'12 OH OT Taylor Decker (Ohio State Verbal)

[BeauBenken]

Just wondering...what if Decker ends up pulling a Prestwood? lol

 

[IrishinSyria]

Decker is a good player and would have been a nice piece of this class, but losing him certainly doesn't cripple the program. I don't even think I would want the type of kid that would choose a school like Ohio State over Notre Dame. They can't all be ND type of kids.

I think the bigger thing to me is why nobody can seem to say "no" to Urban. The guy is a pretty good coach, but he owes much of his success to Tim Tebow. If he doesn't come up with another Tebow his persuasiveness might be short-lived. It's strange to me that a guy can so obviously be a weasel and still manage to charm trick so many kids and adults into making poor decisions. I wish I could happen upon Urban right after his heart finally explodes so that I can be the first to tell him "no" when he asks me to call an ambulance.

Alex Smith and Chris Leach say "hi".

As for this decommit... it doesn't kill the program, but it certainly isn't good either. Especially along the lines, it's never a good thing when you're relying on one kid. What you want is a big pool of talent that can battle it out in practice, lift together, eat together and then be ready to get plugged in when they're juniors or seniors...ND still has a long way to go before it gets to that type of depth, and every commit counts.

 

[stlnd01]

Yeah, Urban Meyer's a bit more than Tim Tebow. He's a good football coach. An ******* slimeball I wouldn't trust for ten feet. But a good football coach.

As for Mr. Decker, it sucks to lose him. But I keep coming back to the fact that he's an Ohio kid who always wanted to play at OSU and just now got offered a scholarship. I can see why he'd flip. It's always been tough to pull kids OSU wants out of Ohio.

 

[fitz_bu47]

Kids, are kids. They pull this $hit....but, F-Warinner, and Hinton.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Well, I know I will at least be decked out in Notre Dame gear for class tomorrow at Ohio State.

Go Irish!

 

[gkIrish]

Well, I know I will at least be decked out in Notre Dame gear for class tomorrow at Ohio State.

Go Irish!

We don't have class?

 

[palinurus]

The only way I could hate Ohio State more than I do is if they were to hire a sleazy SEC coach, steal two of our coaches, and flip one of our good recruits.

 

[magogian]

A major reason Decker gave for his decommitment was that Notre Dame does not have his preferred Major. He wants to major in sports medicine/exercise science. Lolz.

High school gym coach after he graduates?

 

[NYMIKE6]

A major reason Decker gave for his decommitment was that Notre Dame does not have his preferred Major. He wants to major in sports medicine/exercise science. Lolz.

High school gym coach after he graduates?

Heard he's headed towards

Two-facism 109
Slimery 313
Inked 189

Pretty sure he started some of those classes.....

Kidding..... or am I???

 

[Patulski]

Alex Smith and Chris Leach say "hi".

As for this decommit... it doesn't kill the program, but it certainly isn't good either. Especially along the lines, it's never a good thing when you're relying on one kid. What you want is a big pool of talent that can battle it out in practice, lift together, eat together and then be ready to get plugged in when they're juniors or seniors...ND still has a long way to go before it gets to that type of depth, and every commit counts.

Yeah, because we all know a decommit before Signing Day is always the last word. You must have a crystal ball.

 

[magogian]

Just wondering...what if Decker ends up pulling a Prestwood? lol

I hope not. He deserves OSU.

 

[rtrn2glory]

anybody left on the board we got a chance of poaching like urban did?

 

[Buster Bluth]

We don't have class?

Sorry I forgot the [i.] [/i.].

I don't even have class on Mondays haha

 

[anarin]

Alex Smith and Chris Leach say "hi".

As for this decommit... it doesn't kill the program, but it certainly isn't good either. Especially along the lines, it's never a good thing when you're relying on one kid. What you want is a big pool of talent that can battle it out in practice, lift together, eat together and then be ready to get plugged in when they're juniors or seniors...ND still has a long way to go before it gets to that type of depth, and every commit counts.

who is chris leach?

 

[Rocky2820]

A major reason Decker gave for his decommitment was that Notre Dame does not have his preferred Major. He wants to major in sports medicine/exercise science. Lolz.

High school gym coach after he graduates?

Either that's total BS, or what the **** was he thinking when he originally committed to ND? While I don't like it, I'm actually ok with 17 year old kids changing their minds, especially when conditions change such as what happened in Decker's case. But please just be straight up about why you want out.

 

[NYIrish14]

OSU dismissed two players today. Hilarious reading OSU boards, they think Meyer is laying down the law when in reality he's cutting players to make room for some recruits. Here's a sample post:

Sad this had to happen but I'm glad Urban layed down the law. Now everyone will know that he's serious about discipline.

Found that quote very funny considering it was posted by a former poster here on IE by the name of Urban Meyer. Im sure you guys remember him.

 

[OchoShayneO]

A major reason Decker gave for his decommitment was that Notre Dame does not have his preferred Major. He wants to major in sports medicine/exercise science. Lolz.

High school gym coach after he graduates?

What's wrong with being a gym teacher or a coach Brah?

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Honestly, I envy teachers.. Rewarding job with summers off.. sweet

Hopefully, we'll see Ohio State in a big game some time soon, whether it be a bowl game or a "playoff"...

 

[irishfanjho15]

who is chris leach?

Chris Leak, and lets be honest he didn't have an all world year when they won NC.

 

[NDMontana]

As I have said before, this is my first year of heavily following recruiting and it's become clear that verbal commitments are not something to which any value can be ascribed. I don't think Decker is a liar or a bad guy, but I do think that 17 or 18 year old kids love what's new and sexy. I often wonder if the best recruiting teams in the country choose to show interest, but not too much, wait until a kid has verbally committed, give it time so that the excitement wears off and then swoop in.
This is not to say that these teams don't show interest and call but, unless they know the kid is a lock and it's his dream to play at their school, it seems they lie in the weeds and wait to pounce. I could be way off base.

I also think that on occassion kids commit in order to generate more interest or perhaps--I heard a kid once say (can't remember if he was a football or basketball recruit)--that he committed to a ridiculous university just to get some people off of his back so that he could he have a fun senior year and enjoy his social life. He committed elsewhere later and made clear that he never once intended to attend the university to which he verbally committed.
In some respects I wish the NCAA would either disallow verbals or allow kids to sign sooner--make them show they are serious by putting pen to paper.
I think, despite what we all hoped, we knew that this would happen. Anytime you have a recruit locked in this long who starts making OVs at this late date, you don't have a recruit locked in anymore.
I feel the same way about Decker as I did about Kiel: I don't wish him bad luck....I just don't care what happens to him. Four year All America caliber player or fout year back-up....doesn't matter to me.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

As I have said before, this is my first year of heavily following recruiting and it's become clear that verbal commitments are not something to which any value can be ascribed. I don't think Decker is a liar or a bad guy, but I do think that 17 or 18 year old kids love what's new and sexy. I often wonder if the best recruiting teams in the country choose to show interest, but not too much, wait until a kid has verbally committed, give it time so that the excitement wears off and then swoop in.
This is not to say that these teams don't show interest and call but, unless they know the kid is a lock and it's his dream to play at their school, it seems they lie in the weeds and wait to pounce. I could be way off base.

I also think that on occassion kids commit in order to generate more interest or perhaps--I heard a kid once say (can't remember if he was a football or basketball recruit)--that he committed to a ridiculous university just to get some people off of his back so that he could he have a fun senior year and enjoy his social life. He committed elsewhere later and made clear that he never once intended to attend the university to which he verbally committed.
In some respects I wish the NCAA would either disallow verbals or allow kids to sign sooner--make them show they are serious by putting pen to paper.
I think, despite what we all hoped, we knew that this would happen. Anytime you have a recruit locked in this long who starts making OVs at this late date, you don't have a recruit locked in anymore.
I feel the same way about Decker as I did about Kiel: I don't wish him bad luck....I just don't care what happens to him. Four year All America caliber player or fout year back-up....doesn't matter to me.

why aren't we swooping in and pouncing on kids committed to other schools? Redmond is someone I think we might be, but I don't hear us going after many others committed to other schools

 

[phork]

why aren't we swooping in and pouncing on kids committed to other schools? Redmond is someone I think we might be, but I don't hear us going after many others committed to other schools

Maybe we are and just don't have the clout to pull the flip?

 

[NDMontana]

why aren't we swooping in and pouncing on kids committed to other schools? Redmond is someone I think we might be, but I don't hear us going after many others committed to other schools

Whose to say the staff is not? I don't get the sense that are because I'm not sure that Kelly has caught on just yet to how the best of the best do things but I am not sure of that.
If Kelly hasn't caught on yet, he will quickly, I have no doubt. Of course given the climate in Indiana, though it is no big secret, I would think it is preferable to get kids from temeprate climates out to campus in August, September or early October. I am sure Armond Armstead is probably there tonight thinking that it is as cold as hell, imagining himself spending three or four months year in a northern Indiana winter is probably not something he will rave about.

 

[CincyDamer]

Whose to say the staff is not? I don't get the sense that are because I'm not sure that Kelly has caught on just yet to how the best of the best do things but I am not sure of that.
If Kelly hasn't caught on yet, he will quickly, I have no doubt. Of course given the climate in Indiana, though it is no big secret, I would think it is preferable to get kids from temeprate climates out to campus in August, September or early October. I am sure Armond Armstead is probably there tonight thinking that it is as cold as hell, imagining himself spending three or four months year in a northern Indiana winter is probably not something he will rave about.

Or maybe he is thinking about the 40 yr old decision... since hes had medical issues. Or how ND is a player or 2 away from being a BCS contender. Or possible upset at how SUC treated him and wants to stick it to them. The climate excuse is merely that, an excuse. ND isn't for everyone, but using the weather as an out is weak sauce.

Sry NDMontana... just a pet peeve of mine

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Chris Leak, and lets be honest he didn't have an all world year when they won NC.

Nonsense. Leak was a terrific college QB who brought a lot more to the table than just talent.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Whose to say the staff is not? I don't get the sense that are because I'm not sure that Kelly has caught on just yet to how the best of the best do things but I am not sure of that.
If Kelly hasn't caught on yet, he will quickly, I have no doubt. Of course given the climate in Indiana, though it is no big secret, I would think it is preferable to get kids from temeprate climates out to campus in August, September or early October. I am sure Armond Armstead is probably there tonight thinking that it is as cold as hell, imagining himself spending three or four months year in a northern Indiana winter is probably not something he will rave about.

it's not exactly rocket science.. you see other programs poaching your kids and getting them to flip.. do it to them

 

[NDinL.A.]

why aren't we swooping in and pouncing on kids committed to other schools? Redmond is someone I think we might be, but I don't hear us going after many others committed to other schools

Then play closer attention:

Aaron Lynch (FSU)
Jarron Jones (PSU)
Everett Golson (UNC)
Chase Hounshell (Florida)
Nick Martin (Kentucky)
Stephon Tuitt (back to ND from Georgia Tech)
Austin Collinsworth (Stanford)
Kona Schwenke (BYU)
Tate Nichols (Stanford)

Do you get the point? This staff is not shy about going after committed kids. Poole, Westerkamp, Redmond, etc etc etc.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Then play closer attention:

Aaron Lynch (FSU)
Jarron Jones (PSU)
Everett Golson (UNC)
Chase Hounshell (Florida)
Nick Martin (Kentucky)
Stephon Tuitt (back to ND from Georgia Tech)
Austin Collinsworth (Stanford)
Kona Schwenke (BYU)
Tate Nichols (Stanford)

Do you get the point? This staff is not shy about going after committed kids. Poole, Westerkamp, Redmond, etc etc etc.

fair enough.. was hoping someone with more experience could provide some examples.. thanks (it is a small list though, maybe Kelly needs to step his game up, or maybe not, to each his own)

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

fair enough.. was hoping someone with more experience could provide some examples.. thanks (it is a small list though, maybe Kelly needs to step his game up, or maybe not, to each his own)

A small list? That's 10 kids in two years... plus the likes of Prestwood and now Carlisle.

 

[Rhode Irish]

fair enough.. was hoping someone with more experience could provide some examples.. thanks (it is a small list though, maybe Kelly needs to step his game up, or maybe not, to each his own)

Um...WHAT?