'16 CA WR Javon McKinley (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

stpeteirish · Jan 18, 2020

stlnd01 said:
The story almost makes it sound like the biggest hangup is whether the team wants/has room for him. I can't imagine why that'd be an issue.

His one mistake aside, McKinley by all accounts seems like a high-character kid, who has stuck out a college career that probably didn't go quite as he'd hoped, and last year worked his way into being an important contributor to our offense, even if it didn't always show up on the stat sheet. Also I think there's benefit to having fifth-year guys in the program, even if they're not front line starters. And we'll have the scholarships.

Really hope this works out.

It seems pretty obvious what the issue is-85 schlorships. McKinley is "on the bubble" and someone has to leave while he's working to get a spot. The fact that he doesn't have a definite spot in Jan indicates that the staff doesn't see him as a "must keep" player.

Someone will leave, they always do, and if he stays out or trouble and still wants in after graduating he'll probably get a spot.

stlnd01 · Jan 18, 2020

tom prendergast said:
It seems pretty obvious what the issue is-85 schlorships. McKinley is "on the bubble" and someone has to leave while he's working to get a spot. The fact that he doesn't have a definite spot in Jan indicates that the staff doesn't see him as a "must keep" player.

Someone will leave, they always do, and if he stays out or trouble and still wants in after graduating he'll probably get a spot.

The last count I saw had us at 86 guys, without McKinley (this is post-Skowronski/Kmet/Phil updates). It would be... unprecedented?... for us not to lose a couple more between now and the start of the season. But I'd imagine if McKinley doesn't have a spot at Notre Dame he'd like to know that and move on for a 5Y elsewhere?

Maybe there's a couple more recruits they're gunning for we don't know about. But hard to see us even having 85 guys by the Navy game, let alone being above. In the end this won't be an issue.

Prof K · Jan 18, 2020

At 6'2" 220 could he play some TE? I never thought he was a top blocking WR, but maybe?

irishandy · Jan 19, 2020

Bring him back. He may not have experience on the field, but he has experience within the program.

koonja · Jan 19, 2020

When does the WR to TE conversion actually work?

Ever?

Irishize · Jan 19, 2020

stlnd01 said:
He's not a need unless Austin flunks another drug test or Skowronski has more ankle problems, in which case I suspect we'd rather have him than not. Even if he's the No. 3 big WR I see no downside to having Javon McKinley on our football team.

Exactly! The off season is a long haul. Plenty of time for 18-22 year olds to make dumb choices & get caught.

ulukinatme · Jan 20, 2020

koonja said:
When does the WR to TE conversion actually work?

Ever?

When has it not worked? I'm serious, because I can't think of a time it's been done.

Wingman Ray · Jan 20, 2020

WR to TE is never going to have a serious blocker unless you are talking about blocking DBs that happen to get too close to the LOS but it would make for a good receiving target.

More than anything, it gives a player a position rather than walking papers.

Domina Nostra · Jan 20, 2020

McKinley is a perfectly good college WR. The fact that he is not a star doesn't mean he is not valuable as a rotation guy.

Irishize · Feb 2, 2020

From Javon’s mom. Great advice for parents with a child being recruited:

To Recruits, a prime example. Don’t choose a school based on the Coach relationship you develop. We asked our son to pick a school that if all the coaches left, he will still be happy he chose it. The coach left a year later but Javon McKinley is still getting his Degree in May!

And this wasn’t meant as disrespect to Coach Sanford or any coach. Just the realization that the coaches a recruit develops relationships with in recruiting could be gone in less than a year.

stlnd01 · Feb 3, 2020

The savvier recruits (and hopefully their parents) realize this is a business and coaches are going to come and go. Pick the school. Don’t pick a young up-and-coming assistant (certainly not who’s never stayed at one place for more than two years).

I’d be curious what % of recruits play their entire college career with/for the assistant coaches that recruit them. Even at Notre Dame in this era of relative stability. Is Elston the only assistant coach who was there in 2016?

BobbyMac · Mar 5, 2020

Sounds like it's a go that he will be part of the team from ND's side. Doesn't mean he can't GT out if he's not getting the burn/targets he's looking for in Spring. Skowronek has to be cutting into those. It does sound like (up to this point) his plan is to stay at ND.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Official sign-off on Javon McKinley and Shaun Crawford doesn't come until May, according to Brian Kelly but he said they do not expect any issues with either player being cleared to play for the Irish in 2020.</p>— Angelo Di Carlo (@angdicarlo) <a href="https://twitter.com/angdicarlo/status/1235599133680914432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BobbyMac · May 17, 2020

irishff1014 · May 18, 2020

That’s awesome right there.

NDBoiler · May 18, 2020

Congratulations to Javon for turning things around after an early stumble at ND.

Any word on when he will know if he can come back for 2020?

greyhammer90 · Sep 13, 2020

Not being given enough credit for his block on Wlliams long touchdown run. He practically blocked his cornerback out of the endzone. That touchdown doesn't happen without that big boy block.

GrangerIrish24 · Sep 14, 2020

greyhammer90 said:
Not being given enough credit for his block on Wlliams long touchdown run. He practically blocked his cornerback out of the endzone. That touchdown doesn't happen without that big boy block.

i was just coming here to say the same thing

PANDFAN · Sep 15, 2020

greyhammer90 said:
Not being given enough credit for his block on Wlliams long touchdown run. He practically blocked his cornerback out of the endzone. That touchdown doesn't happen without that big boy block.

agreed, however rarely creating any kinds of separation from a db isn't helping in the passing game...he always looks so awkward running, like he is tripping over something or can't seem to keep steady..many times when the view panned out to see the whole field, it's like he seems to have Revis island on him at all times

BobbyMac · Oct 10, 2020

This is the guy I told you about in 2014.

He might break PFF’s all time blocking grade tonight.

Del builds blocking WR’s like no one else I know of.

Riddickulous · Oct 10, 2020

Big night so far

Sherm Sticky · Oct 10, 2020

I’m happy for him...

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Irish YJ · Oct 10, 2020

NDCrusader said:
This is the guy I told you about in 2014.

He might break PFF’s all time blocking grade tonight.

Del builds blocking WR’s like no one else I know of.

Another few inches and he'd be all pro TE...

zelezo vlk · Oct 10, 2020

Dude is punking a future NFL corner

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irishff1014 · Oct 10, 2020

107 yards for the night so far.

BobbyMac · Oct 10, 2020

zelezo vlk said:
Dude is punking a future NFL corner

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Samuel will check under his bed for Von for the rest of his life.

BobbyMac · Oct 12, 2020

BK in his presser:

He's coming on. I mean, it's just one of those things where sometimes it just takes longer. He's a beast. He just needs to think that way more often. I think he's starting to think that way. I mean, I think he is, isn't he? Aren't you? He's starting to think that way (smiling). He can't be defended. I mean, there's nobody I don't think in college football that can defend that kid. I mean, [Asante] Samuel is one of the best corners in the country. He didn't have much of a chance defending him. If he just continues to work the way he's been working, he's been one of our better practice players, he is a great leader with those wide receivers. I've been telling him he's got a chance to do some special things

greyhammer90 · Oct 12, 2020

NDCrusader said:
BK in his presser:

Damn that's like the most effusive I've ever heard BK be. Calling out an FSU CB by name saying that he didn't have a chance.

Whiskeyjack · Oct 12, 2020

#VonTron2020

Whiskeyjack · Oct 12, 2020

Maybe #MegaVon is better.

zelezo vlk · Oct 12, 2020

Didn't Boykin need the same kinda thing to happen? Once he got that confidence everything just clicked into place?

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