'16 CA QB Ian Book (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[ulukinatme]

Lmao at my 2015 player comp for Book.

Colt McCoy couldn't handle Ian Book's jock strap. That dude puss'd out in the NCG cause he was afraid of hurting his draft stock.

 

[T-Boone]

Yep. And that's my prediction, with one or both of Pyne and Clark transferring.

Yep. If his best projection is a sort of back up in the league then he would be mad not to max out eligibility with the way thing are trending for possible NC contention and his likelihood of breaking ND records.
And then Bucho can come in and wow us with handoffs a few time in the blow outs.

I suspect Book is more likely to head into coaching then big NFL success.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yep. If his best projection is a sort of back up in the league then he would be mad not to max out eligibility with the way thing are trending for possible NC contention and his likelihood of breaking ND records.
And then Bucho can come in and wow us with handoffs a few time in the blow outs.

I suspect Book is more likely to head into coaching then big NFL success.

He can take over as OC when Tommy becomes HC upon BK's retirement

 

[phillyirish]

Colt McCoy couldn't handle Ian Book's jock strap. That dude puss'd out in the NCG cause he was afraid of hurting his draft stock.

Colt McCoy was a pretty elite College QB. He put up some gaudy stats before it became the norm in these high tailored college offenses. He’s one of two players in NCAAF history to finish with a career completion percentage greater than 70%. Also ended up a 3rd round pick and started almost two years in the NFL. In fact, he played a game as recent as last year.

 

[ulukinatme]

Colt McCoy was a pretty elite College QB. He put up some gaudy stats before it became the norm in these high tailored college offenses. He’s one of two players in NCAAF history to finish with a career completion percentage greater than 70%. Also ended up a 3rd round pick and started almost two years in the NFL. In fact, he played a game as recent as last year.

Eh, a lot of people still think he puss'd out of that NCG though. He saw the way Alabama was manhandling his team, decided to take a fall to avoid hurting his draft stock. Small cajones on that dude. Those two years he started for the Browns are hardly anything to hang a hat on, and I say that as a Browns fan.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Eh, a lot of people still think he puss'd out of that NCG though. He saw the way Alabama was manhandling his team, decided to take a fall to avoid hurting his draft stock. Small cajones on that dude. Those two years he started for the Browns are hardly anything to hang a hat on, and I say that as a Browns fan.

I don't know about that. Dude got beat to sh*t in the Nebraska game by Suh.

If he was willing to hang in there in that slug fest, where he and his offense looked like complete ass, I can't imagine why he wouldn't do the same against Alabama where he looked considerably better.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Has anyone brought up yet how we will probably ask him to come back?
Buchner could back him up for a year.

I'd be absolutely shocked if Book returned.

I don't think Book can do much more at this point to increase his draft stock. He probably knows he's a late draft pick at best, and a guy who will need to likely earn a roster spot in rookie camp. The clock is ticking and he'll probably want to make the jump and get his shot while he's still young.

 

[T-Boone]

I'd be absolutely shocked if Book returned.

I don't think Book can do much more at this point to increase his draft stock. He probably knows he's a late draft pick at best, and a guy who will need to likely earn a roster spot in rookie camp. The clock is ticking and he'll probably want to make the jump and get his shot while he's still young.

if ND win a NC this year then he would go for sure, but what if they get close but fall short (which is surely the most likely outcome from here)?
Surely waiting a year and coming back and trying to win a championship and cement legendary status holds way more appeal than being a back up body on practice squads and the like.

 

[ulukinatme]

I don't know about that. Dude got beat to sh*t in the Nebraska game by Suh.

If he was willing to hang in there in that slug fest, where he and his offense looked like complete ass, I can't imagine why he wouldn't do the same against Alabama where he looked considerably better.

There's a lot of rumors out there, but by the NCG Colt had already cemented himself as one of the best QBs that year and a high draft pick assumed to be coming his way (Or so he thought). To save face he took a weak bump in the game and seemed fine coming up initially, but he took himself out and played up a stinger or something and never came back in. There's nothing malicious or that devastating about the hit he took, shouldn't have been enough to take him out of the game:

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[GATTACA!]

There's a lot of rumors out there, but by the NCG Colt had already cemented himself as one of the best QBs that year and a high draft pick assumed to be coming his way (Or so he thought). To save face he took a weak bump in the game and seemed fine coming up initially, but he took himself out and played up a stinger or something and never came back in. There's nothing malicious or that devastating about the hit he took, shouldn't have been enough to take him out of the game:

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#57 puts the crown of his helmet right into McCoy's bicep. This is also less than 4 minutes into the game with Texas driving. You're telling me not only has he already seen enough to think Alabama is going to bully them, but also made the decision to screw over his teammates to protect his draft stock?

This is a weak take.

 

[Irish#1]

I like Ian Book.

 

[Irishnuke]

There's a lot of rumors out there, but by the NCG Colt had already cemented himself as one of the best QBs that year and a high draft pick assumed to be coming his way (Or so he thought). To save face he took a weak bump in the game and seemed fine coming up initially, but he took himself out and played up a stinger or something and never came back in. There's nothing malicious or that devastating about the hit he took, shouldn't have been enough to take him out of the game:

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This is just stupid. Really, really stupid.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Literally the first time I've heard that Colt faked his injury. No way. My Longhorn friends would kill for Colt McCoy right now

 

[ulukinatme]

I'm not the one that came up with this! Somebody was discussing it again on TigerDroppings in 2018 almost a decade later. I'm just tellin' you what people have been saying for years. I remember people talking about it on the Texas site back then too. Plenty of high draft picks have avoided bowl games since then, they just tend to make the announcement before the game. Maybe Colt saw the writing on the wall and thought a poor performance would hurt his draft stock. Some rumors claim his father admitted to telling Colt to exit the game for the same reason.

Fake injury or not, I don't think Book would ever take himself out of a game even if he had a high draft projection (Which he obviously doesn't at this time).

 

[NorthDakota]

I think the McCoy stuff is and was a dumb conspiracy theory.

People see a high profile guy leave a game early on without seeing a clear injury happen (broken bone, knee, elbow stuff, etc) and rather than come to a normal conclusion such as "hmm must be something else", they go "omg do you guys think he is faking it to preserve his draft status?"

Sounds like something me and my other 18 y/o friends at the time would have come up with and we were (and some still are) idiots.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I'm not the one that came up with this! Somebody was discussing it again on TigerDroppings in 2018 almost a decade later. I'm just tellin' you what people have been saying for years. I remember people talking about it on the Texas site back then too. Plenty of high draft picks have avoided bowl games since then, they just tend to make the announcement before the game. Maybe Colt saw the writing on the wall and thought a poor performance would hurt his draft stock. Some rumors claim his father admitted to telling Colt to exit the game for the same reason.

Fake injury or not, I don't think Book would ever take himself out of a game even if he had a high draft projection (Which he obviously doesn't at this time).

I'll die believing Joe Bosa took himself out of the game (targeting) so he didnt get hurt

 

[rtrn2glory]

I'll die believing Joe Bosa took himself out of the game (targeting) so he didnt get hurt

Agreed

 

[T-Boone]

He is starting to sound like a coach in his press conferences.

 

[Riddickulous]

He is starting to sound like a coach in his press conferences.

Future QB coach under head coach Tom Rees

 

[fightingirish26]

Future QB coach under head coach Tom Rees

Nahhh, that'll be Pyne

 

[Junkhead]

I like Ian Book.

He has, for the most part, way outperformed his 3* ranking. I'm no NFL scout, but I don't see him with much of an NFL career, he doesn't have the size or major league arm they over-value. Dude is a winner. I've been a critic a few times, but would be perfectly fine with him coming back next year. College success doesn't always mean NFL success. Bottom line for me...I've appreciated his skill at ND. ND is 31-3 in last 34 games, and hasn't lost at home in years. PAY CLARK LEA!

 

[rtrn2glory]

He is starting to sound like a coach in his press conferences.

If this has been discussed already I apologize, but is he done after this year or is it possible with the eligibility rule he comes back next year?

 

[zelezo vlk]

If this has been discussed already I apologize, but is he done after this year or is it possible with the eligibility rule he comes back next year?

He could come back next year, but the talk has mostly been that he leaves. I mean, he wanted to be evaluated after the 2018 season, what would have changed since then? Smaller QBs stay on NFL rosters all the time. Might as well strike while the iron is hot, read: beat #1 team in the nation.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Only thing holding him back from a long career in the League is his progressions. I think another year in South Bend will help him.

 

[Irish YJ]

Only thing holding him back from a long career in the League is his progressions. I think another year in South Bend will help him.

Yes, and he was reading and progressing well the last two weeks. I'm not sure if something clicked in him, the WRs are now stepping up and they are just finding the chemistry, or what... But if he had a full year of looking like the last two weeks, his chances would be a lot better. I still don't see him as anything more than practice squad project, but that might change with a whole year of higher level play.

In 2018, they hype was there. Last year, it died and realization might have set in. A new spark might be set.

 

[Irishman77]

Kid is playing awesome. Love it!

 

[NDVirginia19]

And his arm strength, and his size. I don't think he has quite all the tools that the shorter QBs in the league have that overcome the lack of size. Russel Wilson and Kyler Murray for instance have rocket arms. I think he could 100% have a Colt McCoy career as a 2nd/3rd string back up, but that's his absolute cap IMO.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Yes, and he was reading and progressing well the last two weeks. I'm not sure if something clicked in him, the WRs are now stepping up and they are just finding the chemistry, or what... But if he had a full year of looking like the last two weeks, his chances would be a lot better. I still don't see him as anything more than practice squad project, but that might change with a whole year of higher level play.

In 2018, they hype was there. Last year, it died and realization might have set in. A new spark might be set.

I'm not sure he gets drafted even if this level of play continues the rest of the year.
However, if he comes back in 21 and plays this way all year he's definitely getting drafted. I'm not saying he'll be a starter, but he'll be on a roster for a long time if he can continue to effectively go through his reads.

Imo, his floor is a guy that can win you a game or two if the QB1 goes down for a stretch. Ceiling might be Jeff Garcia?

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm not sure he gets drafted even if this level of play continues the rest of the year.
However, if he comes back in 21 and plays this way all year he's definitely getting drafted. I'm not saying he'll be a starter, but he'll be on a roster for a long time if he can continue to effectively go through his reads.

Imo, his floor is a guy that can win you a game or two if the QB1 goes down for a stretch. Ceiling might be Jeff Garcia?

I agree. If he wins the NC this year, maybe he goes late, but I think ultimately he's a UDFA this year if he goes. I do think another year playing at this level would help him not just with draft stock, but simply with development.

 

[Old Man Mike]

My concern for Ian at the NFL level is: can he continue to do what he does better than almost anyone at the college level --- dance into small gaps and make psychic direction changes in the midst of blitz-rushing chaos. He's mind-bogglingly good at that and it is (very often) from that pocket magic that his winning plays occur.

Can he still out-psych the chaos of an NFL rush? If he can, he for sure has a job. If not ...? Not, I think.