Bang Bang Notre Dame Gang - No New Recruits

Who'saWildManNow

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Good Lord. Im sorry I am not one to say whats right and wrong but if you think your "recruiting" kids by tweeting then your a fool. Please leave it to the staff aka Brian Kelly and Co.

In reality it depends on your generation, as to what level, if at all, this disturbs you. I'm 31 and find myself not completely appalled by fans who tweet recruits but certainly uncomfortable and ultimately in disagreement with it.

I do believe while society adapts to technology and vice versa this will eventually be looked at as "normal" and inevitably impression-less (as the recruits themselves grow to know only that way ((isn't that part of evolution)).

We're not the only ones transitioning to this new era of recruiting.
Before Internet, Recruiting News Came 90 Cents Per Minute
 

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I was asked to post these. These guys are annoying. Yep, it's totally one random fan that is getting these guys, not the coaches and the University.
 
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Small and Grubl think there Booker and Alford. Its my goal to burn this group to the ground.
 
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I have a certain hate for some of those clowns in that group. I won't name names. I think Beau and TP know who they are. But good lord.
 

Who'saWildManNow

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It's only going to get worse. After Tee left there was someone immediately ready to start a new page in the event Bang Bang was closed.

I think not allowing recruits to be a part of it is the best we will get. I've fought with probably every delusional, ignorant fan in there.. It's like spitting gas on the fire.
 

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Small and Grubl think there Booker and Alford. Its my goal to burn this group to the ground.

Seriously. My god is there a dumber group of ND fans on the planet? What a black smear on our favorite teams name. It sincerely upsets me to see such utter stupidity exercised to the point seen in that group. No wonder Kelly wants no recruits dealing with it. Great that it was a group created by Tee, but now he doesn't even go here and the group is ridiculous. Sorry, rant over.
 

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I was asked to post these. These guys are annoying. Yep, it's totally one random fan that is getting these guys, not the coaches and the University.

The crazy thing is that these are but two clowns in the overgrown circus that is that group. The level of incompetence... Ugh. The first clowns run on sentence is the perfect microcosm for the entire group. Im with you GB, burn it to the ground!
 

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The crazy thing is that these are but two clowns in the overgrown circus that is that group. The level of incompetence... Ugh. The first clowns run on sentence is the perfect microcosm for the entire group. Im with you GB, burn it to the ground!

Let's all hope and pray ND recruits NEVER come on IE then!
 

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In reality it depends on your generation, as to what level, if at all, this disturbs you. I'm 31 and find myself not completely appalled by fans who tweet recruits but certainly uncomfortable and ultimately in disagreement with it.

I do believe while society adapts to technology and vice versa this will eventually be looked at as "normal" and inevitably impression-less (as the recruits themselves grow to know only that way ((isn't that part of evolution)).

We're not the only ones transitioning to this new era of recruiting.
Before Internet, Recruiting News Came 90 Cents Per Minute

Whether you're 13, 31, or 103, you need to work on your reading comprehension and try responding to what TPO said, now what you though he said. He didn't comment on technology. He commented on fans contacting recruits!

He message is simple and sound:
FANS TRYING TO CONTACT PROSPECTS TO RECRUIT (REGARDLESS OF MEDIUM) ARE FOOLS - LEAVE IT TO THE COACHING PROFESSIONALS.

Here's his quote again.

Good Lord. Im sorry I am not one to say whats right and wrong but if you think your "recruiting" kids by tweeting then your a fool. Please leave it to the staff aka Brian Kelly and Co.

The article you posted about the internet and call lines actually is irrelevant as it refers to reporting services contacting recruits NOT fans calling, texting, tweeting, IMing, or prospects.
 

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I wonder if these guys know that they're becoming as disliked as NDNation.
 

Who'saWildManNow

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Whether you're 13, 31, or 103, you need to work on your reading comprehension and try responding to what TPO said, now what you though he said. He didn't comment on technology. He commented on fans contacting recruits!

He message is simple and sound:
FANS TRYING TO CONTACT PROSPECTS TO RECRUIT (REGARDLESS OF MEDIUM) ARE FOOLS - LEAVE IT TO THE COACHING PROFESSIONALS.

Here's his quote again.



The article you posted about the internet and call lines actually is irrelevant as it refers to reporting services contacting recruits NOT fans calling, texting, tweeting, IMing, or prospects.

I actually agreed with what TPO said and only expanded on the topic, relevantly. Do you have a problem with me talking about technology and recruiting as a whole in relation to TP's comment?

You, as your personality on IE, seem to have no problem elaborating on nearly every topic, yet you call me out on "comprehension" when I expand on one sentence from TPO.

You are better than that.
 
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I actually agreed with what TPO said and only expanded on the topic, relevantly. Do you have a problem with me talking about technology and recruiting as a whole in relation to TP's comment?

You, as your personality on IE, seem to have no problem elaborating on nearly every topic, yet you call me out on "comprehension" when I expand on one sentence from TPO.

You are better than that.

Once again TPO addressed fans being fools for trying to recruit.

It's not about generational acceptance, social mores, evolution, or society adapting to technology. Fans FOLLOW recruiting, they don't recruit. In the article you linked fans were not contacting prospects by 800 or 900 numbers, now they do. This isn't about technology. It's not about changing the salesmen's tool (technology). It's about changing the salesmen. School do not want "fans", be they well intentioned true fans or malicious trolls contacting prospects and urinating in the soup.

The NCAA regs which are compiled by its member organizations through the Rules Committee and the school's voting on prosposed regulations restrict recruiting to the head coach and the 9 assistant (position) coaches certified by the NCAA to recruit. The Director of Player Personnel who makes the travel arrangements for official visits, expedites videos, transcripts, etc can't recruit nor can the strength coach can't recruit and they're professionals.

Fans contacting prospects to recruit are either fools or provocateurs.


I elaborate on nearly every topic? There are thousands of threads I've never commented on here and quite a few that I don't even read. I average 6 posts a day, some posters here average 15 posts a day. Some of my posts can be hundreds of words while others are only a couple of words. The topics are usually the same. I post mainly in ND Football and ND Recruiting. Looking at the last 100 threads in each of those two forums, I've got posts in about 35% of the ND football threads and 25% of the recruiting threads. Hardly every topic, is it?
 

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Once again TPO addressed fans being fools for trying to recruit.

It's not about generational acceptance, social mores, evolution, or society adapting to technology. Fans FOLLOW recruiting, they don't recruit. In the article you linked fans were not contacting prospects by 800 or 900 numbers, now they do. This isn't about technology. It's not about changing the salesmen's tool (technology). It's about changing the salesmen. School do not want "fans", be they well intentioned true fans or malicious trolls contacting prospects and urinating in the soup.

The NCAA regs which are compiled by its member organizations through the Rules Committee and the school's voting on prosposed regulations restrict recruiting to the head coach and the 9 assistant (position) coaches certified by the NCAA to recruit. The Director of Player Personnel who makes the travel arrangements for official visits, expedites videos, transcripts, etc can't recruit nor can the strength coach can't recruit and they're professionals.

Fans contacting prospects to recruit are either fools or provocateurs.


I elaborate on nearly every topic? There are thousands of threads I've never commented on here and quite a few that I don't even read. I average 6 posts a day, some posters here average 15 posts a day. Some of my posts can be hundreds of words while others are only a couple of words. The topics are usually the same. I post mainly in ND Football and ND Recruiting. Looking at the last 100 threads in each of those two forums, I've got posts in about 35% of the ND football threads and 25% of the recruiting threads. Hardly every topic, is it?

In your words, let me say it again. I agreed with TOPs statement, you can now cease with the reiterating.

My expansion on the topic IS about generational acceptance, social norms, evolution and technology. The future recruits growing up now will not know recruiting life before Twitter. They will encounter fans recruiting them, whether it be in appropriate fashion or not and it will not seem as wrong to them as it does to TPO, you or myself. It's happening before your very eyes.

A fan reaching out to a recruit through social media, with the intent of recruiting, will never seem right to me but I'm sure a teenager 10 years from now will venture to argue otherwise.

I will always believe fans should remain clear of the inner circle of recruiting but with the emergence of paid sites, Facebook, Twitter and whatever the next intrusive media outlet becomes, I do not think it will be that way.

So to wrap it up for you:

1) I agreed with TPOs statement.

2) I further expanded with my own thoughts. How dare I.

3) I respect everyone on here for the most part, including you, but you missed my point.

Are you finished?
 
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You can legally never get a group like that shutdown. Freedom of speech. The best that can happen is if recruits flat out don't join the group. There is nothing anybody can do about it. As frustrating as it is, there is nothing they are doing that is illegal nor immoral.

This new generation of recruits are an impressionable bunch. Fact is, they like the attention (Jimmy Clausen and his HOF) and they really don't mind fans tweeting or Facebooking at them as long as it's a simple good luck, nice job, go Irish, etc. These kids love to be wanted and shown the red carpet. We all know that.

With all that said, to think that you are the reason somebody is committing to a university is beyond mind boggling and utterly ridiculous. You are so far removed from reality that it is so very sad.
 
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Bogtrotter07

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What is the "gangs" name? Do they use "Notre Dame" or "Irish", or any trade marked or portion of a trade marked logo? If so there is an immediate grounds to shut them down. Also, if a group appears to be, or looks to much like an organization or entity they can be shut down. Recently, a Chinese knockoff of A&F was downed. Cultural miscues in their advertising gave them away; otherwise some people thought they were buying from Abercrombie & Fitch. Check that out.
 
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What is the "gangs" name? Do they use "Notre Dame" or "Irish", or any trade marked or portion of a trade marked logo? If so there is an immediate grounds to shut them down. Also, if a group appears to be, or looks to much like an organization or entity they can be shut down. Recently, a Chinese knockoff of A&F was downed. Cultural miscues in their advertising gave them away; otherwise some people thought they were buying from Abercrombie & Fitch. Check that out.

That's a tough stretch in my opinion. I don't think you can make the argument that they are using Notre Dame as a commercial product and trying to sell goods with Notre Dame on it. Facebook allows users to create fan pages and such. Now, I am not on Facebook and haven't been on in a long time so I couldn't tell you what the page looks like but would be tough.

I really wish it would go away though.
 
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Bogtrotter07

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I am no expert, but in this case I am not sure it is a commercial issue. I believe goodwill encompases more than just simple issues of commerce.
 
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Grahambo

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I am no expert, but in this case I am not sure it is a commercial issue. I believe goodwill encompases more than just simple issues of commerce.

In this instance, I hope I am wrong. I would imagine BK would have had it shutdown by now if they could.
 

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Grubl getting worse: "Today I tweet the number 1 corner Vernon Hargervous 'Notre Dame Nation would love to have you' he favorited it and retweeted it, hopefully that means he is interested in visiting?"

I bet Grubl has a rep among the recruits not interested as "that annoying nd fan"
 

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I imagine the people on the Bang Bang Group are the same morons who write the articles for Bleacher Report!
 

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Facebook is stupid. And is exactly the reason why I deactivated my account.
 
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