'12 CA CB Marcus Rios (UCLA Verbal)

[woolybug25]

It's no Catch 22. Verbal commitments aren't binding only the LOI is. ND offers (and other school's) are explicit that the scholarship is contingent on meeting the academic requirements. Every year some kids decide to cruise through their senior year or second semester senior year and don't get into their chosen school. I don't recall it happening at ND (kudos to Admission's Screening Process). I do recall a few like Aldo De La Garza who wanted ND badly and kept pluggin their senior year but didn't make it academically. ND chose others on NSD. There were two in Holtz's '95 class that he tried to slide through Admissions at the 11th hour. Both were reported by the services on NSD as in ND's Class but neither had cleared ND Admissions and NEVER did.

Marcus Rios isn't the first prospect to be told add a course, take one over and improve a grade, or retake and improve a Test score. Carson Palmer chose not to and took the easy route to Southern Cal. WR David Terrell verballed to ND but balked at academic improvement and flipped to UM. More power to Rios if he takes the tougher route and succeeds. The choice is his. This is one of life's character building moments for prospects, coaches, and administrators.

Buena suerte, Marcus!

I know that a verbal isn't binding. What I was getting at is what you addressed in your second paragraph. It would make me a bit worried if he was a verbal contingent on him passing a class that ended after signing day. The reason being, we would most likely miss out on other prospects because of the assumed ability of Rios filling it. If the language class ended up being too tough, then he could possibly go the route of Palmer or Terrell and leave us one CB short.

I know that if he verballed and started the foreign language class that he would most likely end up Irish, it just makes me nervous to get verbal commitments of kids that currently aren't eligible to attend the university.

We all remember Randy Moss, right?

 

[PANDFAN]

all coaches are on board w/ him getting an offer...it is strictly just on his test score so they can get his packet to admissions.....he is NOT visiting this weekend...he has 2 bowl games coming up and he has finals he is studying for...he will be visiting in Jan

 

[Rhode Irish]

I still really like Rios. I'm rooting for him to get his stuff squared away and come to ND. I like what he's about.

 

[rtrn2glory]

all coaches are on board w/ him getting an offer...it is strictly just on his test score so they can get his packet to admissions.....he is NOT visiting this weekend...he has 2 bowl games coming up and he has finals he is studying for...he will be visiting in Jan

great update...thanks for clarifying, hope it works out for him.

 

[PANDFAN]

ALSO: i asked when he will get his results...he is using a pay service the coaches told him to use which will expedite his scores...he will know by end of next week!!!

 

[Grahambo]

ALSO: i asked when he will get his results...he is using a pay service the coaches told him to use which will expedite his scores...he will know by end of next week!!!

What a great Xmas present! I really hope he comes through. Does he realize how much of the ND Nation is pulling for him?

 

[Grahambo]

BGIF..

So you're saying Ball Room Dancing is not a real class??

(Matt Leinart for those that don't get it.)

 

[PANDFAN]

What a great Xmas present! I really hope he comes through. Does he realize how much of the ND Nation is pulling for him?

i have shared several posts from people on here...he knows we are great crazy fans!!!

 

[Grahambo]

i have shared several posts from people on here...he knows we are great crazy fans!!!

To be clear, if he gets the result he needs this weekend, he could get his ND offer shortly thereafter?

 

[PANDFAN]

To be clear, if he gets the result he needs this weekend, he could get his ND offer shortly thereafter?

no, he is expecting to get his test scores by the end of NEXT WEEK...his offer is contigent upon that score being able to clear admissions...but he has a slot w/ his name on it!

 

[rtrn2glory]

sounds like a commit depending on test score?

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

To be clear, if he gets the result he needs this weekend, he could get his ND offer shortly thereafter?

Already confirmed he has been offered...it is just contingent on his score being where it needs to be.

 

[SirStrutsAlot]

this must be what BK was talking about when he said we will know who all the EE's will be by the end of next week?

 

[BeauBenken]

this must be what BK was talking about when he said we will know who all the EE's will be by the end of next week?

Rios won't be EE'ing. Anywhere.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Per Sapp he still has guys in front of him, ie it is not a committable offer until the other guys shake out.

 

[PANDFAN]

Per Sapp he still has guys in front of him, ie it is not a committable offer until the other guys shake out.

according to rios himself...this isn't the case..i asked him specifically

 

[magogian]

according to rios himself...this isn't the case..i asked him specifically

Hmm, I hope there wasn't a miscommunication between him and the staff. I hope the reporters got it wrong.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Per Sapp he still has guys in front of him, ie it is not a committable offer until the other guys shake out.

That doesn't make much sense. So he was "offered" subject to a double contingency? (1) If you score well on the ACT, AND (2) if all our other CB targets go elsewhere, you can commit.

That's hardly an offer at all.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

according to rios himself...this isn't the case..i asked him specifically

That doesn't make much sense. So he was "offered" subject to a double contingency? (1) If you score well on the ACT, AND (2) if all our other CB targets go elsewhere, you can commit.

That's hardly an offer at all.

Just reporting what I read fellas.

From a numbers standpoint, there are still a good amount of currently offered DBs on Notre Dame's radar, so how those situations shake out will be a factor on whether the Irish make a move on him.

 

[NYMIKE6]

Jr. and UCLA are warming up with Rios.

 

[PANDFAN]

Jr. and UCLA are warming up with Rios.

according to his dad it was music to his ears---he has made NO comments about ucla to me at all so i asked him about....we shall see

 

[rtrn2glory]

according to his dad it was music to his ears---he has made NO comments about ucla to me at all so i asked him about....we shall see

what was music to his ears? ucla being interested?

 

[PANDFAN]

what was music to his ears? ucla being interested?

mora calling them!!! plus they just snagged washington's db coach...hopefully he will confirm/deny but every convo has been about him wanting to go to ND because none of the other schools could offer both the academic/football that ND could. idk hopefully i can get more..ucla was very hot on him after he decommitted from boise st...but then he knew coach was going to be fired and at the time told me he wanted to have a good report w/ the coaches..however now that he isn't going to ee @ least at nd, neb etc that gives their coaches time to swoop on in and make him feel VERY wanted....BUT again we shall see...because on rivals or scouts page for neb..it said he was going to commit but it was because of the course he needed...he flat out told me...they were a plan B...so it all depends on who the person is writing for...much like the Brown family

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

mora calling them!!! plus they just snagged washington's db coach...hopefully he will confirm/deny but every convo has been about him wanting to go to ND because none of the other schools could offer both the academic/football that ND could. idk hopefully i can get more..ucla was very hot on him after he decommitted from boise st...but then he knew coach was going to be fired and at the time told me he wanted to have a good report w/ the coaches..however now that he isn't going to ee @ least at nd, neb etc that gives their coaches time to swoop on in and make him feel VERY wanted....BUT again we shall see...because on rivals or scouts page for neb..it said he was going to commit but it was because of the course he needed...he flat out told me...they were a plan B...so it all depends on who the person is writing for...much like the Brown family

Mora Jr is even more of a lunatic then his father but it appears he is surrounding himself with very good recruiters.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Mora Jr is even more of a lunatic then his father but it appears he is surrounding himself with very good recruiters.

I think he will do really well there. He has the personality and the genes. Plus, that place is starved for success and has some pretty good young talent. Should be interesting to watch.

 

[PANDFAN]

Mora Jr is even more of a lunatic then his father but it appears he is surrounding himself with very good recruiters.

plus he has nfl experience, still young and has ties to the pac 12 and la..so he knows the territory....

 

[irishog77]

plus he has nfl experience, still young and has ties to the pac 12 and la..so he knows the territory....

And he's coached DB's in the NFL as a secondary coach.

 

[PANDFAN]

Ok so here is the situation...mora called him 1st day on job and told.him how important he was to the bruins...so he said obviously they r in his backyard and he will listen to them as they were one of his favs...but ND is ND and he is impressed w how they dealt w him thus far and has no other roadblocks to his offer other than his test score...laughed basically about waiting for others...this was NOT at all discussed...they want him they said...I said again that he has to have a good relationship w head coach and his position coach which obviously he has just heard from him...in regards to his classes. He took Spanish for 3.years and had a and b....they just didn't offer a 4th at his school and same w the math class...he has a believe he said 3.0 gpa and all a and b through high school so it isn't anything on his end that he could.have.done

 

[DillonHall]

Ok so here is the situation...mora called him 1st day on job and told.him how important he was to the bruins...so he said obviously they r in his backyard and he will listen to them as they were one of his favs...but ND is ND and he is impressed w how they dealt w him thus far and has no other roadblocks to his offer other than his test score...laughed basically about waiting for others...this was NOT at all discussed...they want him they said...I said again that he has to have a good relationship w head coach and his position coach which obviously he has just heard from him...in regards to his classes. He took Spanish for 3.years and had a and b....they just didn't offer a 4th at his school and same w the math class...he has a believe he said 3.0 gpa and all a and b through high school so it isn't anything on his end that he could.have.done

I really hope he gets to come to ND

 

[rtrn2glory]

Ok so here is the situation...mora called him 1st day on job and told.him how important he was to the bruins...so he said obviously they r in his backyard and he will listen to them as they were one of his favs...but ND is ND and he is impressed w how they dealt w him thus far and has no other roadblocks to his offer other than his test score...laughed basically about waiting for others...this was NOT at all discussed...they want him they said...I said again that he has to have a good relationship w head coach and his position coach which obviously he has just heard from him...in regards to his classes. He took Spanish for 3.years and had a and b....they just didn't offer a 4th at his school and same w the math class...he has a believe he said 3.0 gpa and all a and b through high school so it isn't anything on his end that he could.have.done

great update...thanks a ton!!