'12 NC RB Keith Marshall (Georgia Verbal)

[Whiskeyjack]

He didnt give shining reviews out of any of his top schools. Georgia was basically because of Knowshon Moreno. Florida because of consitent winning and SCAR and UNC because their close.

Still, "I have to at least consider them," implies we're marginal for him, but he feels like he can't cut us until he visits. Good that he's visiting first, but doesn't make me feel confident in our chances.

 

[SLCIRISH]

i think he will be Irish, only time will tell, but once he gets on campus, I think he commits.

 

[RyCo1983]

i think he will be Irish, only time will tell, but once he gets on campus, I think he commits.

The absolutely electric atmosphere for the USC game might just do the trick.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

I have a very eerie feeling that we will already have 2 RBs by that time so he will go elsewhere.

 

[hrc08]

I have a very eerie feeling that we will already have 2 RBs by that time so he will go elsewhere.

There's no way. We accept one verbal and slow play the other until Keith decides.


Byron Marshall or Mahone then we wait.

Just my opinion.

 

[IrishLax]

There's no way. We accept one verbal and slow play the other until Keith decides.


Byron Marshall or Mahone then we wait.

Just my opinion.

I strongly disagree. In my opinion you take both Mahone and Byron Marshall and don't think twice. Both guys are top 10 RBs.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I have a very eerie feeling that we will already have 2 RBs by that time so he will go elsewhere.

I strongly disagree. In my opinion you take both Mahone and Byron Marshall and don't think twice. Both guys are top 10 RBs.

Agreed on both accounts. If we end up with B. Marshall and Mahone, I'll rejoice.

Marshall is a total crap shoot. You can't turn down a top-10 RB for a lottery ticket.

 

[hrc08]

Agreed on both accounts. If we end up with B. Marshall and Mahone, I'll rejoice.

Marshall is a total crap shoot. You can't turn down a top-10 RB for a lottery ticket.

Wood still have multiple years left, McDaniel is but a freshman and once we land one of the two Notre Dame will wait for Keith to decide. He's the one true game changer that we are in on at the RB position and I for one can't see Kelly or Martin doing that.

 

[beryirish]

Wood still have multiple years left, McDaniel is but a freshman and once we land one of the two Notre Dame will wait for Keith to decide. He's the one true game changer that we are in on at the RB position and I for one can't see Kelly or Martin doing that.

McDaniel could easily play the slot position.

So how will you feel if ND gets one of either Mahone or B. Marshall -- turn the other one away --- don't get K. Marshall --- and the other signed somewhere else ?????


.........you take them!!!!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Wood still have multiple years left, McDaniel is but a freshman and once we land one of the two Notre Dame will wait for Keith to decide. He's the one true game changer that we are in on at the RB position and I for one can't see Kelly or Martin doing that.

And what happens if we turn down B. Marshall and K. Marshall picks someone else in December? We need two RBs in this cycle so GA III can get moved back to WR.

 

[rtrn2glory]

we won't turn down byron or mahone if they want to commit...personally i'd be thrilled with 1 of the 2 marshalls and mahone.

 

[Rizzophil]

If we could get B Marshall and Mahone we take both without hesitating.

I, among many others, think K Marshall will go to Georgia. Things change in recruiting and who knows what will happen to Richt. But, that's where things are at the moment.

 

[ohara831]

I just cant see K Marshall going to Georgia and siting behind Crowell. Even if he redshirts a year, we will be sitting for 2 more years behind Crowell. I think he would have a burning desire to get on the field real soon rather than wait so long.

 

[koonja]

I think that if Mahone and B Marshall committed, and Keith (he's not going to fear competition/playing time) decides to committ later as our 3rd RB, we definately take him. In that case, expect one of the two early RB commits to decommit, which I think the staff would be ok with.

The only RB I expect to commit early is Mahone. I'd guess that the Marshall's will wait to see which one moves first.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

I just cant see K Marshall going to Georgia and siting behind Crowell. Even if he redshirts a year, we will be sitting for 2 more years behind Crowell. I think he would have a burning desire to get on the field real soon rather than wait so long.

Have to disagree. He would not sit behind Crowell, he would split time with him. Name me one team that only plays one exclusive RB. Not in today's college football.

 

[JDAtlanta]

He would be the #1 option at ND.

He would be the #1 option at ND.

Have to disagree. He would not sit behind Crowell, he would split time with him. Name me one team that only plays one exclusive RB. Not in today's college football.

He would be the #2 at Georgia. I think he would see far more PT at ND. That being said, I am not sure we get him. But, I thought we would get Huggins last year. This recruiting thing is maddening!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I think that if Mahone and B Marshall committed, and Keith (he's not going to fear competition/playing time) decides to committ later as our 3rd RB, we definately take him. In that case, expect one of the two early RB commits to decommit, which I think the staff would be ok with.

The only RB I expect to commit early is Mahone. I'd guess that the Marshall's will wait to see which one moves first.

I hope you're right.

 

[NDdomer2]

Lets hope we get one of the three first!

 

[ohara831]

He would be the #2 at Georgia. I think he would see far more PT at ND. That being said, I am not sure we get him. But, I thought we would get Huggins last year. This recruiting thing is maddening!

Exactly. He would get some PT behind Crowell, but Georgia has too much invested in Crowell to bring in someone to take 1/2 his carries. Crowell is a horse and Georgia will ride him for the next 3 years and that kid will carry the ball 22-25 times per game. Like SC and Marcus Lattimore. Spurrier might bring in someone in the next class who will get 6-8 carries a game spelling Lattimore when Lattimore is a Jr. That's because he will be in the NFL after 3 years and that newest one will then have his shot.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I try not to make completely ignorant posts, but I'm tempted on this one by intuitions. The "vibes" coming off the Mahone family were so great that you just have to believe them. Plus, young mister Mahone fits our system's needs for a tough fast-to-the-gap back that's it's a match made in Heaven.

Then, here comes young mister BMarshall. He's obviously interested...even a lot. He also fits our system well and knows that except for Cierre we have no proven back [I personally, as everyone knows, think that Cam McDaniel is going to be great, but he is completely unproven]. Those "vibes" seem to have the possibility of magnifying into something really good.

I've gotten no such vibes off of the more famous young mister KMarshall.

My brilliant crystal tells me: Mahone and BMarshall, maybe even real soon, and no KMarshall [even if he wanted on the bus late]. [the scholarship numbers aren't there to just say "we'll make room somehow"---these numbers represent real people].

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Two things:

I disagree, OMM, that the staff wouldn't make room for KMarshall. That's like saying the staff wouldn't make room for DGB. When the #1 playmaker wants on board, you let him.

Second, there's a good article on NDNation that talks about BK's running game philosophy. There were some points that I had not been aware of and some points that make me excited to see what Jonas and Cierre can do this year.

ND Nation » Kelly, Big-chunk Runs and The Marshall Plan

 

[ab2cmiller]

Two things:

I disagree, OMM, that the staff wouldn't make room for KMarshall. That's like saying the staff wouldn't make room for DGB. When the #1 playmaker wants on board, you let him.

Second, there's a good article on NDNation that talks about BK's running game philosophy. There were some points that I had not been aware of and some points that make me excited to see what Jonas and Cierre can do this year.

ND Nation » Kelly, Big-chunk Runs and The Marshall Plan

Thanks for the link to the writeup. Article was well written and had information that was new to me.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I must admit it showed things in a different light for me too. But this is just why Kelly will never be able to get enough running backs or quarterbacks, too.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Kelly uses his backs much like USC did with Reggie Bush. Carroll gave the tough running to SC’s big backs, but used Bush situationally, putting him in position to gain big yards on every play (thus his gaudy 8.7 yards per carry average .) Bush didn’t run much compared to other Heisman backs, but when he did run; he was set up for big plays. For comparison Cierre Wood averaged the same amount of carries in his 2010 starts as Bush did his Heisman year (15 and change.) Kelly’s offense is one that the right back can shine in. It’s an offense geared toward Heisman type runs and that’s not by chance.

If I'm a top rated speed back, you better believe this kind of information would catch my eye (not to mention the lack of proven depth at the position). Yea, you don't touch the ball as much, but when you do, you're in the position to gain huge chunks of yardage.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Everyone wants to "make room" for KMarshall and DGB. No one disagrees with that. It's just that it's illegal to have more than 85 guys on scholarship. Kelly does NOT have infinite flexibility here, unless we want him trying to run off players like they do at Alabama.

I read thread after thread where we are saying things about how we should take this many here and this many there and if this stud comes late we'll make room for him. If I added all those up we'd be in the nineties with no 5th years asked back. Do we really want to tell KLM, Cave, Crist, et al "Sorry but so long"?

I am happy to entertain the concept of getting a Mahone and a BMarshall verbal and then waiting for a late KMarshall verbal [plus the DGB one], if someone will just show me their plan for making it fit. Then we'd at least have a real-world basis for examining that situation.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Everyone wants to "make room" for KMarshall and DGB. No one disagrees with that. It's just that it's illegal to have more than 85 guys on scholarship. Kelly does NOT have infinite flexibility here, unless we want him trying to run off players like they do at Alabama.

I read thread after thread where we are saying things about how we should take this many here and this many there and if this stud comes late we'll make room for him. If I added all those up we'd be in the nineties with no 5th years asked back. Do we really want to tell KLM, Cave, Crist, et al "Sorry but so long"?

I am happy to entertain the concept of getting a Mahone and a BMarshall verbal and then waiting for a late KMarshall verbal [plus the DGB one], if someone will just show me their plan for making it fit. Then we'd at least have a real-world basis for examining that situation.

Numerous posts have been made in regards to this. I believe most people feel that five or six 5th years will be back. That leaves roughly 21 spots available (8 remaining). Of the 8 remaining, it's anyone's guess, but most would probably feel that 2 RBs, 1 OLB, 1 WR, 2 OL, 1 S, and 1 DL will be taken. Do I foresee the staff denying Crist, KLM, Cave, etc a 5th year if they decided to come back? No. But if it comes down to an elite player such as Shaq or Keith, then I will not be completely surprised if one of those 5th years is denied. Now, if Spence, DGB, Keith, Shaq, Yuri, Nelson, etc all want on board on top of what we may already have committed...then that becomes a whole new issue and most likely some will be turned away because the numbers just won't be available. (I don't see that happening though).

 

[koonja]

If everyone got upset with Tommy being Schutt out, Keith (being a 5-star and a position of need) would cause people to camp outside of Kelly's house with pitchforks.

There will be room for K Marshall.

 

[koonja]

Five-star RB Keith Marshall (Raleigh, N.C.) could cut his top 12 in half in the next few weeks or so. He has set up OVs to ND, GA and UF.

 

[beryirish]

Keith Marshall highlights the South's top undecided - ESPN

Not announcing until the Under Armour Game.....ND couuullllddd be full by then.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Keith Marshall highlights the South's top undecided - ESPN

Not announcing until the Under Armour Game.....ND couuullllddd be full by then.

It is what it is. I think we will be full, simply because we don't have the depth to turn away the likes of a Mahone or Russell to wait for a shot at Keith.

Maybe BK can make some wiggle room with 5th years and all that jazz but I'd rather not get into it.