Again, I am not denying that he lied, not denying that he should be punished. I am saying that the crime and cover up does not demand the harshness of penalty. This has been my stance from the beginning. So what is your point exactly?
What? Dude, I linked the freaking' article for everyone to read themselves. I quoted it exactly how it was written. I didn't post it trying to play it off as Goodell said that quote. The part you are quoting isn't even in quotations in the excerpt. If someone was confused, they could read the article that I specifically linked for them. Just because you read it that way, doesn't mean that I had an intent to deceive anybody. Furthermore, by the fact that it isn't in quotations, the proper way to read it is that it is not part of the quote. Don't blame your lack of reading comprehension on me and act like I am trying to deceive people. That's a real **** move, dude.
In the article, Goodell clearly states that Belichik planned to tell the public about what he did. When Belichick deflected blame, Goodell said that he felt "deceived".
Obviously not well, since you are trying to act like I am trying to deceive people with my posts. I am fine with disagreeing with you and have been able to disagree peacefully with everyone else in this thread but you. Accusing me of trying to deceive everyone went over the line though. You can **** off as far as I'm concerned.
How do you not know what my point is?....I have stated it numerous times.......
My point is, and I feel a lot of people agree with me on this, is that he was making an example out of someone who is supposed to be viewed as a leader of a team. Some one who is supposed to personify character and integrity, yet he was warned by his head office that an investigation was pending and he still covered it up. If he doesn't lie about it, he doesn't miss next season.........
FORGET about Belichick, because I know you can say the same about him (I fu**ing hate the guy personally) the point is he didn't LIE
during the investigation, he cooperated the entire time and then afterwords he satisfied Goodell enough with his public statement that he
wasn't punished further for it. Besides, this happened 5 years ago so it's really not that relevant. I said nothing more than what other posters brought up on the matter.
I feel bad that everyone keeps picking on you and I get that your frustrated because there are very few that are on your side and everyone is
"pointing their fingers" at you, but you just keep bringing it on your self. A lot of your argument doesn't make sense to me anymore. You say you understand that Payton lied and covered up what he was responsible for and that you understand that he is being made an example of but you think the punishment is to harsh? You still have not said (unless I missed it) what you think a sufficient punishment would be, one that would make every team say "oh sh*t! were not doing that anymore and were definitely not going to lie to the commish". It had to be that harsh because he has made it clear that there will be NO tolerance for those kinds of actions.
I agree with you (I believe you said it earlier in the thread) that they need use better helmets and mandate the usage of better mouthpiece's that are available. Frankly, IDK how some of those guys play without one and should be at least warned, then flagged.
Now onto our "personal beef", I believe I was being civil until your last post when you put words in my mouth and insulted my reading comprehension. I told you I wasn't attacking you, just explaining the other side of the story, but you just don't seem to get it.
Again with the mocking of my reading comprehension? Obviously I knew you added that on, that's why I called you out on it.......The point I'm trying to make about your quote is that you could have
easily put what you wrote outside of the quote box and nothing would have been said about it (other than deceive does not mean lied to). My point with doing so was that maybe some one is on their phone checking this thread out and isn't able to see the article (which happens a lot), but they see the excerpt you pulled from the article and it says "Belichick lied" right inside your quote box and they think that it was said in the article (which was never said) and again if Goodell felt that Belichick lied to him, he would have said lied not deceived and would have punished Belichick further for not meeting his expectations. So I feel completely justified in calling you out on that one.
Sorry if I offended you or accused you for something you didn't
intend, but I thought it was enough to note and I hope I made my reasoning clear. I see that your a veteran on this board and you post a lot of info, and I have read a lot of your posts in other threads and I appreciate the incite you bring, but that doesn't mean I'm going to back away from an argument. I don't post a lot but that doesn't mean that idk what I'm talking about. At least we will always have one thing in common......Notre Dame Football!
