'15 JUCO-FR RB Jeremy Smith (Louisville Verbal)

[Rack Em]

I was gonna say if we're passing here there has to be some high confidence level with another back.

There must also be confidence that Folston and Bryant will be here next season. Otherwise we're looking at some combination of those 2, Adams, and whoever else we land this cycle.

 

[dad4aa]

There must also be confidence that Folston and Bryant will be here next season. Otherwise we're looking at some combination of those 2, Adams, and whoever else we land this cycle.

Why would they not be here? Returning number 1 and 2 RB

 

[Rack Em]

Why would they not be here? Returning number 1 and 2 RB

Rumors they were caught smoking weed or tested positive for it. Nothing has come of it yet though so it may just be a rumor.

 

[NDPhilly]

Makes no sense to me if we want to take two more RBs

 

[dublinirish]

“We are excited. Notre Dame has a platform and a brand of higher learning that we want to learn more about. It is a great opportunity for my son and what more can a parent actually wish for? Having an institution of higher learning like Notre Dame, wanting your son to come play football for them is just great. I am blown away.”When the family arrives in South Bend next weekend, both of Smith’s mothers will be paying close attention to how Notre Dame sets their student-athletes up to succeed in the classroom. Williams, a Notre Dame fan, is excited for the trip and understands that if offered, his son may end up having a great opportunity that would be hard for Smith to turn down.
“Both of his mothers and I definitely want to check out the academic side of things,” Smith said. “They are both very intrigued by Notre Dame and then they believe football will take care of itself after academics. We trust the coaches because they have been doing that for years and we just want our son to succeed academically too. An education and a degree from Notre Dame, that’s something you can’t put a price on. Notre Dame is a grand stage for academics.
“I have been a Notre Dame fan for a long time even though I live down here in LSU and SEC country. I take a lot of beef, but the academic side of Notre Dame there is nothing but great things to say.”

Comments from his dad less than a week ago. What the hell changed between then and now?

well at the time it was his first offer so yeah i guess they were pretty excited and kinda hyper about it. but now that more offers are on the table they gotta choose the right one to take.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

I think it is more of ND's doing than from Smith and his family.

I would still take him if I was ND just bc the flexibility he gives you with the numbers game being a Soph and being able to still put a redshirt on him if need be.

But I think ND feels good about Jones and possibly another RB whos name could surface shortly if transcripts/mutual interest happen.

 

[dublinirish]

Kudo's to ND for getting onto this kid first but they are many programs out there with greater RB needs that can offer greater playing time. Plus the programs that take JUCO's often will be able to show Jeremy and his family what they can do with such players as its normal for them. It would take a giant leap of faith for Jeremy to choose ND over the likes of Louisville etc

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I think it is more of ND's doing than from Smith and his family.

I would still take him if I was ND just bc the flexibility he gives you with the numbers game being a Soph and being able to still put a redshirt on him if need be.

But I think ND feels good about Jones and possibly another RB whos name could surface shortly if transcripts/mutual interest happen.

The problem I see here is they may be going after someone who they aren't sure has mutual interest. Doesn't sound like a solid plan.

 

[ThePiombino]

I think it is more of ND's doing than from Smith and his family.

I would still take him if I was ND just bc the flexibility he gives you with the numbers game being a Soph and being able to still put a redshirt on him if need be.

But I think ND feels good about Jones and possibly another RB whos name could surface shortly if transcripts/mutual interest happen.

Good God, man. Are we really gonna pass on this guy because there MIGHT be someone else interested and he MIGHT have the academics to get in? Dumb. Bird in hand... Also, I take this to mean the staff doesn't feel good about Soso. That blows.

 

[NDdomer2]

I might go on a date tonight if she has mutual interest

 

[TheTurningPoint]

I am guessing there is mutual interest, but as we know....to be considered as ND player, you must have grades first. But time is pressing so he may have other options before ND can get full swing into recruiting with him.

Or ND may have already decided its not worth going after the other kid. I dont know the answer, but there are moving pieces with RB recruits at the moment.

 

[Grahambo]

No longer visiting per ISD.

 

[irishff1014]

To good to be true

 

[ThePiombino]

No longer visiting per ISD.

Fucking shocker.

 

[Irish2155]

Welcome to ND football, hopes up...then down.

I bet he'd be visiting if we didn't lose to UL and NW. Then just didn't throw in the towel at Southern Cal. But who wants to beat a dead horse?

 

[Luckylucci]

Welcome to ND football, hopes up...then down.

I bet he'd be visiting if we didn't lose to UL and NW. Then just didn't throw in the towel at Southern Cal. But who wants to beat a dead horse?

Read above, him not coming has nothing to do with us losing. Its time some read first before making ridiculous statements.

 

[dwshade]

Never saw the match here with Smith and ND. I don't think he was ever going to be a serious consideration.

 

[IrishLax]

I was referring to this year. As to those players you listed they aren't exactly difference makers. We didn't slow play Westerkamp, he had been a Nebraska commit before we got involved. We don't lack for quality receivers. ND was never really high on Smith or Bolden. They didn't slow play Hubbard, they just didn't recruit him hard.

This is just factually inaccurate. Unless you have a completely different definition of "slow play."

To the others on the list post above, absolutely slow played Enoch Smith, no on Bolden, no on Westerkamp (late initial interest is not the same thing as a "slow play"), yes on Rios.

 

[Irish2155]

Read above, him not coming has nothing to do with us losing. Its time some read first before making ridiculous statements.

How far should I read above? Give me post numbers, please Lucky. You've locked me down for a while.

I still believe the same, regardless. Not just this recruit.

 

[Luckylucci]

How far should I read above? Give me post numbers, please Lucky. You've locked me down for a while.

I still believe the same, regardless. Not just this recruit.[/QUOTE]

We're basically going all in on Ronald Jones this weekend and keeping things open with Soso. We don't want to bring on other guys that could turn those two away. Sorry, for the frustration but I've seen it a lot lately where posters are asking the same questions as other posters and doing so fairly close together. I get we all want timely info, thats what makes this site great but take sometime and read through the thread and everything will make more sense.

Considering one of, if not the, best in the business thinks we finish with Alize, R. Jones, Kinnel, Edwards, and Cage. I'll completely disagree with you until those guys are off the table or they are committed to ND.

 

[dwshade]

This is just factually inaccurate. Unless you have a completely different definition of "slow play."

To the others on the list post above, absolutely slow played Enoch Smith, no on Bolden, no on Westerkamp (late initial interest is not the same thing as a "slow play"), yes on Rios.

How do you get slow playing Hubbard when the kid committed to OSU last April? I know at the time staff wasn't sold on him especially in new defense. No slow playing there. Second coming of Ben Councell. Also know for sure they were never enamored with Smith, mainly Diaco.

 

[dwshade]

How far should I read above? Give me post numbers, please Lucky. You've locked me down for a while.

I still believe the same, regardless. Not just this recruit.[/QUOTE]

We're basically going all in on Ronald Jones this weekend and keeping things open with Soso. We don't want to bring on other guys that could turn those two away. Sorry, for the frustration but I've seen it a lot lately where posters are asking the same questions as other posters and doing so fairly close together. I get we all want timely info, thats what makes this site great but take sometime and read through the thread and everything will make more sense.

Considering one of, if not the, best in the business thinks we finish with Alize, R. Jones, Kinnel, Edwards, and Cage. I'll completely disagree with you until those guys are off the table or they are committed to ND.

Those five are definitely doable and would be a great finish.

 

[Irish2155]

How far should I read above? Give me post numbers, please Lucky. You've locked me down for a while.

I still believe the same, regardless. Not just this recruit.[/QUOTE]

We're basically going all in on Ronald Jones this weekend and keeping things open with Soso. We don't want to bring on other guys that could turn those two away. Sorry, for the frustration but I've seen it a lot lately where posters are asking the same questions as other posters and doing so fairly close together. I get we all want timely info, thats what makes this site great but take sometime and read through the thread and everything will make more sense.

Considering one of, if not the, best in the business thinks we finish with Alize, R. Jones, Kinnel, Edwards, and Cage. I'll completely disagree with you until those guys are off the table or they are committed to ND.

Thank you, much appreciated...no italics. I'll catch up soon...

Soso isn't coming though...my opinion, am sure it's not the only. What would we do with a 5 star back?

 

[Irish2155]

How far should I read above? Give me post numbers, please Lucky. You've locked me down for a while.

I still believe the same, regardless. Not just this recruit.[/QUOTE]

We're basically going all in on Ronald Jones this weekend and keeping things open with Soso. We don't want to bring on other guys that could turn those two away. Sorry, for the frustration but I've seen it a lot lately where posters are asking the same questions as other posters and doing so fairly close together. I get we all want timely info, thats what makes this site great but take sometime and read through the thread and everything will make more sense.

Considering one of, if not the, best in the business thinks we finish with Alize, R. Jones, Kinnel, Edwards, and Cage. I'll completely disagree with you until those guys are off the table or they are committed to ND.

Ok, fair enough. If we land Alize my fat ass would do a back flip...not happening though. The rest, we'll see...I hope the same as you...but I don't know man. The best in the business is hard to argue with though. We'll see.

 

[Luckylucci]

Ok, fair enough. If we land Alize my fat ass would do a back flip...not happening though. The rest, we'll see...I hope the same as you...but I don't know man. The best in the business is hard to argue with though. We'll see.

I'm curious, when you make a statement like "not happening" in regards to getting Alize, what are you basing that statement on?

 

[IrishLax]

How do you get slow playing Hubbard when the kid committed to OSU last April? I know at the time staff wasn't sold on him especially in new defense. No slow playing there.

Huh? Here is the timeline...

Hubbard is a lacrosse commit, his football coach says "you could play D1 football" and asks what schools he'd like to send the film to, every school he sends the film to immediately offers except ND, ND slow plays him talking about being a PWO and saying they want to evaluate him more, he commits to Ohio State, later gets an offer. All of this under Diaco.

That is literally textbook slow playing someone... chasing bigger prospects on your board while dragging your feet on an offer despite maintaining contact only to reach out late in the cycle with an offer after whiffing.

Also know for sure they were never enamored with Smith, mainly Diaco.

Yeah, Diaco was never high on him, and the initial "offer" wasn't committable. But we circled back around after the coaching change with renewed interest and he wasn't interested.

 

[Irish2155]

I'm curious, when you make a statement like "not happening" in regards to getting Alize, what are you basing that statement on?

A bad finish compared to UCLA's. Jim Mora as well. West coast guy, at least not a decommitt. Just not feeling it.

You beg to differ, I'm curious why as well?

 

[Luckylucci]

A bad finish compared to UCLA's. Jim Mora as well. West coast guy, at least not a decommitt. Just not feeling it.

You beg to differ, I'm curious why as well?

Seriously that is what you base your opinion on? Thats a rhetorical questions as I'm just blown away by how little information is actually present.

Those close to him and at BG have very good relationships with ND's staff. Principle at the school is an ND alum. He has taken two unofficial visits to ND and will be taking a 3rd visit, his OV this weekend. One of his best friends, Nico Fertita, is an ND commit. He has stated that education is the most important factor to him and his family. He's obviously aware of our exceptional success with TE's in the league. Lastly, Witlfong is calling this shot and I'll trust the guy that is aces at his job versus a "feeling".

 

[Irish2155]

Seriously that is what you base your opinion on? Thats a rhetorical questions as I'm just blown away by how little information is actually present.

Those close to him and at BG have very good relationships with ND's staff. Principle at the school is an ND alum. He has taken two unofficial visits to ND and will be taking a 3rd visit, his OV this weekend. One of his best friends, Nico Fertita, is an ND commit. He has stated that education is the most important factor to him and his family. He's obviously aware of our exceptional success with TE's in the league. Lastly, Witlfong is calling this shot and I'll trust the guy that is aces at his job versus a "feeling".

Serious, save your rhetorical questions for someone who cares. He is a UCLA commit, and has been since I can remember. We've done nothing on the field to convince him to change that decision. And lastly, Jim Mora won't let this kid get away.

You bring up a lot a great points, none of which changes this young's man decision or my opinion. But I hope you are right, because he is an amazing football player.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Serious, save your rhetorical questions for someone who cares. He is a UCLA commit, and has been since I can remember. We've done nothing on the field to convince him to change that decision. And lastly, Jim Mora won't let this kid get away.

You bring up a lot a great points, none of which changes this young's man decision or my opinion. But I hope you are right, because he is an amazing football player.

Lucci, Jones has been wavering for months now. This isn't just now becoming tangible interest. Jones has been interested in ND since he started his recruitment. It's just now reaching the point where everything comes together. UCLA wasn't all that hot this year either, and that epic pantsing they suffered at the hands of Stanford (a team ND beat) pretty much put it all together. 9-3 looks good, but they stayed relatively healthy, while ND was toting out their scout team defense and a makeshift offensive line. Completely different scenarios, and I'm pretty sure Aliz'e knows it.