For All Parents and Prospective ND Applicants...

Rack Em

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I know Notre Dame recently mailed their letters to all applicants for the Class of 2016 so I felt this was an appropriate time for this thread. Notre Dame prospectives and their parents are often looking for even the slightest bit of information that could vault their, or their son or daughter's, application into the lucky category of admitted students. Unfortunately I don't have the magic recipe to get admitted into Notre Dame, but I'm gonna lay it all out there. Here it goes...

5 years ago, about this time, I knew my letter from ND would be arriving at my house. I anxiously awaited that day for years; I also dreaded it just as much. I had based my entire life around this football team, the academics, and its Catholic identity. It defined who I was and I loved everything about it. In my mind, my self-worth was attached to this letter. I equated acceptance to Notre Dame with validation of my life. On the flip side, I saw rejection as a sign that my life, to that point, had been an utter failure. I was my own worst enemy.

I was 7 the first time I graced this magical campus in South Bend. I have very few memories from being that age, but my first Notre Dame football game is as vivid as any I've ever had. I can distinctly remember walking out of the stadium, holding my father's hand, donning my #3 Ron Powlus jersey after Notre Dame dropped a game to Air Force. The following afternoon after arriving home, as my mother was cleaning the kitchen, she asked me about the trip. I obliged and recounted the adventure I shared with my dad, my grandfather, 3 of my uncles, and my 2 oldest cousins. At the end of our conversation I told her I was going to college when I got older. Slightly taken aback, she responded "Son, I'm proud of you. That's a noble goal." I cut her off mid sentence and said "No mom, you didn't let me finish. I'm going to Notre Dame."

I knew toward the latter part of high school that my activities and volunteer work would put me in the highest ranks of ND applicants. However my grades and ACT score would be borderline. It wasn't for a lack of trying: I took the ACT 5 times and the SAT once. Never could I crack a 31 (or the SAT equivalent). I held on to hope that something in my application file would set me apart from the other Class of 2011 applicants. Unfortunately, the admissions committee didn't find it.

I skipped out of my study hall the day that letter arrived. I knew when the mailman delivered to our house and I fully intended to be waiting on him. As I saw him pull next to the mailbox, my heart sunk and I felt violently ill: the time had come. That walk down the driveway was the longest of my life. I clung to every ounce of hope I had as I reached for the mail. It was a small envelope. I knew nothing good came from small envelopes.

Everything I worked for, the highest goal I had set in life, was crushed. My life was in shambles and I was an emotional wreck the entire day. I did my best to put on a "happy face" the rest of the day but I just felt cold and lifeless. This, however, was the best day of my life.

The next day I mustered up the little bit of courage and self-respect I had left and went to the admissions department's website. Not graduating from Notre Dame wasn't an option I was willing to entertain. I researched everything I needed to know about transferring. I accepted a scholarship from St. Louis University (the only other school to which I applied) and enrolled in classes that matched up with my intended major at Notre Dame. I stayed in frequent contact with the admissions department through the course of my freshmen year at SLU to make sure I set myself up as well as possible to transfer. I busted my tail that year and frequently stayed in on the weekends to do homework. I submitted my transfer application in April and updated it in May with a 3.88 GPA in essentially the same classes as a Math major at Notre Dame. Additionally, I traveled an hour and a half each way 4 days a week during the summer to take a calculus-based physics course.

While driving back from class one day I received a call from a "574" area code. I panicked. I knew it was from Notre Dame and that transfer letters had been mailed. It was the director of transfer admissions. I had been accepted. Redemption never felt so good. The weight I had placed on my shoulders for 11 years was finally gone.

The day I was rejected ended up being the best day of my life because it meant I would become part of the greatest group of Notre Dame students: the transfers.

That said, congratulations to those accepted into the Class of 2016. To those who were waitlisted, continue to let Notre Dame know how passionate you are about this great University and how much of a dream it is to go there. And for those of you who did not get accepted, work hard and persevere if Notre Dame is something you truly want. You have the wonderful opportunity of being part of the most welcoming, tight-knit subculture at Notre Dame, the transfers.

Go Irish,
Rack Em
 
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HereComeTheIrish

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I kid brah... That's wonderful. Congratulations and make all of us "dreamers" proud. I know you will.

If only in a dream...

We Are, ND
 

RallySonsOfND

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Seriously, getting into Notre Dame is a crapshoot. Buddy of mine graduated from a catholic school, above 4.0 GPA, played sports, had extra-curricular activities, was a legacy (dad was a monogram winner) and didn't get in. I chose to not apply for undergrad and if I decide to do an MBA it will be on the list for that.
 

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Congrats bro.

Well my brother applied there this year. I am praying he gets in. I was a slacker in high school and enjoyed partying on the weekends rather than focusing on school. Terrible decision.





Now I live in a van down by the river.
 
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HereComeTheIrish

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Congrats bro.

Well my brother applied there this year. I am praying he gets in. I was a slacker in high school and enjoyed partying on the weekends rather than focusing on school. Terrible decision.

Now I live in a van down by the river.
Fantastic...

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I hope you changed out of that shirt before attending your first class. Well done young Rack Em.
 

MNIrish14

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Great story. I wish everyone here had an attitude like yours. Way too many students take this university for granted and act like they are bigger than it
 

IrishLax

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And then there is that other kid who had a Notre Dame acceptance letter in hand and opted for Houston :)
 
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Reps.

I was a bit of a slacker myself in high school despite being a pretty good athlete. ND was always my dream and although I will never be able to say I graduated from ND, I will just live vicariously through my son!

The path I eventually took to adulthood turned out to be a pretty damn good one.
 

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Looks like ND Admissions made a 40 year mistake that your focus got corrected. Well done!
 

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REPS! My 12 yo and i are getting ready to start the journey. It will start the fall with our first trip to SB.
 

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I'm on the waitlist for ND Law. I don't know if I'll get in. But the bigger problem for me is what will happen to me if I do get in. It's a lot of money and I've been accepted to a couple of comparable schools that are giving me scholarships (and are much cheaper in the first place). I've always dreamed of going to ND (like most on this site), but I'm terrified of being in debt for the rest of my life. However, if I did say no I would probably feel more terrible about it than anything else in life. I know this sounds like bitching about a good situation, and I realize I sound like a sh!t. But it's all I've been thinking about for the last six weeks.
 

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You just get used to the debt, bro. It becomes like fog and rain in the Pacific northwest.

Seriously though, you'll make the money back.
 

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Great attitude, great result, great post!
 
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DomeisourHome

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Thanks for posting this. I was just wait-listed so I really could've used some motivation. I was devasated a couple of days ago when I found out. I didn't leave the house the whole weekend and just was frustrated and sad I didn't get in. Now I am praying ALOT and showing tons of interest so hopefully if they take students off the waitlist it will be me.
 

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I'm on the waitlist for ND Law. I don't know if I'll get in. But the bigger problem for me is what will happen to me if I do get in. It's a lot of money and I've been accepted to a couple of comparable schools that are giving me scholarships (and are much cheaper in the first place). I've always dreamed of going to ND (like most on this site), but I'm terrified of being in debt for the rest of my life. However, if I did say no I would probably feel more terrible about it than anything else in life. I know this sounds like bitching about a good situation, and I realize I sound like a sh!t. But it's all I've been thinking about for the last six weeks.

Hammer, I'll just tell you that I'm a 2011 law school grad and I was in a similar position four years ago. I took the scholarship, and for me it was definitely the right choice. Law school is not the safe economic bet that it used to be, and I'd be nervous if I had a heavy debt burden right now. Nothing prevents you from being an ND fan, whether you go to law school there or not. Feel free to PM me if you want advice.

Thanks for posting this. I was just wait-listed so I really could've used some motivation. I was devasated a couple of days ago when I found out. I didn't leave the house the whole weekend and just was frustrated and sad I didn't get in. Now I am praying ALOT and showing tons of interest so hopefully if they take students off the waitlist it will be me.

Dome, stay positive and it will work out. I knew plenty of people at ND who got in off the waitlist and I have a number of close friends who transferred in. Even if you have to go the transfer route, it will only make your ND experience more rewarding in that when you eventually enroll at ND you'll be instantly connected not only with the people in your dorm but also with the "transfer subculture" that RackEm mentioned. It's all good.
 

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I'm on the waitlist for ND Law. I don't know if I'll get in. But the bigger problem for me is what will happen to me if I do get in. It's a lot of money and I've been accepted to a couple of comparable schools that are giving me scholarships (and are much cheaper in the first place). I've always dreamed of going to ND (like most on this site), but I'm terrified of being in debt for the rest of my life. However, if I did say no I would probably feel more terrible about it than anything else in life. I know this sounds like bitching about a good situation, and I realize I sound like a sh!t. But it's all I've been thinking about for the last six weeks.

Lot of lawyers/law students in this thread, but if you wanna talk employment prospects from law schools, shoot me a PM.
 

Rack Em

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Dome, stay positive and it will work out. I knew plenty of people at ND who got in off the waitlist and I have a number of close friends who transferred in. Even if you have to go the transfer route, it will only make your ND experience more rewarding in that when you eventually enroll at ND you'll be instantly connected not only with the people in your dorm but also with the "transfer subculture" that RackEm mentioned. It's all good.

Spot on. Hang in there man and work hard.
 
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