, to surgery and out for the spring is strange.

Edge · Feb 7, 2019

Irish YJ said:
Polian did an interview yesterday. One of the things he commented on was how awesome Kiser is doing. Going from that, to surgery and out for the spring is strange.

According to Tom Loy, Polian used the term "phenomenal" to describe ND linebacker Jack Kiser

Kiser had a lingering issue and team orthopedist said get it fixed
So they did

T-Boone · Feb 7, 2019

Edge said:
According to Tom Loy, Polian used the term "phenomenal" to describe ND linebacker Jack Kiser

Suddenly thinking three and done.

Irish YJ · Feb 7, 2019

Edge said:
According to Tom Loy, Polian used the term "phenomenal" to describe ND linebacker Jack Kiser

Kiser had a lingering issue and team orthopedist said get it fixed
So they did

thanks. was it loy that reported the surgery?

NDdomer2 · Feb 7, 2019

Irish YJ said:
thanks. was it loy that reported the surgery?

edge is clearly some sort of family

Irish YJ · Feb 7, 2019

NDdomer2 said:
edge is clearly some sort of family

good deal.

edge, send him our well wishes to get better and get the hell back as soon as possible.
i think he's my favorite player in this class.

Edge · Feb 7, 2019

Not a family member but followed the kids career and know the family

BobbyMac · Feb 8, 2019

Bummer about the shoulder.

Elsewhere, ND fans are surprised that Kaiser (the 3*, 1A bum who didn't deserve an ND offer) is showing out early. Elite athletes tend to look good in the weight room and drills. I hope him and Simon end up the Coney/Tranquil in '20 & '21

koonja · Feb 8, 2019

FightingIrishLover7 said:
But what does Koon think?

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Gosh you love me. We have a very celebrity-fan relationship. You're always thinking and talking about me, meanwhile you never register on my radar or find your way into my posts unless you call me out. Its extremely flattering. I'll get you an autograph sometime.

I wouldn't have taken him. We're loaded at LB.

Am I supposed to panic and change my opinion because some analysts said he looks great in winter workouts?

You know how many guys have look great in winter workouts and never start?

BobbyMac · Feb 8, 2019

koonja said:
I wouldn't have taken him. We're loaded at LB.

Not taking easily the most athletic LB on your roster is bold.

Domina Nostra · Feb 8, 2019

koonja said:
Gosh you love me. We have a very celebrity-fan relationship. You're always thinking and talking about me, meanwhile you never register on my radar or find your way into my posts unless you call me out. Its extremely flattering. I'll get you an autograph sometime.

I wouldn't have taken him. We're loaded at LB.

Am I supposed to panic and change my opinion because some analysts said he looks great in winter workouts?

You know how many guys have look great in winter workouts and never start?

Panic? Don't you want him to be really good?

And what is your opinion based on at this point? It's one thing to have a general distrust of athletes who look great on tape against bad competition, but it seems like his size and athleticism and work ethic have all been confirmed.

koonja · Feb 8, 2019

Domina Nostra said:
Panic? Don't you want him to be really good?

And what is your opinion based on at this point? It's one thing to have a general distrust of athletes who look great on tape against bad competition, but it seems like his size and athleticism and work ethic have all been confirmed.

I hope he's the next Drue Tranquill.

For a guy who was playing against Children based on his competition, he was impressive on offense but his defensive film didn't impress me. He also looks tiny, but apparently everyone's "eye test" is giving him 6'2", which I also hope is true.

I don't think we needed 4 linebackers in this class.

Out of Asa Turner, Kiser, Luifau, Ekwanu, and Bertrand.... Kiser and Bertrand were guys I wouldn't have taken, but Bertrand without being guaranteed a spot made sense.

ColinKSU · Feb 8, 2019

I'm not convinced on Kiser, but I will give him credit for being transcendent against the awful level of competition he faced in high school. If you're going to make the leap from that to championship-level FBS football, you had better at least be crushing the will to live of your high school competition.

Edge · Feb 8, 2019

Until they put on pads we never know
I can tell you based on workouts
Team agility- LBs Kiser was first
Ten yd burst - kiser was 2nd (Bilal)

He's just a freshman
As early enrollees they all have a long way to go

snoopdog · Feb 8, 2019

Edge said:
Not a family member but followed the kids career and know the family

Edge, when is Kiser schedule to get back to full go?

IrishLion · Feb 8, 2019

I cleaned it up.

It's okay to discuss a guy's ratings and potential, and whether or not you would take him, but it's not okay to use that to clog the thread with personal beef and debate.

Keep it about Kiser, not Koon's prognosticating abilities (or lack there of).

Domina Nostra · Feb 8, 2019

koonja said:
I hope he's the next Drue Tranquill.

For a guy who was playing against Children based on his competition, he was impressive on offense but his defensive film didn't impress me. He also looks tiny, but apparently everyone's "eye test" is giving him 6'2", which I also hope is true.

I don't think we needed 4 linebackers in this class.

Out of Asa Turner, Kiser, Luifau, Ekwanu, and Bertrand.... Kiser and Bertrand were guys I wouldn't have taken, but Bertrand without being guaranteed a spot made sense.

Gotcha. I tend to assume that when they go after an Indiana kid, they've done their homework--but they've definitely had some misses in that department.

Luckylucci · Feb 8, 2019

Domina Nostra said:
Gotcha. I tend to assume that when they go after an Indiana kid, they've done their homework--but they've definitely had some misses in that department.

I think this is one of the differences with this defensive staff versus other. Starting with Lea, I think this defensive recruiting staff does a really good job of getting to know the prospects and families. Lea always mentions how he wants to develop deep relationships with recruits and then you read about Asa Turners recruitment and you realize it's true.

Edge · Feb 8, 2019

snoopdog said:
Edge, when is Kiser schedule to get back to full go?

Summer

snoopdog · Feb 8, 2019

Edge said:
Summer

Thanks hope it doesn’t set him back to far so he ends up losing the entire season

OCIrish · Feb 11, 2019

NDCrusader said:
Like Tracy Foster back in the day? Or am a few days older than you?

Yes, Crus, you're definitely a few days older than I.

IRISHMAN · Feb 22, 2019

jack kiser had surgery on his should and will miss spring ball. looks like a he'll most likely redshirt for sure this year.

https://www.ndinsider.com/football/...cle_128d1255-a7c4-5502-9fd8-b7951227291f.html

ColinKSU · Feb 22, 2019

I’ve never had an injury or surgery like that, but I feel like I always hear that shoulder problems are holding back players from ever developing like they could have if they were healthy.

What’s the probable outcome from an injury like this? Does he always have a bad shoulder, or is this the kind of injury that he’ll easily get past with time?

zelezo vlk · Feb 22, 2019

ColinKSU said:
I’ve never had an injury or surgery like that, but I feel like I always hear that shoulder problems are holding back players from ever developing like they could have if they were healthy.

What’s the probable outcome from an injury like this? Does he always have a bad shoulder, or is this the kind of injury that he’ll easily get past with time?

I thought it was just cleaning some stuff up? I was not under the impression that this was a Nicky Barratti level shoulder problem

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