'18 MI CB Kalon Gervin (Michigan State Verbal)

[Sherm Sticky]

Loy with a CB to OU.

That seems about right.


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[connor_in]

Gonna be at East Lansing this week for ND vs Sparty per his Twitter

 

[ResLife Hero]

Have to wonder if him being at the game did more for us than MSU. Defense is looking so much better than last year.

 

[MNIrishman]

Notre Dame
Positives: average football for the past decade.

1. Ditto
2. Academics difficult. Players constantly suspended because of it.
3. Ditto
4. Ditto.

They put the national storm prediction center in Oklahoma specifically because of its terrible weather... It's not even in the same categorical universe.

I also literally addressed the location thing in my post. It's further from Houston to Oklahoma than any adjacent state to ND.

 

[STLDomer]

Have to wonder if him being at the game did more for us than MSU. Defense is looking so much better than last year.

I’d be more swayed away from MSU after that showing by the fans. 75% students peaced by the start of the 4Q

 

[TheChosen1]

Constantly suspended? Who currently is suspended for academic reasons?

No players currently but the football team is on probation with the NCAA

 

[BobbyMac]

Have to wonder if him being at the game did more for us than MSU. Defense is looking so much better than last year.

You'd have to think it's a win all around for not only Gervin but any of the other players present that ND has contact with. But MSU did pick up a commitment last night from Dwan Mathis a 4* QB from Detroit area. He's a poor man's Phil Jurkovec (aren't they all). Goes to show, some players see need and fit as more important than one bad night.

They put the national storm prediction center in Oklahoma specifically because of its terrible weather... It's not even in the same categorical universe.

I also literally addressed the location thing in my post. It's further from Houston to Oklahoma than any adjacent state to ND.

Besides more tornadoes, most would find Norman's weather much better than South Bend's. Warmer winters, longer spring and summer, 2-3 months more sunny days per year. Anyways, if weather really mattered in college football either SC or UCLA would play the 100x defending champion SDSU Aztecs.

In regards to Norman being in the middle of nowhere... it is if you can't recruit your state and Dallas. But they do. Drive time from Dallas to OKC isn't much different than going from ND to Indy. I bet at least 50% of OU's roster lives within a 3 hour drive.

 

[texbender]

You'd have to think it's a win all around for not only Gervin but any of the other players present that ND has contact with. But MSU did pick up a commitment last night from Dwan Mathis a 4* QB from Detroit area. He's a poor man's Phil Jurkovec (aren't they all). Goes to show, some players see need and fit as more important than one bad night.



Besides more tornadoes, most would find Norman's weather much better than South Bend's. Warmer winters, longer spring and summer, 2-3 months more sunny days per year. Anyways, if weather really mattered in college football either SC or UCLA would play the 100x defending champion SDSU Aztecs.

In regards to Norman being in the middle of nowhere... it is if you can't recruit your state and Dallas. But they do. Drive time from Dallas to OKC isn't much different than going from ND to Indy. I bet at least 50% of OU's roster lives within a 3 hour drive.

10-4, OU is a major recruiter in North and East Texas, plays every year in Dallas (vs UT), and rotates into Ft. Worth (TCU), Waco (Baylor), Lubbock (TT), and occasionally Houston. Any Texas team would tell you OU is big time competition in a lucrative and fertile recruiting area. Norman is the same drive from Dallas as Austin.

 

[jspags10pg]

Anyways, if weather really mattered in college football either SC or UCLA would play the 100x defending champion Hawaii Rainbow Warriors.

FIFY

 

[BGIF]

Notre Dame
Positives: average football for the past decade.

1. Ditto
2. Academics difficult. Players constantly suspended because of it.
3. Ditto
4. Ditto.

Players constantly suspended because of it.

BS! You haven't a clue, have you?


BTW, NCAA Graduation Rates '09 Cohort (most recent) ND 93%, OU 76%

'03 Cohort ND 96% , OU 44%

That GRADUATION rate. ND academics are rigorous so a person can succeed in life.


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[dwshade]

BTW Pete Sampson says ND is doing its due diligence on Gervin. Meaning talking to teachers, guidance counselors, etc. determining if he's a good fit. Part of the new plan to make sure the guys they bring in are great fits for being successful at ND.

 

[STLDomer]

BTW Pete Sampson says ND is doing its due diligence on Gervin. Meaning talking to teachers, guidance counselors, etc. determining if he's a good fit. Part of the new plan to make sure the guys they bring in are great fits for being successful at ND.

Pretty sure everyone does that, maybe extra due diligence would be better phrasing by Petey. That’s how that Last Chance U lady makes a living!

 

[KizerWilhelm]

But MSU did pick up a commitment last night from Dwan Mathis a 4* QB from Detroit area.

Mathis watching the game: "Holy shit, I can pass this guy in the depth chart two years from now."

Dantonio: "Yeah, probably."

 

[dwshade]

Pretty sure everyone does that, maybe extra due diligence would be better phrasing by Petey. That’s how that Last Chance U lady makes a living!

I think our due diligence is a little different than most schools. Stanford too.

 

[BGIF]

BTW Pete Sampson says ND is doing its due diligence on Gervin. Meaning talking to teachers, guidance counselors, etc. determining if he's a good fit. Part of the new plan to make sure the guys they bring in are great fits for being successful at ND.

Pretty sure everyone does that, maybe extra due diligence would be better phrasing by Petey. That’s how that Last Chance U lady makes a living!

Due diligence?

Everyone?

Like Art Briles? Baylor? "A good fit" sounds like a term for a Baylor lawsuit?

Auburn talking to teachers? If he can block print his name, he gets a jersey.




Oh, about Last Chance U lady, she flew the coop ... last February.

She's got a new career as Catering Sales and Marketing Director for Newk's in Birmingham, AL. ALL five locations. "Hi, would you like some soup with your salad?

 

[STLDomer]

Due diligence?

Everyone?

Like Art Briles? Baylor? "A good fit" sounds like a term for a Baylor lawsuit?

Auburn talking to teachers? If he can block print his name, he gets a jersey.




Oh, about Last Chance U lady, she flew the coop ... last February.

She's got a new career as Catering Sales and Marketing Director for Newk's in Birmingham, AL. ALL five locations. "Hi, would you like some soup with your salad?

You really are gunning for me aren’t you lol.

That’s why I said EXTRA. The way the post/Sampson presented it, makes it sound like what ND is doing is a rare or new thing. Everyone does it. ND is probably doing it EXTRA.

Using extremes is always a really could strategy when arguing with someone. Keep doing it.

 

[BobbyMac]

FIFY

San Diego's MUCH better weather than hot, humid, rainy, moldy Honapoopoo.

 

[dwshade]

You really are gunning for me aren’t you lol.

That’s why I said EXTRA. The way the post/Sampson presented it, makes it sound like what ND is doing is a rare or new thing. Everyone does it. ND is probably doing it EXTRA.

Using extremes is always a really could strategy when arguing with someone. Keep doing it.

Only reason I really mentioned this is because of what Swarbrick and Kelly had discussed in the off season. They felt they needed to do a better job of identifying kids who fit ND culturally and from an academic standpoint. So I think it is even more of a priority than it maybe has been in recent years.

 

[BGIF]

You really are gunning for me aren’t you lol.

That’s why I said EXTRA. The way the post/Sampson presented it, makes it sound like what ND is doing is a rare or new thing. Everyone does it. ND is probably doing it EXTRA.

Using extremes is always a really could strategy when arguing with someone. Keep doing it.

You really are gunning for me aren’t you lol.

Exaggerating yet again. No question mark. It was declarative.

I've posted maybe 2 or 3 dozen times this weekend which is normal for a game weekend. I can only recall two posts involving you, both of which you responded to with personal attacks. Both times you were wrong. I ignored the first.

Using extremes is always a really could (sic) strategy when arguing with someone. Keep doing it.

Strange you would say that as the use of extremes is your M.O. Extremes like "everyone" was your choice of words. I generally provide specifics or examples like Art Briles, Baylor, and Auburn. You provide glittering generalities, such as, "everyone". You exaggerated with "everyone" in your first post and did it again in your follow up.

Contrary to your hyperbole, "everyone" does not do it. If Art Briles had done due diligence, he still have a job.

For the most part school/coaches get transcripts to meet the minimal NCAA check list requirements. Graduation records, academic ineligibility records, drop out records, arrest records, criminal prosecutions, etc tend to underscore that not all schools do the due diligence that ND does. And ND doesn't bat 1000 although they strive for strive for excellence. ND is proud of their 94, or 95% Graduation Rate (with real degrees, from real classes) but would like to see that number at 100%. ND is looking at the lifetime achievement not "will he be eligible for next week's game?"

Besides ND's mission, ND can't afford to gloss over details for a basic athletic reason.

If Mississippi State, Alabama, FSU, etc (I can post a hundred or more schools as examples) get a young man that doesn't "cut it" athletically, academically, or behaviorally (socially or legally), they can replace that person with a 20 or 21 year old JUCO plug-in. AND if that one doesn't work out replace him with another.

ND can't. No JUCOs. Athletes transferring into Notre Dame with the exception of NCAA compliant Graduate Transfers are rare. Graduate Transfers like the PAC 10 QB that came into the SEC for Park Management aren't going to gain entry into ND regardless of NCAA rules.

ND has to get it right the first time.

They didn't bother under Rockne, nor Leahy. Admissions were more lax. Transfers not unusual. The school had a different direction then. Father Ted changed that. (See Terry Brennan.) Monk took it much further (SEE Holtz, Davie, Willingham, and Weis). During the Holtz era, the relationship between the Admissions and Lou and Vinny Cerrato was acrimonious to say the least. "Cold War" and "Hardliners" were apt terms to describe the atmosphere and the participants. Cordial on the surface, fanatics in their respective domains. Lou and Vinny dragged their feet on providing transcripts on borderline (or below) prospects trying to finesse "11th hour" decisions. Finally in '95 the situaion exploded. On NSD, Lou had read out the names of two prospects of LOI signees that it turned out had NOT cleared ND Admissions. At ND, Admissions decides who is going to be a student not the football coach. ND Admissions was not about to be bullied by a football press conference. The two athletes had not and were not admitted to ND despite the LOIs. They ended up making All-American elsewhere. At least one of them made All-Pro.

From my past conversations with Compliance Commissioners in several conferences, ND and a half dozen or so universities actually do due diligence, most, I was told, do the minimum.

 

[STLDomer]

Sorry but there’s zero chance I read that whole post lol

You’re the only poster that has responded negatively to my posts since I logged back on a week ago. Both not only disagreeing with me, which I invite anyone (ex. plenty disagreed with my coaches post, fine with that) to, but also throwing in an unnecessary “clever” joke. So yeah I’ll respond personally.

due diligence, most, I was told, do the minimum.

So in shorter words, you could say most do it, but ND does it EXTRA of other schools.

What I said in the first place....

EDIT: yeah I said everybody, not most. If that nitpick of not excluding Baylor is really worth the argument fine I was wrong. Your extreme beats my generalization.

 

[MNIrishman]

Sorry but there’s zero chance I read that whole post lol

You’re the only poster that has responded negatively to my posts since I logged back on a week ago. Both not only disagreeing with me, which I invite anyone to, but also throwing in an unnecessary “clever” joke. So yeah I’ll respond personally.



So in shorter words, you could say most do it, but ND does it EXTRA of other schools.

What I said in the first place....

You should read the whole thing. BGIF provides quality content, which you demonstrate is a rarity.

 

[STLDomer]

You should read the whole thing. BGIF provides quality content, which you demonstrate is a rarity.

Will do. This post was very important content thank you.

(I read his post btw it was a joke at the length)

 

[koonja]

Good Lord, STL said nothing rude. Or even incorrect.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

I think landing him and another corner along with Thomas booker will be a nice haul and key for next year. Booker is basically down to us and Stanford and we were on him early plus he is close with other guys in this class along with being closer to home. Also looking at stanfords schedule they have only 1 easy game left I don't see how they win out here

 

[BobbyMac]

Today on...

CB's to Sparty from 247's MSU and OSU analysts.



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[Luckylucci]

Today on...

CB's to Sparty from 247's MSU and OSU analysts.



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Wiltfong said that at one point or another, every team in his top group has been considered a leader with Kalon. It would be pretty hilarious if it ended up being MSU after ND beat the living crap out of them on national television.

 

[koonja]

Wiltfong said that at one point or another, every team in his top group has been considered a leader with Kalon. It would be pretty hilarious if it ended up being MSU after ND beat the living crap out of them on national television.

Sounds like he'd stick at ND if he did choose us.

 

[dwshade]

Personally I don't think the kid is an ND fit. Not saying he's a bad kid by any means at all. I don't know him. But he doesn't seem to be the kind of kid who would be successful at ND.

 

[connor_in]

Wiltfong said that at one point or another, every team in his top group has been considered a leader with Kalon. It would be pretty hilarious if it ended up being MSU after ND beat the living crap out of them on national television.

Why? Maybe he might see it as quicker road to playing time. Wouldn't be the the first by far to commit to a team that lost on visit.

 

[Luckylucci]

Why? Maybe he might see it as quicker road to playing time. Wouldn't be the the first by far to commit to a team that lost on visit.

Because all offseason we heard that no players would want to come to ND after 4-8 season. People constantly prognosticate on how important winning during OV's is, and we come out on the losing end for a recruit, after we completely whipped the other teams butt. I would find that pretty funny.