'17 HI SDE Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa (Notre Dame Signee)

[HawaiianIrish]

Hawaii has big time players in 18 class, i hope this is the start of some thing even greater with recruiting in hawaii for notre dame.

This kid is the cream of the crop

Palaie Gaoteote, Bishop Gorman, Outside Linebacker


he from Oahu, but is playing ball at Bishop Gorman in LV.

 

[BGIF]

Mahalo but props go to Coach Brian Polian. This was his hard work and dedication on selling ND to Myron and his OHANA.

Of course Polian gets the credit for recruiting, you get the credit for the attitude and the phrase.

Check your user title.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

This kid is the cream of the crop



Palaie Gaoteote, Bishop Gorman, Outside Linebacker





he from Oahu, but is playing ball at Bishop Gorman in LV.

Hawaiian, goes to Bishop Gorman where ND has had recruiting success and has had a top 10 NFL pick from that school and two current players from that school, he probably idolized Te'O growing up in Hawaii. You would think this would be a slam dunk. Kelly, Elko, Lea and Polian better have this wrapped up by the summer!


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[BobbyMac]

Hawaiian, goes to Bishop Gorman where ND has had recruiting success and has had a top 10 NFL pick from that school and two current players from that school, he probably idolized Te'O growing up in Hawaii. You would think this would be a slam dunk. Kelly, Elko, Lea and Polian better have this wrapped up by the summer!


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Except a couple of his teammates went to OSU this cycle and everyone thinks they lead.

A lot of great options at LB in '18 who have serious interest in ND. But if I could chose only one it's IE. Thankfully, Bauer is on board already and the next guy who signs is gravy.

 

[PANDFAN]

Latest Netflix binge: “I’m not allowed to go on Netflix.”

Defensive lineman Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa | Notre Dame Insider Recruiting Signing Day | ndinsider.com

 

[Luckylucci]

Very religious family, father is a pastor.

 

[dublinirish]

Stranger Things was great, you are missing out Myron

 

[dwshade]

Very religious family, father is a pastor.

Believe his mother is as well.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Stranger Things was great, you are missing out Myron

Haha! The kid lives in Hawaii, is an all-state football player, and got a free-ride to ND. Not sure he's missing out on too much.

 

[dublinirish]

Haha! The kid lives in Hawaii, is an all-state football player, and got a free-ride to ND. Not sure he's missing out on too much.

he wouldn't get the 80's pop culture references anyways..

 

[woolybug25]

Latest Netflix binge: “I’m not allowed to go on Netflix.”

Defensive lineman Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa | Notre Dame Insider Recruiting Signing Day | ndinsider.com

This is concerning to me, actually. Parents are doing their kids no favors censoring them from mainstream culture. There is a difference between censoring vulgarity, sex and violence from them. But sheltering them in this manner is setting them up for a Marinovichesque awakening once they are put into the general population.

It's how kids get catfished as well.

 

[koonja]

This is concerning to me, actually. Parents are doing their kids no favors censoring them from mainstream culture. There is a difference between censoring vulgarity, sex and violence from them. But sheltering them in this manner is setting them up for a Marinovichesque awakening once they are put into the general population.

It's how kids get catfished as well.

I agree. This is how you end up with fake dead girlfriends who are boyfriends.

 

[woolybug25]

I agree. This is how you end up with fake dead girlfriends who are boyfriends.

 

[BobbyMac]

This is concerning to me, actually. Parents are doing their kids no favors censoring them from mainstream culture. There is a difference between censoring vulgarity, sex and violence from them. But sheltering them in this manner is setting them up for a Marinovichesque awakening once they are put into the general population.

It's how kids get catfished as well.

Karma say... Wolly Jr. watch Fox News 24-7 by age 3.

I agree. This is how you end up with fake dead girlfriends who are boyfriends.

Too Soon?

 

[KizerWilhelm]

This is concerning to me, actually. Parents are doing their kids no favors censoring them from mainstream culture. There is a difference between censoring vulgarity, sex and violence from them.

Heh, don't complain. Religious upbringings drive these kids into our arms.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Heh, don't complain. Religious upbringings drive these kids into our arms.

Yeah, without religion, ND's sales pitch changes to "arguably the fourth most prestigious place where you can play D1 football."

 

[woolybug25]

Heh, don't complain. Religious upbringings drive these kids into our arms.

Our Catholicism is what drove the Mormon into our arms?


You can be religious and aware of mainstream media.

 

[KizerWilhelm]

Our Catholicism is what drove the Mormon into our arms?


You can be religious and aware of mainstream media.

Speaking for myself, I attended Notre Dame because I liked the faith-based element and religious atmosphere. I'm Protestant.

I suspect observant Mormons would like a lot about ND: single-sex housing and parietals come to mind.

 

[IrishLax]

This is concerning to me, actually. Parents are doing their kids no favors censoring them from mainstream culture. There is a difference between censoring vulgarity, sex and violence from them. But sheltering them in this manner is setting them up for a Marinovichesque awakening once they are put into the general population.

It's how kids get catfished as well.

Come on Wooly...

This is an incredibly simplistic opinion and rife with assumptions about their parenting that you can't possibly know. And there is no evidence that "exposure to pop culture" (and specifically TV) is inherently a positive influence on one's social skills and maturity. In fact, a LOT of studies have shown extremely negative effects from watching TV... including antisocial disorders, depression, and immaturity.

Two personal examples from opposite ends of the spectrum:
1. My wife's cousins are uber liberal... as blue as you can get. One aunt/uncle who are insanely smart and insanely successful (museum curator + honored in French court for her work & extremely successful real estate lawyer) live in LA... the mecha of entertainment. They raised their kids without a TV in the house because watching TV is a "waste of time." One is a brain surgeon with multiple Ivy League degrees, the other is an entrepreneurial photographer at the top of his field. Neither one lacks for culture or social adjustment on account of "no TV."

2. One of my best friends and the nicest guy I've ever met is a very conservative Mormon raised in a conservative Mormon family. In high school, I once brought over the movie Dodgeball and his parents thought it was totally inappropriate and stopped us from watching it. Like many Mormons, he was prohibited by his parents from participating in many "destructive" activities as a youth including watching a lot of edgy media you'd find on Netflix. He has a beautiful wife who is a doctor, and he was making six figures straight out of school before leaving to get his MBA at Chicago, and is one of the nicest/funniest/social guys you will ever meet.

While there are negatives to "sheltering" there are also positives to restrictive parenting practices that emphasize character building and social activities over alternatives. There is no evidence that Netflix is necessary to raise a well-adjusted and successful child.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Our Catholicism is what drove the Mormon into our arms?


You can be religious and aware of mainstream media.

Yes.

Sure you can, but that doesn't mean that a school that openly espouses a spiritual dimension to its education, and enforces rules like sex segregated dorms, isn't a more attractive option for those who don't.

. . . While there are negatives to "sheltering" there are also positives to restrictive parenting practices that emphasize character building and social activities over alternatives. There is no evidence that Netflix is necessary to raise a well-adjusted and successful child.

Exactly. And frankly, your kids are going to hear a lot in locker rooms and playgrounds and friends houses anyway. There will be lots of opportunities for discussing culture.

 

[woolybug25]

Come on Wooly...

This is an incredibly simplistic opinion and rife with assumptions about their parenting that you can't possibly know. And there is no evidence that "exposure to pop culture" (and specifically TV) is inherently a positive influence on one's social skills and maturity. In fact, a LOT of studies have shown extremely negative effects from watching TV... including antisocial disorders, depression, and immaturity.

Two personal examples from opposite ends of the spectrum:
1. My wife's cousins are uber liberal... as blue as you can get. One aunt/uncle who are insanely smart and insanely successful (museum curator + honored in French court for her work & extremely successful real estate lawyer) live in LA... the mecha of entertainment. They raised their kids without a TV in the house because watching TV is a "waste of time." One is a brain surgeon with multiple Ivy League degrees, the other is an entrepreneurial photographer at the top of his field. Neither one lacks for culture or social adjustment on account of "no TV."

2. One of my best friends and the nicest guy I've ever met is a very conservative Mormon raised in a conservative Mormon family. In high school, I once brought over the movie Dodgeball and his parents thought it was totally inappropriate and stopped us from watching it. Like many Mormons, he was prohibited by his parents from participating in many "destructive" activities as a youth including watching a lot of edgy media you'd find on Netflix. He has a beautiful wife who is a doctor, and he was making six figures straight out of school before leaving to get his MBA at Chicago, and is one of the nicest/funniest/social guys you will ever meet.

While there are negatives to "sheltering" there are also positives to restrictive parenting practices that emphasize character building and social activities over alternatives. There is no evidence that Netflix is necessary to raise a well-adjusted and successful child.

I don't disagree with any of your points. But it doesn't change my stance. I believe, through personal experience, that people that are sheltered from elements of culture that aren't really serious, are "more likely" to go off the deep end when they get inevitably exposed to it. It's the "Preacher's Daughter Syndrome". I'm not the first person to acknowledge the phenomenon. It happens all of the time and there are a bazillion examples of it.

Now, can a sheltered kid turn out fine? Sure. Just in the same way that a kid exposed to violence can end up being timid. But that doesn't change the fact that it "can" lead to the opposite conclusion.

I'm not stating unequivocally that one leads to the other. Life is obviously more diverse than that. But are we really gonna act like it doesn't happen all of the damn time? C'mon...


Also, I am not dogging on the religious backdrop of Notre Dame. I applaud it and see it as a defining, neh THE defining element of the university. I'm just saying that I get concerned when I see a kid this sheltered come to a place where he is going to get it shoved in his face. That's life, man.

 

[Wingman Ray]

At my house there is no television. My daughter watches movies and cartoons growing up (she is 10 now). We do not do television because honestly, I dont want her exposed to the commercials and garbage that the America Oprah Winfrey society produces. I dont want her having the homosexual/transgender ideology shoved down her throat. Did you know that even Sesame Street has a transgender Muppet now?

Todays television is about as far from a Christian family lifestyle as it can be and I dont want her having any part of it. And no, I dont think that makes her any way shape or form warped nor unable to interact/be friends with other children.

 

[woolybug25]

At my house there is no television. My daughter watches movies and cartoons growing up (she is 10 now). We do not do television because honestly, I dont want her exposed to the commercials and garbage that the America Oprah Winfrey society produces. I dont want her having the homosexual/transgender ideology shoved down her throat. Did you know that even Sesame Street has a transgender Muppet now?

Todays television is about as far from a Christian family lifestyle as it can be and I dont want her having any part of it. And no, I dont think that makes her any way shape or form warped nor unable to interact/be friends with other children.

Ok. I'm sure she'll never find out about it...

 

[Wingman Ray]

Im sure she will eventually. But a child growing years are very important and we do not need that garbage in our family. Anything can happen in life but that doesnt mean we dont do our best to move forward with the best foot. And it doesnt mean we dont TALK about it. I just dont want her seeing how todays television and media talk about it like it is a POSITIVE thing when it isnt. At least it isnt to anyone Christian.

 

[woolybug25]

Im sure she will eventually. But a child growing years are very important and we do not need that garbage in our family. Anything can happen in life but that doesnt mean we dont do our best to move forward with the best foot. And it doesnt mean we dont TALK about it. I just dont want her seeing how todays television and media talk about it like it is a POSITIVE thing when it isnt. At least it isnt to anyone Christian.

So watching Netflix makes one a bad Christian?

 

[Wingman Ray]

So watching Netflix makes one a bad Christian?

I didnt say Netflix. I said television as in cable television.

I dont think netflix is a bad thing if you control the content

 

[woolybug25]

I didnt say Netflix. I said television as in cable television.

I dont think netflix is a bad thing if you control the content

So let me rephrase.... does watching [\insert cable show] make you a bad Christian?

 

[OCIrish]

So let me rephrase.... does watching [\insert cable show] make you a bad Christian?

In Ray's house.......yes

 

[Wingman Ray]

So let me rephrase.... does watching [\insert cable show] make you a bad Christian?

Quite a few or pretty much MOST shows today on Cable Television do not exhibit Christian family values. So if having Christian family values is important to a parent, then Im going to say no, he/she shouldnt be allowing their kids to immerse themselves in things that are opposite of Christian values.

 

[IrishLax]

I don't disagree with any of your points. But it doesn't change my stance. I believe, through personal experience, that people that are sheltered from elements of culture that aren't really serious, are "more likely" to go off the deep end when they get inevitably exposed to it. It's the "Preacher's Daughter Syndrome". I'm not the first person to acknowledge the phenomenon. It happens all of the time and there are a bazillion examples of it.

Alright that's all fair and very true. There are a lot of kids I went to high school with that had repressive Asian parents (the stereotypical "Tiger Mom") that flunked out of college or picked up addictions or what have you because they didn't experience anything until they went off to school and then had no ability to self-regulate. So it certainly cuts both ways, I think I understand your viewpoint better now.

I thought before you were literally saying that exposure to TV == important for the development and social adjustment of a child.