'12 NJ CB Yuri Wright (Colorado Verbal)

[PANDFAN]

HUUUUUGE party school!!!!! lots of playing time...in the past they have put out some good DB'S

 

[Whiskeyjack]

UC-Boulder only graduates 52% of its black football players.

 

[koonja]

I think he goes to Michigan, sadly. Hopefully we can steal him on the 16th.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

HUUUUUGE party school!!!!! lots of playing time...in the past they have put out some good DB'S

Should have seen the place when Neuheisel and Barnett were running the place and recruiting kids lol.

 

[NDPhilly]

Now will either visit ND or Georgia next weekend.

 

[woolybug25]

I hope that for some reason he comes for a visit, falls in love with the place, and commits to ND.

If not, CU is not a bad choice for him. Whether they graduate a lot of african americans or not, it is a very solid academic school. It is also one of the most beautiful campuses I have ever been to. The weather is fantastic. The amount of beautiful females is silly, and most of all..... it''s not scUM.

 

[NDPhilly]

I feel fairly comfortable saying that by and large the Notre Dame fan base does care if their student athletes graduate.

I agree with this. Being a Notre Dame fan means more than rooting for them to win football games.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

No, it's the fact that you act like you care if this kid graduates or not. ND is not the only place a kid can be sucessful.

He's currently deciding where he'll receive the best compensation for his talents as a blue chip football recruit. The only (legal) pay he's being offered right now is a scholarship to various colleges with football programs.

Football players fail to graduate for a whole host of reasons: (1) got injured and cut from the team; (2) the school doesn't offer much in the way of academic support, so he had difficulty juggling school and football; (3) the school doesn't much care if its athletes go to class, so he naturally slacks off like the rest of his teammates, etc. All that stuff is reflected in a school's Football GSR. If a football player fails to graduate, he basically received nothing in return for his athletic talent.

There are exceptions to every rule. An especially self-motivated and disciplined player can succeed anywhere. Myron Rolle, for instance, was an Academic All-American at FSU, which is academically one of the worst schools in the BCS.

The point is this: Football GSR is a great reflection of which programs are actually compensating their athletes with a good education, and which ones are merely exploiting them. If I was the father of a black football recruit, I would absolutely care about whether my son graduates or not; GSR is important.

 

[irish4ever]

He's currently deciding where he'll receive the best compensation for his talents as a blue chip football recruit. The only (legal) pay he's being offered right now is a scholarship to various colleges with football programs.

Football players fail to graduate for a whole host of reasons: (1) got injured and cut from the team; (2) the school doesn't offer much in the way of academic support, so he had difficulty juggling school and football; (3) the school doesn't much care if its athletes go to class, so he naturally slacks off like the rest of his teammates, etc. All that stuff is reflected in a school's Football GSR. If a football player fails to graduate, he basically received nothing in return for his athletic talent.

There are exceptions to every rule. An especially self-motivated and disciplined player can succeed anywhere. Myron Rolle, for instance, was an Academic All-American at FSU, which is academically one of the worst schools in the BCS.

The point is this: Football GSR is a great reflection of which programs are actually compensating their athletes with a good education, and which ones are merely exploiting them. If I was the father of a black football recruit, I would absolutely care about whether my son graduates or not; GSR is important.

hence, that leads us to Notre Dame!!!

 

[phork]

UC-Boulder only graduates 52% of its black football players.

Guess what, I would say a lot of kids don't really care. They want to play, earn a ticket to the big show. Graduating is secondary to that end.

 

[BeauBenken]

Guess what, I would say a lot of kids don't really care. They want to play, earn a ticket to the big show. Graduating is secondary to that end.

They probably should though considering less than 1% of college football players end up going pro.

 

[rtrn2glory]

the article on rivals gives a much more different vibe than the article being advertised on our scout homepage. crazy how you get two different stories.

 

[ND NYC]

whiskey jack: well said
phork: i think you underestimate a lot of these kids they are more aware than i think we give them credit.

 

[woolybug25]

whiskey jack: well said
phork: i think you underestimate a lot of these kids they are more aware than i think we give them credit.

I don't think he is at all. I think phork as well as myself both agree with Whiskey that kids SHOULD care about these things, because college is indeed an investment in future earning potential. But the reality is that Phork is right. The proof is in the pudding. Players like KMarshall, Amir Carlisle, Anthony Barr, etc put ND into their top schools every year. They claim that education is their biggest factor. They talk freely about the opportunities that Notre Dame provides. Whiskey even forwarded the spreadsheat to Marshall if I remember correctly.

The reality is that these kid aren't picking their schools on grad rates or even what type of long term investment it is for their careers. They pick them off of the program, how they fit in with the players, atmosphere and coaching staffs. Each kid will have individual things they find important that they will sprinkle in with these, and the ones that truly care about education will weigh that with the items above.

If grad rates/ROI of degree was really that important to recruits, we would have the top class every year. But instead, the SEC and USC usually get those honors. That should tell you enough.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Here's a link to the article on II. I didn't see it posted anywhere in the thread. Not Premium info.

IrishIllustrated.com - Fast-rising Wright an Army All-American

 

[irishog77]

I don't think he is at all. I think phork as well as myself both agree with Whiskey that kids SHOULD care about these things, because college is indeed an investment in future earning potential. But the reality is that Phork is right. The proof is in the pudding. Players like KMarshall, Amir Carlisle, Anthony Barr, etc put ND into their top schools every year. They claim that education is their biggest factor. They talk freely about the opportunities that Notre Dame provides. Whiskey even forwarded the spreadsheat to Marshall if I remember correctly.

The reality is that these kid aren't picking their schools on grad rates or even what type of long term investment it is for their careers. They pick them off of the program, how they fit in with the players, atmosphere and coaching staffs. Each kid will have individual things they find important that they will sprinkle in with these, and the ones that truly care about education will weigh that with the items above.

If grad rates/ROI of degree was really that important to recruits, we would have the top class every year. But instead, the SEC and USC usually get those honors. That should tell you enough.

Amen. The quality of education, or even more precisely, the offer of an education at all isn't a driving force in many of these guys' decision. Of course they will say it is with their words, but not their actions. If this weren't the case, then why are there so many guys who don't graduate every year? Sure the coaches and universities as a whole at many places exploit this, but the kid and his family has the most culpability.

 

[irishff1014]

I don't think he is at all. I think phork as well as myself both agree with Whiskey that kids SHOULD care about these things, because college is indeed an investment in future earning potential. But the reality is that Phork is right. The proof is in the pudding. Players like KMarshall, Amir Carlisle, Anthony Barr, etc put ND into their top schools every year. They claim that education is their biggest factor. They talk freely about the opportunities that Notre Dame provides. Whiskey even forwarded the spreadsheat to Marshall if I remember correctly.

The reality is that these kid aren't picking their schools on grad rates or even what type of long term investment it is for their careers. They pick them off of the program, how they fit in with the players, atmosphere and coaching staffs. Each kid will have individual things they find important that they will sprinkle in with these, and the ones that truly care about education will weigh that with the items above.

If grad rates/ROI of degree was really that important to recruits, we would have the top class every year. But instead, the SEC and USC usually get those honors. That should tell you enough.

This is one of the best post i have read on here in a while.

 

[koonja]

You want top recruits? Just win baby.

 

[phork]

whiskey jack: well said
phork: i think you underestimate a lot of these kids they are more aware than i think we give them credit.

Nah I know just how most of these kids are. They have been pedestal'd their entire football life. They have an air of entitlement, and that only increases when the coaches of USC, Texas, Florida, ND, Mich are sitting in your front room slobbering all over you like you are the greatest thing ever and by coming to my school you'll be even better. Most of these kids are looking for early play time to showcase talents and bolt as soon as they are good enough to do so. I think ND is the oddity in this because kids who come to ND seem to value their education and therefore wish to complete it.

I am sure these other universities are fine institutions. The fact remains that ND is better than most every one of them. The other facts say we should be reeling these kids in like luring NDOM into your car with pot. We have early play time, Kelly has said as much about it, you are good enough you will play. We have a national schedule. ND is coast to coast on almost every TV every week. Did I mentioned the exclusive TV contract not with ESPN? Did I mention special clauses in the BCS, which will probably be taken out in the next BCS contract. We get paid $1million a year whether we finish 0-12 or 12-0, the BCS pays us because of who we were.

 

[IrishLax]

@YuriWright3 Yuri Wright just had the legendary Coach Kelly at my house what an honor it was to have him here....

Can't hurt, right?

 

[Riddickulous]

Tweeted:

just had the legendary Coach Kelly at my house what an honor it was to have him here.

Also said Colorado was "boring".

 

[woolybug25]

Tweeted:



Also said Colorado was "boring".

Boulder, CO is anything but boring. If he thinks Boulder is boring, then he is going to think South Bend is a horse pasture.

 

[magogian]

As long as he doesn't go to Michigan.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

lulz at all the skunkbear fans tweeting at him talking about how BK yells at players.

 

[calvegas04]

Tweeted:



Also said Colorado was "boring".

It is pretty boring

 

[PatsandBostonfan1975]

lulz at all the skunkbear fans tweeting at him talking about how BK yells at players.

Kelly yells cause he cares . Thats what my mom said about my dad anyway.

 

[IrishLax]

Really good article on 247... had 3 coaches by to visit him today (Kelly, Cooks, Diaco). Dad loves ND. Loves the academics. Loves graduation rate. Loves the spiritual side of things. Wide open race, fellas.

Other OVs planned include Michigan on the 13th of January and Georgia on the 20th of January. Wiiiiiiiiide open.

PS. Go Hokies, Beat Skunkbears!

 

[Chicago Irish Fan]

lulz at all the skunkbear fans tweeting at him talking about how BK yells at players.

Over at mgoblog there is a near unanimous consensus that BK is a lying, screaming, dictator. Some GVSU alum tried to defend him in a thread about Te'o returning, saying that he was beloved by the community at Grand Valley, but his comments got overwhelmingly downvoted and were labeled "flamebait".

 

[NDTampa]

Over at mgoblog there is a near unanimous consensus that BK is a lying, screaming, dictator. Some GVSU alum tried to defend him in a thread about Te'o returning, saying that he was beloved by the community at Grand Valley, but his comments got overwhelmingly downvoted and were labeled "flamebait".

If these comments were true, then why would Te'o, a consensus top 15 NFL pick, return for his senior season? He could make millions of dollars, but he chose to stay and play for Kelly and his teammates.

Obviously outsiders don't see Kelly's relationship with his players on a day to day basis. Recruits need only to speak with the current players to find out what Kelly and his staff are like.

scUM fans are delusional.

 

[rocket66]

Funny to hear stuff like that from UM fans. Would you rather have a coach who gets into the game or a coach who looks utterly clueless on the sidelines without headphones on not knowing the plays?