'12 MD ATH Ronald Darby (Florida State Signee)

[Chicago Irish Fan]

For the love of God, I'm not saying I agree with him, I'm actually saying the opposite. I was just commenting towards the people who asked for the ban.

I'm fully aware that you do not agree with him. My point is that if someone essentially says that it is a sure thing that we do not get a recruit that is currently committed to us just because he is taking a visit elsewhere, there is strong reason to believe he is a troll. But whatever, I don't really feel like continuing this conversation.

 

[gspjeb]

not overly worried as he has stated many times that he is solid. Putting myself in the shoes of a young man whose skills are so sought after..I understand why he wants to take all expense paid trips to schools he has probably followed his whole life. In the end Notre Dame is just too good of a fit for him based on the academics and football combination that he is looking for.

I believe he will remain Irish.

 

[koonja]

If anyone has a scout.com subscription, there's an article about Darby up:

Scout.com: Scout Recruiting Forums List

 

[OCIrish]

Darby has repeatedly stated from the start, that he fully intended to take all of his OV's, and I, for one am happy that he is. This is a huge decision for any young man, as well as getting a weekend trip to what my brother in law has told me is a very beautiful campus. He's been solid in his commitment to the Irish, and for the life of me, I'm not sure why in the hell everybody gets soo worked up over recruiting.

 

[NDinL.A.]

He's gone. I'm convinced he does not want to be at ND. When he commits to Clemson or USC I will not be surprised.

I'm just pessimistic, I always felt there was a chance he would go elsewhere.

There's a chance that all our guys can go elsewhere. This is not the first ND recruit you've said that about. But that's typical for an OSU fan. But stop throwing your opinion around as fact as you won't be met with so much resistance.

I'll defend Urbie this time, since he was the first to call Ronnie Stanley a ND lock and he turned out to be right.

He 'called that' after ISD had already came out with it and Rivals as well. He wasn't right with crap, unless you consider regurgitating what people (who really are in the know) say is calling your shot.

Sorry, you're right, he thinks Darby will go elsewhere. Ban him.

It's just an opinion. I think Darby is all Irish, for the record.

See, it's not an opinion when you state it as fact. He stated it as fact. And how does he know it's a fact? He doesn't. He's just a troll in disguise. His first post was straight off the bat a negative one, he's talked sh!t about ND players when Clausen was here, he's made fun of our coach, etc etc. He just throws in enough "Go Irish" sayings and "we need this guy" posts to have you fooled. I'm not fooled, but like Whiskey said, he's walking a fine line. Not gonna ban him, but that doesn't mean I won't call him out on his posts either.

Sorry guys, hope Darby signs with ND just like everybody else.

No you don't. WE really want Darby. OSU fans don't care as much b/c he isn't considering you guys.

 

[koonja]

There's a chance that all our guys can go elsewhere. This is not the first ND recruit you've said that about. But that's typical for an OSU fan. But stop throwing your opinion around as fact as you won't be met with so much resistance.



He 'called that' after ISD had already came out with it and Rivals as well. He wasn't right with crap, unless you consider regurgitating what people (who really are in the know) say is calling your shot.



See, it's not an opinion when you state it as fact. He stated it as fact. And how does he know it's a fact? He doesn't. He's just a troll in disguise. His first post was straight off the bat a negative one, he's talked sh!t about ND players when Clausen was here, he's made fun of our coach, etc etc. He just throws in enough "Go Irish" sayings and "we need this guy" posts to have you fooled. I'm not fooled, but like Whiskey said, he's walking a fine line. Not gonna ban him, but that doesn't mean I won't call him out on his posts either.



No you don't. WE really want Darby. OSU fans don't care as much b/c he isn't considering you guys.

 

[OCIrish]

Just made my night!!!

 

[Redbar]

There's a chance that all our guys can go elsewhere. This is not the first ND recruit you've said that about. But that's typical for an OSU fan. But stop throwing your opinion around as fact as you won't be met with so much resistance.



He 'called that' after ISD had already came out with it and Rivals as well. He wasn't right with crap, unless you consider regurgitating what people (who really are in the know) say is calling your shot.



See, it's not an opinion when you state it as fact. He stated it as fact. And how does he know it's a fact? He doesn't. He's just a troll in disguise. His first post was straight off the bat a negative one, he's talked sh!t about ND players when Clausen was here, he's made fun of our coach, etc etc. He just throws in enough "Go Irish" sayings and "we need this guy" posts to have you fooled. I'm not fooled, but like Whiskey said, he's walking a fine line. Not gonna ban him, but that doesn't mean I won't call him out on his posts either.



No you don't. WE really want Darby. OSU fans don't care as much b/c he isn't considering you guys.

Here! Here!

 

[JDAtlanta]

If I predict the sun will rise tomorrow, will you have a soft spot for me too? We've lead for Stanley for months, and his commitment during or following soon after his recent visit was almost universally expected.

Urb's a troll. He's here to instigate. If his handle isn't a dead giveaway, take a look at what we're doing now. He's successfully trolled this thread.

You nailed it. Just look at his past posts. He's as much of an ND fan as I am of snakes. "I hate snakes."

 

[stlnd01]

The thing that worries me about this kid is not that he's taking visits, but where.
Maryland, I get. Home state school and all. But Auburn and Clemson? They're not quite elite programs, not particularly close to home for him, not exactly world-class universities, not schools Notre Dame normally competes with for recruits. The fact that these are the places he's visiting (as opposed to, say, Florida or Michigan or USC - the sort of schools we're always battling because we have something in common with them) make me a little concerned that's not so serious about a place like Notre Dame.
But, we'll see.

 

[Irishnuke]

The thing that worries me about this kid is not that he's taking visits, but where.
Maryland, I get. Home state school and all. But Auburn and Clemson? They're not quite elite programs, not particularly close to home for him, not exactly world-class universities, not schools Notre Dame normally competes with for recruits. The fact that these are the places he's visiting (as opposed to, say, Florida or Michigan or USC - the sort of schools we're always battling because we have something in common with them) make me a little concerned that's not so serious about a place like Notre Dame.
But, we'll see.

I don't know if you're new to college football, but Auburn won the national championship last year. I would say that qualifies as "elite." I also don't understand how him visiting Auburn or Clemson makes him less serious about ND than if he visited Michigan or USC. Really confused by this comment...

 

[SoJerseyIrish]

Darby might just not like the fact ND is trying to still pull in more DB's. He might want to go somewhere that isn't taking 5-6 DB's this year, maybe he is concerned with seeing the field early.

Just an opinion.....no fact to this.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Darby might just not like the fact ND is trying to still pull in more DB's. He might want to go somewhere that isn't taking 5-6 DB's this year, maybe he is concerned with seeing the field early.

Just an opinion.....no fact to this.

Darby wants to play CB, and that's the position ND is recruiting him to play, so let's consider our CB depth.

ND has the most inviting depth chart in the BCS. We'll only have 4 CBs on scholarship once the seniors/ 5Ys move on, and none of them was rated higher than a 3. I doubt Darby can find a better opportunity for early play time at any other competitive school.

If you want to include the 2012 recruits, there's only one other CB currently, who is generally not rated as highly as Darby. Why would our four 3 S recruits scare him off?

 

[Chamellion]

Darby wants to play CB, and that's the position ND is recruiting him to play, so let's consider our CB depth.

ND has the most inviting depth chart in the BCS. We'll only have 4 CBs on scholarship once the seniors/ 5Ys move on, and none of them was rated higher than a 3. I doubt Darby can find a better opportunity for early play time at any other competitive school.

If you want to include the 2012 recruits, there's only one other CB currently, who is generally not rated as highly as Darby. Why would our four 3 S recruits scare him off?

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Scout, they're both five stars, and Darby is #1 while Tee is #4. Rivals has the same type of rating, with Darby a few spots higher. 24/7 has Tee 20 or so spots higher. ESPN has Darby rated 81, Tee 80.

They're just about the same in rating level. Darby is faster. Tee has the length and, according to what I've read, natural cover ability over on Darby.

Tee is enrolling early, Darby isn't. That gives him a leg up in terms of fitness and practice reps. Jalen Brown (I believe that is his name) is a stud, according to Mike Floyd, who he covered all year in practice. Maybe he wants to start right away, and these other places are promising that, for example he's looking at Clemson, who started Sammy Watkins from day one. So he's looking around. Not scared by the depth chart, but just interested in places that he could start right away.

What we need to do is to ensure that he knows that if he comes in and plays like a stud, like Lynch was this year, he'll have his playing time and a chance to challenge for the starting position.

Also, been said before and will stay true, looking around is not the same as losing interest in the program. I would want to take paid visits to warm campuses with beautiful women.

 

[irishog77]

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Scout, they're both five stars, and Darby is #1 while Tee is #4. Rivals has the same type of rating, with Darby a few spots higher. 24/7 has Tee 20 or so spots higher. ESPN has Darby rated 81, Tee 80.

They're just about the same in rating level. Darby is faster. Tee has the length and, according to what I've read, natural cover ability over on Darby.

Tee is enrolling early, Darby isn't. That gives him a leg up in terms of fitness and practice reps. Jalen Brown (I believe that is his name) is a stud, according to Mike Floyd, who he covered all year in practice. Maybe he wants to start right away, and these other places are promising that, for example he's looking at Clemson, who started Sammy Watkins from day one. So he's looking around. Not scared by the depth chart, but just interested in places that he could start right away.

What we need to do is to ensure that he knows that if he comes in and plays like a stud, like Lynch was this year, he'll have his playing time and a chance to challenge for the starting position.

Also, been said before and will stay true, looking around is not the same as losing interest in the program. I would want to take paid visits to warm campuses with beautiful women.

I get what you're saying. CB though, at any program, is one tough nut to crack as far as starting day 1 as a true freshman goes. Especially for a non-EE. Other programs may be feeding him that line, but I think most Corners know the reality of the situation in the back of their minds.

 

[AdmiralBackhand]

Tee dropped in rating on some of the recruiting sites because he wasn't able to be evaluated in his senior year. Both Darby and Tee are going to be great in my mind though.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Scout, they're both five stars, and Darby is #1 while Tee is #4. Rivals has the same type of rating, with Darby a few spots higher. 24/7 has Tee 20 or so spots higher. ESPN has Darby rated 81, Tee 80.

They're just about the same in rating level. Darby is faster. Tee has the length and, according to what I've read, natural cover ability over on Darby.

Tee is enrolling early, Darby isn't. That gives him a leg up in terms of fitness and practice reps. Jalen Brown (I believe that is his name) is a stud, according to Mike Floyd, who he covered all year in practice. Maybe he wants to start right away, and these other places are promising that, for example he's looking at Clemson, who started Sammy Watkins from day one. So he's looking around. Not scared by the depth chart, but just interested in places that he could start right away.

What we need to do is to ensure that he knows that if he comes in and plays like a stud, like Lynch was this year, he'll have his playing time and a chance to challenge for the starting position.

Also, been said before and will stay true, looking around is not the same as losing interest in the program. I would want to take paid visits to warm campuses with beautiful women.

I was simply responding to a concern that Darby might be turned off by the fact that we currently have 6 DBs verballed and at least one more likely before NSD. I was not making any predictions about whether Darby will see the field as CB in 2012 (ST maybe, but not at CB) or whether Tee's actually better.

In short, there's no reason to believe that Darby is uncomfortable with our depth chart or the other DBs currently verballed. If anything, that's a strength for ND.

 

[NYMIKE6]

I think the staff will find out really quick your not gonna keep Darby off the field. We haven't had speed like his in years. ST i can see him being a punt return specialist. Even though Tee is an EE he might need more time just because he didn't play this past season. Since Darby is not he will be running track so he will step on campus with wheels tuned up and ready to blaze.

 

[stlnd01]

I don't know if you're new to college football, but Auburn won the national championship last year. I would say that qualifies as "elite." I also don't understand how him visiting Auburn or Clemson makes him less serious about ND than if he visited Michigan or USC. Really confused by this comment...

Well aware that Auburn won the national championship last year, and I'm sure that helps with recruiting. They've also lost at least five games three of the last four years. They're notoriously up and down. And when it comes to exposure, resources, etc., they're not even the top program in their own small state. They're big league, no doubt, and have had a few very good years, but I don't think I'd put them in the top 15 or 20 programs in the country over time. And I'm not sure what they offer that Notre Dame doesn't (though I'm sure an Auburn fan could suggest a few things). Clemson, too.

Really, it just struck me as a bit unusual. Nelson Agholor deciding between us and Florida makes perfect sense. Deontay Greenberry taking a visit to USC, I get. But I don't tend to see Auburn and Clemson on the short lists of a lot of our recruits, especially ones who aren't from the south. We tend to get kids who want to graduate and stuff, and that seems like less of a priority there. Maybe he digs the coaches, or has friends there, or thinks the playing time situation might look better, I have no idea. Hopefully it's nothing but curiosity, because we could really use this kid.

 

[BeauBenken]

The thing that worries me about this kid is not that he's taking visits, but where.
Maryland, I get. Home state school and all. But Auburn and Clemson? They're not quite elite programs, not particularly close to home for him, not exactly world-class universities, not schools Notre Dame normally competes with for recruits. The fact that these are the places he's visiting (as opposed to, say, Florida or Michigan or USC - the sort of schools we're always battling because we have something in common with them) make me a little concerned that's not so serious about a place like Notre Dame.
But, we'll see.

He has had friends who have insisted he visit certain schools like UNC, Clemson, etc.

 

[NYMIKE6]

There just visits, theres a huge difference between:
Interest in playing and attending a school
Interest in just seeing the school

 

[tko]

i'm sure the bagman w/b lingering around.

 

[stlnd01]

He has had friends who have insisted he visit certain schools like UNC, Clemson, etc.

Ah. That makes sense.

 

[koonja]

Facebook status 10 hours ago after his visit with Clemson:

"Idk what im going to do? #pray on it"

Chris Brown replied: "Just holla at me bro , know you my brah"

 

[rtrn2glory]

coach kelly and the staff needs to visit asap

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

A change of heart is always possible but I think this is a situation where he "prays on it" and it all comes back to ND.

These kids are impressed fresh off campus visits every time no matter where they go. We've had his verbal for a long time now and for a number of solid reasons.

The coaches and fellow recruits will be right there to re-assure him of why he verballed in the first place.

Unfortunately, this is the nature of recruiting nationally at Notre Dame during an era of mediocrity. We should be so lucky that all these top notch kids are still recognizing and respecting the tradition, campus lore and prestige of attending ND.

It's not like Texas where the coaches can lock up the best recruiting class in the nation without leaving the state and then sit on their laurels with no worries of a de-commit.

Darby has all the info and im sure all the attention he needs. He made his 40 year decision once and I think it will all come back to that in the end.

 

[rtrn2glory]

still wouldn't hurt to go to maryland and have a quick chat after practice...bring the ipad on the private jet and watch some film and prepare on the way home. you'll be back in time for supper.

 

[IrishLax]

Wonder how much the idiots on facebook affected things.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Wonder how much the idiots on facebook affected things.

wow...is it really that bad? i don't have a facebook, nor do i desire to, but it must be really bad.

 

[NYMIKE6]

I really don't see the internet playing a big role in any kids recruitment....It's the sit and wait factor when they are committed to one school finishing up high school that period is dead for them so thats where it is very possible for other schools to sway them away intended school.