'13 PA OT Mike McGlinchey (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

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He's a mauler, I'd move him back to RT. I think that's where he could best serve.

[EDIT] D-BOE-34 beat me to it.
 

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He's a mauler, I'd move him back to RT. I think that's where he could best serve.

[EDIT] D-BOE-34 beat me to it.

It's an interesting thought but I doubt this is under serious consideration. Would anyone be ready to take over @ LT? Liam or Kraemer seem like the only possibilities. I doubt Bars would be viable as he struggled a little at RT and talk is about him maybe even moving to RG.

Liam/Kraemer - Q - Mustipher/Hoge - Bars - McG?

Not the craziest scenario even if unlikely.
 

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Plenty of ways to mix up the OL. I'm excited to see how they split them up for the Blue/Gold game


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They aren't moving McG back to right side unless someone shows elite pass-rushing ability on the defensive side in practice, and that person is then stone-walled in every rapid-fire pass-rush drill by someone not named McG.

He's just a step too slow kicking back at times. Can it be fixed with another offseason of technician work with Harry? We'll see haha
 

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Coming from a Big Mike supporter, I'm just not sure he's got the athleticism we want at the position. He's big and physical, and he's good for the run game, but pass blocking is more about finesse and agility. He did very well on the other side, I say put him in the best position for both him to succeed as well as the OL. I'd try one of the others out and see how they fare before committing Mike back to LT.
 

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Coming from a Big Mike supporter, I'm just not sure he's got the athleticism we want at the position. He's big and physical, and he's good for the run game, but pass blocking is more about finesse and agility. He did very well on the other side, I say put him in the best position for both him to succeed as well as the OL. I'd try one of the others out and see how they fare before committing Mike back to LT.

he'd be totally fine in a pro style offense at LT but when Kelly is calling pass plays and are stuck in 3rd and long's all the time its never gonna suit him. I'd like to see him move back to RT personally. He'll never be a NFL LT so what's the point in keeping him there.
 
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The reason Mikes numbers 'dropped,' (Did anyone check the veracity of the original statement?) may well be irrelevant.
  • Dose anyone know the performance of each population, over the two years in question, to determine whether they hold any validity.
  • Can anyone compare the offense from 2015 to the offense of 2016, particularly after it has also been made clear that with the dramatic rise in sacks, to 28 in 2016, most feel the bulk of the increase were a result of DK holding the ball too long, trying to make things happen?
  • Does anyone else remember than McG graded out higher than Ronnie did in 2015, so one would expect a significant drop for a first year starter at left tackle.
  • And has anyone figured out end, wr, and running back play as it affected blocking.
  • And you all remember these raw numbers don't take into account changes in the offense, blocking schemes, etc.,?

I almost have myself convinced there is going to be a big change in blocking assignments this season. If there is, I would expect the whole lines efficiency to increase stratospherically. Big Mike or any LT currently at ND is the biggest loser with the ND blocking scheme for Kelly's spread. No linemen's footwork leads defenders to the ball quicker than the left tackles. A good defensive coach can teach his players to show up at the ball in millisecond by cuing of ND's offensive linemen's footwork.
 

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The reason Mikes numbers 'dropped,' (Did anyone check the veracity of the original statement?) may well be irrelevant.
  • Dose anyone know the performance of each population, over the two years in question, to determine whether they hold any validity.
  • Can anyone compare the offense from 2015 to the offense of 2016, particularly after it has also been made clear that with the dramatic rise in sacks, to 28 in 2016, most feel the bulk of the increase were a result of DK holding the ball too long, trying to make things happen?
  • Does anyone else remember than McG graded out higher than Ronnie did in 2015, so one would expect a significant drop for a first year starter at left tackle.
  • And has anyone figured out end, wr, and running back play as it affected blocking.
  • And you all remember these raw numbers don't take into account changes in the offense, blocking schemes, etc.,?

I almost have myself convinced there is going to be a big change in blocking assignments this season. If there is, I would expect the whole lines efficiency to increase stratospherically. Big Mike or any LT currently at ND is the biggest loser with the ND blocking scheme for Kelly's spread. No linemen's footwork leads defenders to the ball quicker than the left tackles. A good defensive coach can teach his players to show up at the ball in millisecond by cuing of ND's offensive linemen's footwork.

I think you may be over-thinking things, Bogs.

Mike just isn't elite at handling the other team's best pass rusher. He's not bad by any means, but he's a bit slower and less efficient in dropping into his pass pro than what we saw from ZMart and Ronnie. His false start penalties are a big indicator of that.
 
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We will see.

Last year remember, Ronnie specialized in false starts!
 

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We will see.

Last year remember, Ronnie specialized in false starts!

This is true.

Perhaps another summer working on the kick-back step under Harry's scrutiny will even things out, and Mike can go from "Mauler with Okay Feet" to "Mauler with Beautiful Feet"
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With size, strength & growing experience, Notre Dame’s McGlinchey is 1 of top OTs in '18 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash">#NFLDraft</a>, by <a href="https://twitter.com/greggabe">@greggabe</a>: <a href="https://t.co/oNLbMrdSeO">https://t.co/oNLbMrdSeO</a></p>— Pro Football Weekly (@PFWeekly) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFWeekly/status/871738492015050752">June 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Scouting report for the OL gurus that like breakdown specifics.


Throughout the summer, National Scout Jon Ledyard, Assistant Director Joe Marino and Scouting Director Kyle Crabbs will be conducting summer assessments on 99 notable senior prospects. Of these 99 seniors, the 33 most prominent will be covered by all three analysts.

Of the remaining 66, each of the three analysts has “drafted” 22 of them to scout exclusively.

This serves as the foundation for our 2018 draft assessments.

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Biography

Scout: Joe Marino

Name: Mike McGlinchey

Position: Offensive Tackle

Number: 68

College: Notre Dame

High School: Williams Penn Charter (Pennsylvania)

Listed Measures

Height: 6-8

Weight: 312

Experience/Production

Games Played: 38

Games Started: 25

Production: Not applicable for offensive lineman

Accolades

High School: Played offense, defense and basketball in high school. All-State, All-District and All-Conference as a senior.

College: Team captain and 2016 Third Team All-American.

Film Assessment

Strengths: Plays with precise timing to execute his assignments in concert with the play concept. Anticipates stunts/blitzes and stymies them. Works his hips into position to square up and seal defenders.

Smooth, balanced pass blocker who plays from a firm base. Blocks with good posture and foot quickness to mirror rushers. Times and locates his punch effectively to stun rushers and dictate reps. Handles speed rushers effectively by challenging landmarks and using his length to steer them past the quarterback. Often the aggressor when pass blocking which speak to his confidence.

Effective worker in space and has a good hit rate. Plays under control and anticipates defensive flow to seal at the second level. Squares up and initiates contact at a high level.

Creates movement as a run blocker with leverage and power. Entire body functions in unison to maximize his power. Excellent hip roll that stems from power in the lower half. Works his hand fits to maintain inside positioning and control reps.

Weaknesses: Could stand to be more deliberate with his hands early in reps to avoid defensive lineman from challenging his chest plate. Will occasionally over-extend himself and get his head too far in front of his feet.

Summary: Notre Dame left tackle McGlinchey would have challenged to be the first offensive lineman drafted and first round selection if he would have declared for the 2017 NFL Draft. To the delight of Notre Dame and their fans, McGlinchey returned to South Bend and provides the Irish a devastating pair of blockers on the left side with fellow senior Quenton Nelson.

McGlinchey has an ideal frame and desired length to become a blindside protector in the NFL. His smooth feet and natural movements kills translate perfectly to today’s game.

A balanced player, McGlinchey excels in all facets of blocking. His technique is consistently sound, play strength is outstanding and football intelligence is apparent.

If he stays healthy, McGlinchey should enter the NFL with nearly 40 collegiate starts under his belt. His experience, physical attributes and blocking ability have the makeup of a decade starter at left tackle in the NFL.

Predicted Value Range: First Round Range


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NDTPremium?src=hash">#NDTPremium</a> | Notre Dame OT Mike McGlinchey Senior Assessment via <a href="https://twitter.com/TheJoeMarino">@TheJoeMarino</a> <a href="https://t.co/061ZM3na1t">https://t.co/061ZM3na1t</a></p>— NDT Scouting LLC (@NDTScoutingLLC) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDTScoutingLLC/status/876114717395243008">June 17, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Yep.

There's one apparently confusing thing about the piece: the intro says that the 33 most prominent will be scouted by all three analysts, but the subsequent data lists just Marino as the scout. Surely McGlinchey, from both what we know and from the data/opinions posted, is among that top 33, so listing just the one scout is confusing. I have to interpret that as merely some form of administrative goof-up.
 

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Yep.

There's one apparently confusing thing about the piece: the intro says that the 33 most prominent will be scouted by all three analysts, but the subsequent data lists just Marino as the scout. Surely McGlinchey, from both what we know and from the data/opinions posted, is among that top 33, so listing just the one scout is confusing. I have to interpret that as merely some form of administrative goof-up.

Think they mean all 33 will be evaluated by one of the three.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I made my McGlinchey player projection free so you can get a glimpse of the type of stuff you can get daily at BGI: <a href="https://t.co/L9YwGBZLMm">https://t.co/L9YwGBZLMm</a></p>— Bryan Driskell (@BGI_CoachD) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_CoachD/status/887375722712625153">July 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...nd-in-top-20-but-only-two-are-top-five-picks/

2. San Francisco 49ers (2-14)
Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame: Count me among those that expect Kirk Cousins to join Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco after the 2017 season. If that happens, the 49ers will be poised to trade down and continue working to rebuild their roster with a ton of draft capital. If they stay in the top five, grabbing a top-rated offensive tackle to pair with Joe Staley, who himself is 32, makes a lot of sense.
 

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Hmm, I really doubt a Guard goes in the top 5; it's just too uncommon. Now if you switched those around, I'd like the pairing a whole lot. Castonzo is a fine LT and Big Mike would be good at RT in the NFL. I suspect he could play some LT, but I don't think he'll be a Ronnie Stanley. Worst case scenario for him is a long career as a swing tackle, but even if he's seen as a RT, teams will take him high. Look at Conklin from the 2016 draft.

Q would more than replace Zeitler in Cincy and guards always slip further than their play dictates. Hell, I remember David Decastro was considered as perfect of a guard prospect in a generation, and he still slipped into the 20s (thanks Emery)
 

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Hmm, I really doubt a Guard goes in the top 5; it's just too uncommon. Now if you switched those around, I'd like the pairing a whole lot. Castonzo is a fine LT and Big Mike would be good at RT in the NFL. I suspect he could play some LT, but I don't think he'll be a Ronnie Stanley. Worst case scenario for him is a long career as a swing tackle, but even if he's seen as a RT, teams will take him high. Look at Conklin from the 2016 draft.

Q would more than replace Zeitler in Cincy and guards always slip further than their play dictates. Hell, I remember David Decastro was considered as perfect of a guard prospect in a generation, and he still slipped into the 20s (thanks Emery)

The Bengals let Zeitler go to the Browns because they refuse to pay top dollar for interior OL (as does a majority of the league). As Bengals fans have seen this year, that was a huge mistake... they should've paid him his money. But, regardless, the Bengals definitely won't go interior OL that high in the draft.

As for the projection that they take Mike McGlinchey... I doubt it. They need a quality pass-protector at LT, and that's not Mike. He has the same issues that have resulted in Obueghi and Fisher both struggling.
 

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Hmm, I really doubt a Guard goes in the top 5; it's just too uncommon. Now if you switched those around, I'd like the pairing a whole lot. Castonzo is a fine LT and Big Mike would be good at RT in the NFL. I suspect he could play some LT, but I don't think he'll be a Ronnie Stanley. Worst case scenario for him is a long career as a swing tackle, but even if he's seen as a RT, teams will take him high. Look at Conklin from the 2016 draft.

Q would more than replace Zeitler in Cincy and guards always slip further than their play dictates. Hell, I remember David Decastro was considered as perfect of a guard prospect in a generation, and he still slipped into the 20s (thanks Emery)


Man, I hated that McClellin pick. So much. Chandler Jones was right there too.
 

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Man, I hated that McClellin pick. So much. Chandler Jones was right there too.

I personally blame Jeremy Mincey. He was going to sign with the Bears in free agency and be the 4th DE, but reneged at the last moment to stay in Jacksonville. That butterfly flapping its wings led to no Decastro (at least we got Long), wasting a 1st, and the inevitable collapse due to the line being undermanned down the stretch.
 

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I don't see a problem if anyone takes Q with a high pick.

He's coming from the same OL factory as Zach Martin and teams take notice of that.

Given that Zach is one of, if not, the best interior lineman in the NFL and just got a big payday I can see teams may think Q will/could do the same for their team.
 

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Right with you Bery. Zach showed what one great OLineman can do whether it's guard tackle or center
 

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Hmm, I really doubt a Guard goes in the top 5; it's just too uncommon. Now if you switched those around, I'd like the pairing a whole lot. Castonzo is a fine LT and Big Mike would be good at RT in the NFL. I suspect he could play some LT, but I don't think he'll be a Ronnie Stanley. Worst case scenario for him is a long career as a swing tackle, but even if he's seen as a RT, teams will take him high. Look at Conklin from the 2016 draft.

Q would more than replace Zeitler in Cincy and guards always slip further than their play dictates. Hell, I remember David Decastro was considered as perfect of a guard prospect in a generation, and he still slipped into the 20s (thanks Emery)

We talking about the same guy? Castonzo is decent, but I don't think he's that good. I always felt he's better suited for RT.

Would love to see the Colts take Nelson. Slide Newhart to RG and with Keely back at C, the Colts finally have the makings of a decent o-line. Not great, but decent.
 

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We talking about the same guy? Castonzo is decent, but I don't think he's that good. I always felt he's better suited for RT.

Would love to see the Colts take Nelson. Slide Newhart to RG and with Keely back at C, the Colts finally have the makings of a decent o-line. Not great, but decent.

Castonzo is fine. He's not going to be a Pro Bowler, but he can give you enough where LT isn't an immediate need. If you can upgrade? Perfect. If you can't, no need to worry about it yet. Just gotta make sure that you plan for it eventually, because once those guys start slipping they become huge liabilities.
 
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