'16 CA QB Ian Book (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[Irish YJ]

Yeah Sam Bradford set the completion% record in 2016 but trust me, he was not a world beater that year.

He did have something in common with Book. Poor OL.. And Bradford was definitely in the top 10 most sacked guys. He also had the 32nd ranked rushing team in the league.

 

[T-Boone]

If todays Book was a horror novel it was more Dean Koontz than Steven King.

 

[Irish YJ]

If todays Book was a horror novel it was more Dean Koontz than Steven King.

Was thinking more Charmed, than Supernatural.

 

[T-Boone]

Was thinking more Charmed, than Supernatural.

But thats TV not a Book.

 

[Irish YJ]

But thats TV not a Book.

OK, more Harry Potter, than Interview With a Vampire. LOL

 

[Irish YJ]

But thats TV not a Book.

https://www.thriftbooks.com/series/charmed/41235/

 

[NDinBoston]

I rarely post these days but I'll side with Book and those on his side. He is why ND won not why they almost lost. Forget stats, the OL/WR/gameplan was outplayed/outcoached. There was no run game and receivers were not open or active/aggressive. Special Teams almost lost this game with the offsides on their early punt and the return for a TD. Narduzzi had a great gameplan and Book overcame the challenges. He wasn't great but he wasn't nearly as bad as portrayed IMHO.

 

[BobbyMac]

I rarely post these days but I'll side with Book and those on his side. He is why ND won not why they almost lost. Forget stats, the OL/WR/gameplan was outplayed/outcoached. There was no run game and receivers were not open or active/aggressive. Special Teams almost lost this game with the offsides on their early punt and the return for a TD. Narduzzi had a great gameplan and Book overcame the challenges. He wasn't great but he wasn't nearly as bad as portrayed IMHO.

So where ya hangin out these days? You're missed round here.

 

[BeatSC]

I rarely post these days but I'll side with Book and those on his side. He is why ND won not why they almost lost. Forget stats, the OL/WR/gameplan was outplayed/outcoached. There was no run game and receivers were not open or active/aggressive. Special Teams almost lost this game with the offsides on their early punt and the return for a TD. Narduzzi had a great gameplan and Book overcame the challenges. He wasn't great but he wasn't nearly as bad as portrayed IMHO.

I somewhat agree with this but also upset that he blew it with that 3rd down CS slide. I honestly believe BW could have accounted for at least 19 points against Pitt. That int thrown back against his body needs to go away. That was some bush league crap. Still in favor of keeping him in but another game or two like this and he’s competing with Phil next year.

 

[ACamp1900]

The defense is why we won......

 

[BeauBenken]

Sorry y'all. He played poorly because I didn't start watching until mid-3rd quarter.

 

[Irish YJ]

Sorry y'all. He played poorly because I didn't start watching until mid-3rd quarter.

f'ing low energy watcher

 

[BeauBenken]

f'ing low energy watcher

I was very upset that the beer tasting I was at did not have a TV. But I was there for free and felt I couldn't complain...until the Irish went down at half. Then my brother and I got the heck out of there to watch the game.

 

[calvegas04]

I was very upset that the beer tasting I was at did not have a TV. But I was there for free and felt I couldn't complain...until the Irish went down at half. Then my brother and I got the heck out of there to watch out the game.

sounds like a bandwagon fan

 

[Irish YJ]

I was very upset that the beer tasting I was at did not have a TV. But I was there for free and felt I couldn't complain...until the Irish went down at half. Then my brother and I got the heck out of there to watch out the game.

You're already tired of winning. 3 week ban.

 

[IrishLax]

I'll leave it at this and drop it.
-When asked to do the things we know he does well (short and intermediate wide, and crossing), he was nearly 100. And those things make it easier on the OL.
-When asked to do things he hasn't done well, he didn't, and was under pressure doing it. And those things challenge the OL.
-He had no running game to make things more balanced and easier for him. And that's on the OL.
-Subtract half the sacks (that were not his fault), and the INT that was due to him getting hit in the arm, and he has a great QBR. Those are on the OL.
-Everyone said constantly that the coverage was great, the blitzes were killer. They did not constantly say Book sucked.
-He improved on the deep ball from last week's failures, and won the game with one.

Not a great game, but he was not the biggest issue tonight at all. Call plays that make him successful, and things work out.

That’s not how that works, QBR takes into account things that are not the QB’s fault (like you don’t get penalized for WR drops, and you do get penalized for rushing out of bounds for zero yards in lieu of trying to make a throw to an open receiver). I’m not saying it’s perfect... and ESPN doesn’t show how the sausage is made... but a 56 is a bad game.

 

[Irish YJ]

That’s not how that works, QBR takes into account things that are not the QB’s fault (like you don’t get penalized for WR drops, and you do get penalized for rushing out of bounds for zero yards in lieu of trying to make a throw to an open receiver). I’m not saying it’s perfect... and ESPN doesn’t show how the sausage is made... but a 56 is a bad game.

QBR takes into account the D. It does not subtract out INTs that were because of tips/sacks, etc.. He might get an EPA adjustment, but not a pass. QBR also only gives credit for YAC, not total yards passed. The opponent adjustment is really only for teams with top Ds. When teams like Pitt (rated as a bad D), calls a great game both coverage and blitz, the impact/adjustment is crap. QBR (raw or adjusted), is imperfect just like QB rating.

His QB rating, which takes into account all yards (not just YAC), is 9pts higher than the VT game. He actually moved up a spot so far (I think) to #12 nationally in QB rating.

 

[Luckylucci]

Just like with Wimbush, some of that is his fault.

 

[Bluto]

The defense is why we won......

The defense is far and away the primary reason ND is undefeated. If the d has a bad game Pitt wins this one by 14. The offense and Book need to start playing complete games more often than not (so far it’s been the later) or eventually they will boat raced.

 

[Irish YJ]

The defense is far and away the primary reason ND is undefeated. If the d has a bad game Pitt wins this one by 14. The offense and Book need to start playing complete games more often than not (so far it’s been the later) or eventually they will boat raced.

if the ST has a good game, ND wins by 14-21

 

[Bluto]

if the ST has a good game, ND wins by 14-21

That’s not likely to happen. Lol. Bottom line is that the D is the backbone of this team. If they have an off game the offense has not shown that it can carry the team for four quarters. Sooner or later ND is going to get into a shoot out. It happens even with “elite” teams. If the offense goes into the tank for half the game that’s gonna be bad news for the Irish.

 

[Irish YJ]

That’s not likely to happen. Lol. Bottom line is that the D is the backbone of his team. If they have an off game the offense has not shown that it can carry the team for four quarters. Sooner or later ND is going to get into a shoot out. It happens even with “elite” teams. If the offense goes into the tank for half the game that’s gonna be bad news for the Irish.

ST has been sucking. Until tonight, Book O has outscored everyone but Pitt by more than 3 TDs.

Os and Ds will ebb and flow. STs just needs to not fuck up.

 

[NDIrish88]

At the end of the day it looked like the offense was running a Wimbush style: trying to take more shots downfield. The OL didn't play great IMO in either the run or pass blocking but there were some plays where Book held on to the ball too long.

 

[AvesEvo]

At the end of the day it looked like the offense was running a Wimbush style: trying to take more shots downfield. The OL didn't play great IMO in either the run or pass blocking but there were some plays where Book held on to the ball too long.

It certainly felt like a classic Kelly game.

 

[IrishLax]

QBR takes into account the D. It does not subtract out INTs that were because of tips/sacks, etc.. He might get an EPA adjustment, but not a pass. QBR also only gives credit for YAC, not total yards passed. The opponent adjustment is really only for teams with top Ds. When teams like Pitt (rated as a bad D), calls a great game both coverage and blitz, the impact/adjustment is crap. QBR (raw or adjusted), is imperfect just like QB rating.

His QB rating, which takes into account all yards (not just YAC), is 9pts higher than the VT game. He actually moved up a spot so far (I think) to #12 nationally in QB rating.

That’s not entirely true, QBR is calculated by looking at success on a play-by-play basis for the QB position. It’s similar to how S&P, FEI, and other advanced stats looks at drive success or efficiency or whatever.

So Book has a bad QBR because of how many times he didn’t get the job done on a play-by-play basis.

 

[Irish#1]

Book was expected to have a bad to mediocre game sometime given the few starts. What is important is that given how bad he was in the first half he led the team to victory. Regardless all facets had a say in this less than stellar performance.

 

[BeatSC]

Polian needs to get canned or moved aside to recruiting coordinator only. Btw evrytime I type Polian speed check changes it to Polish. Defense wins championships but while we did play pretty good yesterday Pitt had 3 sacks to our one and 8TFL to our 4. Vaughn was a drop off from Pride. A lot of young guys getting in the game.

 

[BeauBenken]

You're already tired of winning. 3 week ban.

sounds like a bandwagon fan

Don't worry. I'm banning myself from posting in gameday threads until the 27th.


I'll be watching our tough matchup with BYE very intently this coming weekend.

 

[NDinBoston]

So where ya hangin out these days? You're missed round here.

Thanks NDC. Just been busy and when I watch the games now I try and watch more because following the threads is time consuming and I feel it takes away from my following/enjoying the game.

I'll try and post when I have something that might be interesting but I'm not that interesting so...

 

[IrishLion]

With the season in the balance, Notre Dame’s Ian Book was almost perfect

...with Notre Dame driving, Jazzee Stocker picked off an Ian Book pass. At this point, Book was 16-for-22, but for just 130 yards and two interceptions.

Here’s a list of the passes Book threw following the Stocker pick (not including a two-point conversion attempt):

1. Complete to Chase Claypool for 21 yards
2. Complete to Dexter Williams for minus-3 yards
3. Complete to Chris Finke for 26 yards
4. Complete to Finke for two yards
5. Complete to Finke for 15 yards
6. Complete to Claypool for a 16-yard touchdown
7. Complete to Claypool for nine yards
8. Complete to Alize Mack for one yard
9. Incomplete bomb to Claypool — defensive pass interference called
10. Complete to Miles Boykin for 12 yards
11. Complete to Boykin for a 35-yard touchdown

With the game in the balance, Book went 10-for-10 for 134 yards and two touchdowns. His only incompletion didn’t count.

That's... pretty good.