'14 OH QB DeShone Kizer (Notre Dame Signee)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kizer asked if he could ask Tom Brady one thing, what would it be: "Why would he ever choose to head up north to a school like Michigan?"</p>— Mike Vorel (@mikevorel) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/667046164257226752">November 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kizer asked if he could ask Tom Brady one thing, what would it be: "Why would he ever choose to head up north to a school like Michigan?"</p>— Mike Vorel (@mikevorel) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/667046164257226752">November 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Oh, DeShone. So young, so naive. You can't really blame the kid for thinking the GOAT was a 5-star recruit with his choice of any college in the country. But that's not the way things worked in the mid-90s. TFB didn't have schools banging down his door. He'd probably be surprised to learn TFB received very little interest from D1 programs before basically begging schools to give him a look. I wonder what DeShone would think if he learned TFB's dream school, USC, actually turned him down?

The question DeShone should've asked was, why didn't Lou Holtz and Notre Dame recruit the Irish Catholic golden boy out of Junipero Serra, an all-boys catholic high school, who idolized ND great Joe Montana? I'm sure ND was on the list of 54 schools TFB sent his VHS highlight tape to.
 

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Oh, DeShone. So young, so naive. You can't really blame the kid for thinking the GOAT was a 5-star recruit with his choice of any college in the country. But that's not the way things worked in the mid-90s. TFB didn't have schools banging down his door. He'd probably be surprised to learn TFB received very little interest from D1 programs before basically begging schools to give him a look. I wonder what DeShone would think if he learned TFB's dream school, USC, actually turned him down?



The question DeShone should've asked was, why didn't Lou Holtz and Notre Dame recruit the Irish Catholic golden boy out of Junipero Serra, an all-boys catholic high school, who idolized ND great Joe Montana? I'm sure ND was on the list of 54 schools TFB sent his VHS highlight tape to.


That's a little dramatic, even though it's true. It's not like TFB was shunned to the point he went to Azusa Pacific, he went to scUM, which sadly by all accounts is a top tier program, especially when he went there.
 

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As long as he doesn't let success get to him in off season and become a bloated twinkie eater like cardale, he should be fine and stay starter.
 

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Oh, DeShone. So young, so naive. You can't really blame the kid for thinking the GOAT was a 5-star recruit with his choice of any college in the country. But that's not the way things worked in the mid-90s. TFB didn't have schools banging down his door. He'd probably be surprised to learn TFB received very little interest from D1 programs before basically begging schools to give him a look. I wonder what DeShone would think if he learned TFB's dream school, USC, actually turned him down?

The question DeShone should've asked was, why didn't Lou Holtz and Notre Dame recruit the Irish Catholic golden boy out of Junipero Serra, an all-boys catholic high school, who idolized ND great Joe Montana? I'm sure ND was on the list of 54 schools TFB sent his VHS highlight tape to.

It was a joke... we know you're a Pats fan lol.
 
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I kind of noticed a certain naïvety on the part of DeShone when it came to sports legends we know all about. But then I realized he is barely nineteen, and he spent his time coming up doing, not watching.

(Seriously his whole early childhood started out with basketball and baseball.)
 
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Oh, DeShone. So young, so naive. You can't really blame the kid for thinking the GOAT was a 5-star recruit with his choice of any college in the country. But that's not the way things worked in the mid-90s. TFB didn't have schools banging down his door. He'd probably be surprised to learn TFB received very little interest from D1 programs before basically begging schools to give him a look. I wonder what DeShone would think if he learned TFB's dream school, USC, actually turned him down?

The question DeShone should've asked was, why didn't Lou Holtz and Notre Dame recruit the Irish Catholic golden boy out of Junipero Serra, an all-boys catholic high school, who idolized ND great Joe Montana? I'm sure ND was on the list of 54 schools TFB sent his VHS highlight tape to.

He dreamed of being a Trojan, but settled for being a skunkbear? Evidence of seriously deficient character right there.
 
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I read that Kiser is one rushing TD away from tying Rice and Mirer for most rushing TDs by a QB in one season at ND. That is some some I am company.
 
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I read that Kiser is one rushing TD away from tying Rice and Mirer for most rushing TDs by a QBatt ND. That is some some I am company.

In a season or career? It can't be in a career. Seems like Golson had quite a few.
 

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Makes sense! Kizer has very good vision when running the ball. One thing I am not looking forward too come spring ball.....quarterback battle.

I don't mind the competition...as long as we don't come out with some kind of stupid two QB system.
 

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I know there will be a "QB competition" but c'mon...if we finish the year with at least 11 games this year and Kizer continues to play well how can the job not be his (pending any off season issues or him just getting out of shape and not working hard *knocks on wood*)? I understand Zaire has shown some good potential but it's not like he was a long term, established starter when he went down. He was only starting his 4th game. Kizer is already the most experienced QB on the roster.

I just think that Kizer is the total package. By this time next year Wilbon's exuberant outburst might not seem so absurd. Kizer has good arm talent, good accuracy (most of the time), seems to be a strong leader, has great intangibles, and has strong vision when moving in the pocket and running. Plus he has something MZ can never have: height. The only knock on Kizer is that he can hold on to the ball too long but a lot of young QBs do that.

I'm not saying the job should be handed over to him on a silver platter, but I trust that Kizer would win any competition as I think he is a gamer and a hard worker. I trust that he will spend his time in the off season doing what he needs to do to be ready to roll. I just find it hard to believe that Kelly would pass on the opportunity to have true continuity at the most important position for the first time in his tenure at ND.

I will also admit to being very afraid if MZ went down and not really liking Kizer at the start of the season. I wasn't overly impressed with him until that 4th down game saving scramble against UVA. The clutch game winning pass to Fuller sealed the deal that this kid could be special in my mind. He hasn't let me down since. Playing QB at Notre Dame is a unique challenge and not everyone is up for it. Kizer has showed that he isn't afraid of any moment, no matter how big. He is special.
 

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I don't feel like this is an OSU situation where one QB played the whole season and the backup took us home when injury struck. Malik went down early in the season and Kizer has been a stone cold killer for almost an entire season. If he takes us to the promise land (national title), then I'm not entirely sure there should even be a competition.

I love Malik... I mean I really think he's a great player. I was very clear during our last QB competition that he should get the job. I was definitely in the minority on that. But if we win a title with Kizer, it wasn't because he got his opportunity on a good team like Golson did. He doesn't have a Rees to come in if things get tough (and he's had those moments), he has had to face those without the advantage of a safety net. He has taken a situation where no one would have blamed him if we would have fell apart because of the laundry lists of injuries. He has taken that opportunity and led this team to exactly what we thought we were getting in a team before the season started. The scary part is that his best football is in front of him and that means really good things for Notre Dame.
 

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I don't feel like this is an OSU situation where one QB played the whole season and the backup took us home when injury struck. Malik went down early in the season and Kizer has been a stone cold killer for almost an entire season. If he takes us to the promise land (national title), then I'm not entirely sure there should even be a competition.

I love Malik... I mean I really think he's a great player. I was very clear during our last QB competition that he should get the job. I was definitely in the minority on that. But if we win a title with Kizer, it wasn't because he got his opportunity on a good team like Golson did. He doesn't have a Rees to come in if things get tough (and he's had those moments), he has had to face those without the advantage of a safety net. He has taken a situation where no one would have blamed him if we would have fell apart because of the laundry lists of injuries. He has taken that opportunity and led this team to exactly what we thought we were getting in a team before the season started. The scary part is that his best football is in front of him and that means really good things for Notre Dame.
Nailed it.
 

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I don't feel like this is an OSU situation where one QB played the whole season and the backup took us home when injury struck. Malik went down early in the season and Kizer has been a stone cold killer for almost an entire season. If he takes us to the promise land (national title), then I'm not entirely sure there should even be a competition.

I love Malik... I mean I really think he's a great player. I was very clear during our last QB competition that he should get the job. I was definitely in the minority on that. But if we win a title with Kizer, it wasn't because he got his opportunity on a good team like Golson did. He doesn't have a Rees to come in if things get tough (and he's had those moments), he has had to face those without the advantage of a safety net. He has taken a situation where no one would have blamed him if we would have fell apart because of the laundry lists of injuries. He has taken that opportunity and led this team to exactly what we thought we were getting in a team before the season started. The scary part is that his best football is in front of him and that means really good things for Notre Dame.

Agreed, just because you have 2 or 3 good QB's on the team, doesn't mean there needs to be a QB battle every year. Kizer took his opportunity and seized it, you shouldn't punish him in the off season and take his starting spot away and say it is up for grabs. I like Malik and think he can be a very good QB, I just think Kizer is performing. Sometimes life just isn't fair. But if we have learned anything from BK over the last several years, he really struggles committing to a QB. From the sounds of it, Kizer never would have even gotten a chance if Malik didn't get hurt.
 

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I don't feel like this is an OSU situation where one QB played the whole season and the backup took us home when injury struck. Malik went down early in the season and Kizer has been a stone cold killer for almost an entire season. If he takes us to the promise land (national title), then I'm not entirely sure there should even be a competition.

I love Malik... I mean I really think he's a great player. I was very clear during our last QB competition that he should get the job. I was definitely in the minority on that. But if we win a title with Kizer, it wasn't because he got his opportunity on a good team like Golson did. He doesn't have a Rees to come in if things get tough (and he's had those moments), he has had to face those without the advantage of a safety net. He has taken a situation where no one would have blamed him if we would have fell apart because of the laundry lists of injuries. He has taken that opportunity and led this team to exactly what we thought we were getting in a team before the season started. The scary part is that his best football is in front of him and that means really good things for Notre Dame.


I don't think anyone can argue this post at all. Right on the money!
 
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I don't think Kizer needs to win the title or even a playoff game to cement himself as the starter. He's just come in and been too good and grown too much to not earn the job IMO.
 

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Kizer is literally the best QB in college football right now...period.

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Kizer is literally the best QB in college football right now...period.

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Okay, so you think that's funny, what about this? Not a comparative rating, but a description of potential :



First-and-10: As DeShone Kizer grows as QB, Notre Dame becomes greater threat

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By Matt Hayes, @Matt_HayesSN

Published on Nov. 11, 2015


1. I don’t want to get on a soapbox, but …

Somehow, some way, we’ve reached this point again. Another third-string quarterback, another sudden and surprising championship run.

If you thought what Ohio State accomplished last season with a third-string quarterback was as improbable as it was unthinkable, get a load at what’s unfolding in South Bend.

Not only is Notre Dame surging with a third-stringer at the most important position on the field, the Irish have developed into the only team that can beat Alabama because of it.

“We’re not even close to our peak yet,” says DeShone Kizer. “We just know there’s something that’s very special that can be unleashed.”

So says the sophomore quarterback who began spring practice third on the depth chart, a mere afterthought in an offseason of quarterback competition between Malik Zaire and Everett Golson.

Then Zaire won the starting job and Golson transferred and Zaire broke his leg in the second game of the season — and the next thing you know, Kizer, the guy with all of one career throw, was forced into a game and heaved a perfectly thrown dew drop of a deep ball in the waning seconds to beat Virginia.

Just like Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly drew it up, right?

“This game is about adjusting,” Kelly said. “No matter what gets thrown at you.”

That’s exactly what Kizer and the Irish have done, persevering through six key season-ending injuries to starters and/or key contributors and finding ways to get better each week. But for a two-point loss on the road to the nation’s No. 1-ranked team in a driving rainstorm — on a failed two-point conversion to end the game — guess who would be No. 1 right now in the College Football Playoff poll?

The same team that has the best chance to beat Alabama — because of a third-string quarterback and a group of talented receivers. After stumbling early this fall, the Tide have clearly become the team to beat, despite significant problems defending the pass.

Ohio State exposed Alabama’s secondary in last year’s CFP semifinal — then-third string QB Cardale Jones and a handful of key throws won that game; not Ezekiel Elliott’s running — and Notre Dame looks poised to do the same if it can win out (Wake Forest, Boston College, at Stanford) and reach the CFP.

Now that Baylor QB Seth Russell is out for the season; now that TCU and QB Trevone Boykin are out of the playoff picture, who among the contenders has a legitimate chance to push the Tide defense with a dangerous passing game and — key point here — an offensive line that can protect?

Only one team: Notre Dame.

“He’s beginning to do some things — his pocket presence, moving around, his escapability — that he hasn’t done all year,” Kelly said of Kizer. “He growing quickly.”

So is the Irish offense. Case in point: last week’s game at Pitt, against one of the game’s better defenses and a guy who knows how to stop offenses (Panthers coach Pat Narduzzi), ND’s scoring drives lasted 75, 75, 70, 75, 50 and 62 yards.

The game is slowing down for Kizer, he’s learning to move in the pocket and wait scant, critical seconds while the back end of defenses open up, and his ability to go through progressions and make quick reads is gaining momentum. No one in the game throws a better deep ball, and no one has been able to cover Irish wideout Will Fuller (20.5 ypc, 12 TD), who consistently outruns bracket coverage from safeties.

“DeShone is putting the ball out there perfectly for me,” Fuller said. “The chemistry is going to continue to get better between us.”

And the Irish are going to get harder to beat, all the way to the College Football Playoff.

. . .
 

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When Malik went down in the VA game, I recall BK telling Malik and his family that this was HIS team and it would be waiting for him when he returned healthy next year. I want to say there was footage of this in the Showtime series and/or the ICON videos, but I'm not certain where I saw it. Anyone else remember BK saying this?

My prediction: There will be a "QB competition", but we will start next season with co-starters. I have confidence BK and Sanford can manage a two-QB system.
 

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When Malik went down in the VA game, I recall BK telling Malik and his family that this was HIS team and it would be waiting for him when he returned healthy next year. I want to say there was footage of this in the Showtime series and/or the ICON videos, but I'm not certain where I saw it. Anyone else remember BK saying this?

My prediction: There will be a "QB competition", but we will start next season with co-starters. I have confidence BK and Sanford can manage a two-QB system.

Yes, it was on Showtime series.
 
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When Malik went down in the VA game, I recall BK telling Malik and his family that this was HIS team and it would be waiting for him when he returned healthy next year. I want to say there was footage of this in the Showtime series and/or the ICON videos, but I'm not certain where I saw it. Anyone else remember BK saying this?

My prediction: There will be a "QB competition", but we will start next season with co-starters. I have confidence BK and Sanford can manage a two-QB system.

Yes. BK most definitely said that.
 
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