‘19 ASU NB Jordan Clark (ASU Grad Transfer- Notre Dame Commit)

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This is a good pick-up. Grad transfer NIL game is paying off! Congrats Jordan.
 
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Prister sounds pretty meh on Clark. Has said twice he's not Thomas Harper so not to get your hopes up.
 
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Lberry said:
Prister sounds pretty meh on Clark. Has said twice he's not Thomas Harper so not to get your hopes up.
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Clark had more pass defended this year than Harper had in 4 years at Oklahoma State.

I'm sure Prister knows a thing or two, but I've seen Clark play. If you were to put his film next to Harper at OSU, I'm taking Clark in a millisecond. More explosive, better in coverage.

I think he's suffering a bit of recency bias, because Harper really benefited from playing in Golden's defense in a way I feel Clark is going to benefit as well.
 
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Lberry said:
Prister sounds pretty meh on Clark. Has said twice he's not Thomas Harper so not to get your hopes up.
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Uyeyama likes him quite a bit and backed it up with stats.

I think the staff did an awesome job identifying harper as a lot of the beat had questions about him. He waaay outperformed where many had him pegged to the point he may have played himself into the back end of the draft, or better free agent options.
 
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didn't see ASU play this year but just assumed they were bad everywhere with a really bad season that they had but the way you guys are talking this kid was really good and can really help this team be a playoff contender next year so excited about that.
 
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Lberry said:
Prister sounds pretty meh on Clark. Has said twice he's not Thomas Harper so not to get your hopes up.
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Prister is slowly becoming the old man who yells at the clouds. Wouldn't put too much stock into anything he says anymore.
 
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FightingIrishLover7 said:
That's a wrong take
He may be old, but he's still real as shit and his knowledge/history is invaluable.

He by far was the most dead on about Tobias for just one example.
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Disagree. Maybe the analogy was wrong, but he tends to underplay EVERYTHING. I wouldn't say that's real. That's pessimistic. That's an extreme. I think O'Malley and Sampson are way more real than Prister is.

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ThePiombino said:
Prister is slowly becoming the old man who yells at the clouds. Wouldn't put too much stock into anything he says anymore.
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I value guys like him and Mike Frank. They're older and they've seen greatness, championships - and they haven't lowered their expectations and I appreciate that. It's that critical lens they look at players through usually, IMO.

You need a mix, but having the old guard with high standards is necessary too, otherwise we get ahead of our skis hope wise.
 
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Lberry said:
I value guys like him and Mike Frank. They're older and they've seen greatness, championships - and they haven't lowered their expectations and I appreciate that. It's that critical lens they look at players through usually, IMO.

You need a mix, but having the old guard with high standards is necessary too.
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I think they're both jaded and I find it hard to listen to them sometimes, ESPECIALLY Frank since he doesn't really provide any value to the pod. Don't get me wrong, I don't like homers either. I tend to prefer the talking heads who keep it in the middle.
 
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Clark had more pass defended this year than Harper had in 4 years at Oklahoma State.

I'm sure Prister knows a thing or two, but I've seen Clark play. If you were to put his film next to Harper at OSU, I'm taking Clark in a millisecond. More explosive, better in coverage.

I think he's suffering a bit of recency bias, because Harper really benefited from playing in Golden's defense in a way I feel Clark is going to benefit as well.
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You could be right. Clark did get picked on more this year than 2022. He gave up over 500 passing yards vs opponents. But you’re right about Harper. I don’t think Prister expected what ND got out of him this year. Hopefully Clark is a seamless transition.
 
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ThePiombino said:
I think they're both jaded and I find it hard to listen to them sometimes, ESPECIALLY Frank since he doesn't really provide any value to the pod. Don't get me wrong, I don't like homers either. I tend to prefer the talking heads who keep it in the middle.
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Yeah, I can't even listen to Mike Frank. I think TP tends to lean more to the pessimistic side, but is somewhat reasonable about it when Tim O and Pete push back on him. Mike doesn't have the personality that will allow anyone else on the pod to push back and he just runs with the negativity.
 
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laughingirish90 said:
didn't see ASU play this year but just assumed they were bad everywhere with a really bad season that they had but the way you guys are talking this kid was really good and can really help this team be a playoff contender next year so excited about that.
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Clark also played through a knee injury this year and a scheme change to less man coverage (which he excels at)
 
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I appreciate Prister's saltiness. He is usually pretty good - ofc with his tenure his ego can get in the way sometimes, but I think he is at least aware of that tendency.

Freeman values legacies, networks, people - intrinsics beyond just on field play. I think that is part of the story here. Is he as good as harper? Not clear to Prister, but I am sure Freeman likes the fact that he is Ryan Clark's son, he is a captain, etc. I personally like this pick-up a lot.
 
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Listening to the Thursday II pod, I'm not sure I've ever heard prister be more negative of an incoming player, save for maybe Jack Kiser whom he didn't think was worthy of a p5 scholarship.

Had nothing but negative things to say about him.
 
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IAIrish said:
Listening to the Thursday II pod, I'm not sure I've ever heard prister be more negative of an incoming player, save for maybe Jack Kiser whom he didn't think was worthy of a p5 scholarship.

Had nothing but negative things to say about him.
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Did he specifically say why he didn't like him?
 
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dublinirish said:


i get that his dad is famous on ESPN and whatever but having a kid who has never played a snap representing the program in NYC is kinda weird to me
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It’s also his dad right there next to him on the show lol. Having Jack Kiser in there would be totes weird.
 
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