'12 IN QB Gunner Kiel (Cincinnati Transfer)

[BeauBenken]

Kap will be back. Depth is imperative.

Seriously, I know these incoming guys are going to be good but can anyone really think that if someone goes down that we will be perfectly fine starting freshman D-lineman? Not even Tuitt start starts.

 

[micks60]

It's a unofficial.

Unofficials still get free tickets! They get up to 5 tickets I think. At least last year they did. They get the full tour, presentation at the Guge, and are on the sidelines during pre game.
I think they even get a small bag lunch. I went on one last year with one of my players at ND for the UM game.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Then there's that...

I think it's the only way he's not back. Mr. Goodell has some pull. #moneytalks

 

[woolybug25]

KLM is a 300lb D-end that is a gap fitting machine. I know everyone loves Lynch and Tuitt but there is no way they will have the knowledge, experience, or leadership that Kap brings on that line.

Crist is a 6'4"/240 pound QB with a rocket arm. I know everyone loves Rees and the young guys but there is no way they will have the knowledge, experience or leadership that Dayne brings on that offense.


Again, totally agree with you dude. But I have a feeling about this one and we have seen crazier things happen. There are no guarantees in college football.

 

[johnnykillz]

Crist is a 6'4"/240 pound QB with a rocket arm. I know everyone loves Rees and the young guys but there is no way they will have the knowledge, experience or leadership that Dayne brings on that offense.


Again, totally agree with you dude. But I have a feeling about this one and we have seen crazier things happen. There are no guarantees in college football.

If Kap doesn't go pro, and wants to play again and doesn't come back, then it will be due to a magnificent plan no other people in the world besides the devil and Kelly have planned.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Crist is a 6'4"/240 pound QB with a rocket arm. I know everyone loves Rees and the young guys but there is no way they will have the knowledge, experience or leadership that Dayne brings on that offense.


Again, totally agree with you dude. But I have a feeling about this one and we have seen crazier things happen. There are no guarantees in college football.

lol except Dayne isn't the starter anymore... and can't make the intermediate throws... and cracks under pressure... and

 

[johnnykillz]

and

Has great hair.

 

[NotJayRock]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

he better at least go to ND after breaking 40k hearts

 

[woolybug25]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

he better at least go to ND after breaking 40k hearts

I hope IU never wins a game again and you get beat up by their waterboy.

 

[johnnykillz]

... after breaking 40k hearts

That's it?

Hell, he'll hump that many girls on his first official to Bama.

 

[IndyIrishFan1]

That's it?

Hell, he'll hump that many girls on his first official to Bama.

^Well done.

 

[Irish YJ]

All good points. I'm not saying that any or all of them (Cave, Slaughter, or KLM) will be gone. I'm just saying that depending on who bites, decisions will be hard. Consider this scenario. If you are down to 2 spaces, and you have 3 or 4 of the following saying yes.... Anglor, Marshal, Shaq, Theus, Banner, Treggs.... what then.

Depending on the situation, I can see Kelly passing on KLM or Cave.... especially if KLM is predicted to go in the first 3 rounds. If I'm KLM, I would get while the gettin's good as his playing time will lessen due to Lynch and Tuitt. Kelly and the other coaches have raved about Heggie, but I can see an OT/OG converted as well.

Again, not wishing any of these guys gone... but crazier things can happen. I think we'll see at least a couple transfers as well, hopefully making a situation like the above moot. Crist is likely gone. Wouldn't be supprised if Massa left too with the WRs in front of him. If GK joined, wouldn't doubt if Hendrix or Golson jumped.

 

[micks60]

Crist is a 6'4"/240 pound QB with a rocket arm. I know everyone loves Rees and the young guys but there is no way they will have the knowledge, experience or leadership that Dayne brings on that offense.


Again, totally agree with you dude. But I have a feeling about this one and we have seen crazier things happen. There are no guarantees in college football.

Dayne has leadership skills? Why hell has he never used them then? Go watch the USF game again.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Has great hair.

Bwahahahaha

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

All good points. I'm not saying that any or all of them (Cave, Slaughter, or KLM) will be gone. I'm just saying that depending on who bites, decisions will be hard. Consider this scenario. If you are down to 2 spaces, and you have 3 or 4 of the following saying yes.... Anglor, Marshal, Shaq, Theus, Banner, Treggs.... what then.

Depending on the situation, I can see Kelly passing on KLM or Cave.... especially if KLM is predicted to go in the first 3 rounds. If I'm KLM, I would get while the gettin's good as his playing time will lessen due to Lynch and Tuitt. Kelly and the other coaches have raved about Heggie, but I can see an OT/OG converted as well.

Again, not wishing any of these guys gone... but crazier things can happen. I think we'll see at least a couple transfers as well, hopefully making a situation like the above moot. Crist is likely gone. Wouldn't be supprised if Massa left too with the WRs in front of him. If GK joined, wouldn't doubt if Hendrix or Golson jumped.

If KLM is projected to go in the first three rounds it would be his decision to stay or go, not BK deciding for him. I also don't get that you are saying Kap may be good enough to be taken in the first 3 rounds of the draft but he is not good enough to get PT over Lynch and Tuitt?

Cave is argueably our first or second best lineman, I wouldn't take a chance on a guy who hasn't even seen the field yet becoming our new center.

Transfers are a definite possibilty so more positions could open.

 

[woolybug25]

Dayne has leadership skills? Why hell has he never used them then? Go watch the USF game again.

 

[Irish#1]

I just don't see Crist coming back. He's already #3 on the depth chart and will fall to #4 next year.

Cave should be back unless one of the younger OL's develops physically. A 19 or 20 year old rarely has the same strength as a 21 or 22 year old. When it comes to playing the OL strength is a big key for the run game.

I would say it's 50/50 on Kiel coming to South Bend right now. One thing in our favor is the proximity of South Bend to Columbus, IN. He eliminated Oklahoma because of the travel time for his parents to come and watch the games. Bama would be a longer drive then South Bend, but nothing like OU. The electricity tomorrow night with the new helmets, night game and all the other top recruits being on hand should help our chances. I would aslo expect him to attend the Bama/LSU game.

 

[irishfanjho15]

All good points. I'm not saying that any or all of them (Cave, Slaughter, or KLM) will be gone. I'm just saying that depending on who bites, decisions will be hard. Consider this scenario. If you are down to 2 spaces, and you have 3 or 4 of the following saying yes.... Anglor, Marshal, Shaq, Theus, Banner, Treggs.... what then.

Depending on the situation, I can see Kelly passing on KLM or Cave.... especially if KLM is predicted to go in the first 3 rounds. If I'm KLM, I would get while the gettin's good as his playing time will lessen due to Lynch and Tuitt. Kelly and the other coaches have raved about Heggie, but I can see an OT/OG converted as well.

Again, not wishing any of these guys gone... but crazier things can happen. I think we'll see at least a couple transfers as well, hopefully making a situation like the above moot. Crist is likely gone. Wouldn't be supprised if Massa left too with the WRs in front of him. If GK joined, wouldn't doubt if Hendrix or Golson jumped.

Hendrix is not going anywhere. He's pre-med. As has been pointed out before here at IE.

 

[irishfanjho15]

Dayne has leadership skills? Why hell has he never used them then? Go watch the USF game again.

LMFAO. I needed that on this hell of a long hell day at my hell work.

 

[Rhode Irish]

So, I saw Gunner's thread up at the top of the front page, and I was like "oh, God. Here we go again..."

Then I looked closer and saw "(offer)" and then I went from annoyed to ecstatic. And now he will be among the visitors this weekend? Geez. There will be a national championship team sitting in the student section Saturday night (or wherever the recruits are sitting).

 

[johnnykillz]

There will be a national championship team sitting in the student section Saturday night (or wherever the recruits are sitting).

Exactly!

 

[Ricochet]

I know the staff wants another RB in this class, but is that vital to pick one up? Next year we'll have Cierre (Sr), Cam Roberson (Jr), Cam 2 (So), GAIII (So), Mahone (Fr). I know they'd welcome either Marshall with open arms, but let's say we strike out on them? We'll still have better depth at RB then we do right now.

I mean, you just can't pass up a 6'5" QB with a laser rocket arm (think P Manning commercial), in-state that runs the spread and is athletic/somewhat fast.

The RB depth isn't good and RB's don't come back from major knee injuries very well or often and with Roberson with 2 major one's in such a short time I'm convinced that he won't be the player anywhere near the player he was suppose to be.

That said you take Keil no matter what but more RB's are needed.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Do you think people saying we might pass on Kiel because of QB depth also thought we could pass on Clausen because of Fraser, Jones, and Sharpley?

 

[Ricochet]

Crist isn't coming back and he's why. He will already have a valuable ND degree in hand and if he has the desire to play football he can transfer to someplace where he can play next year and at the very least showcase himself to the NFL.

That opportunity has passed him by at ND as he's had his chances and never seized it.

 

[Ironman8]

Do you think people saying we might pass on Kiel because of QB depth also thought we could pass on Clausen because of Fraser, Jones, and Sharpley?

I think a more apt analogy would be passing on Crist because we just got Jimmy, rather than the one you posted. In both cases, we just got a QB who was seen as "perfect" for the relative system and was handpicked by the new HC as his first QB (Golson in BK's case). Then, a five-star QB in the very next cycle with crazy good measurables and attributes is interested. No?

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Do you think people saying we might pass on Kiel because of QB depth also thought we could pass on Clausen because of Fraser, Jones, and Sharpley?

John Turner does not agree with this logic

Sharpley was never a starting QB and it was clear that Frazer wasn't going to work out.

 

[IrishMoore1]

Crist is a 6'4"/240 pound QB with a rocket arm. I know everyone loves Rees and the young guys but there is no way they will have the knowledge, experience or leadership that Dayne brings on that offense.


Again, totally agree with you dude. But I have a feeling about this one and we have seen crazier things happen. There are no guarantees in college football.

Doesn't matter how good of a leader you are. You can't lead from the bench.

 

[woolybug25]

Doesn't matter how good of a leader you are. You can't lead from the bench.

Damn It! Does no one get sarcasm!!!!


oh... I forgot to use the correct font

 

[Irish Man3]

Winston to Alabama
Kiel to Notre Dame

 

[GreatGolson]

we now have a chance to get the #1 QB and #1 RB. i agree, there is a championship team in south bend this weekend...... 28 hours to go