2025 College Football Playoffs

[NDWarrior]

I think the way the committee has it now is perfect. Now, assuming it goes our way and 'bama AND BYU lose, then ND is back up to 9 and I say 'bama is out. I personally believe it's not so much about getting punished for the CCG but more so because now you're losing to a team you beat and the CCG is essentially a playoff game so I think 'bama is out, esp. if they get boat raced by GA (hopefully, they do) and then outside the G5 team (which could be Tulane), that leaves Texas as the last team in at #11 behind Miami at #10.

That would be getting right IMO because Vanderbilt, altho' a strong resume, had two shots at 2 top 14 teams and failed to win either so I say they're the first team out.

I agree that we should go to the 16-team field. I really don't think there's nearly as much controversy at the #13 to #16 spots with 2- and 3-loss teams. The 16-team field would have been easy peasy this year with no controversies as far as I can see.

And then yes, 100%, 86 the AQ and also say the CCG - What's the purpose of them at this point? The entire field might as well start playing right away in the first round of 16 team and as kind of a reward for being seeded 1-4, those teams would be pitted against the 13-16 teams.
I believe these days conferences are more about a kind of guaranteed set # of challenging conference opponents and also they're then not worried about playing OOC teams like ND or TX playing OSU as they'll want those matchups more for SOS and in-season battle tests that could help these teams get in. Who wants a CCG where it could be the 2nd match of 3 total matches with the same, for example, SEC teams. Stupid.

IMO, there are an increasing number of non CCG at-large teams qualifying for the 16-team field so also don't have the 13th game and get an extra week to rest, like ND, so there are a lot of similar situations to the Irish's situation so again, I say 86 the CCGs - There's no need for them in the current system.

Done!

Also, with a system like this, since the conference teams are now more willing to play non-conference games against top P4 conference teams and ND, I think ND should leverage it's strong brand and current NBC contract (where NBC also has Big10 games) to get a Big10 tie up where ND has 2-4 games against Big10 team every year, similar to ACC deal (that also enables ND to get USC at least in some years, if not annually). NBC I would think would love that so ND and conference TV right deals could go uninterrupted. And then keep ACC tie up or kill that and do more Clemson deals with top ACC teams only, so include similar tie up with Miami. ND also needs to ensure there are top P4 games on their annual slate or it could bit us in some years. For example, next year's schedule is shit and won't be helpful for SOS for making the 2026 CFP.

 

[Kingbish01]

Oregon snagging an at large for the Big 12. Bravo.


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Chatgpt told me the Jets would cover last weekend because Aaron Rogers was back!

 

[1776]

We really just need to man up and face the reality.

1. We are playing too soft of a schedule to overcome bad starts. We need more top tier programs on the schedule.

2. Marcus Freeman does not come out of camp firing on all cylinders. His teams peak at the right time but lose games they should not early on.

In this day and age, you CANNOT give them a reason to f*ck you, because they will. On the field, we drop a snap and allow them to blow a targeting and holding call to steal the game. Off the field, we have horrible soft game plans against Miami and allow them to steal a playoff spot from us.

 

[Riddickulous]

Why is Miami stuck at 12 after blowing out a ranked Pitt by 31 on the road? Why did a coach-less Ole Miss move up? Why are we swapping Bama and ND after Bama needed a late TD to beat a coach-less 5-7 Auburn? Why is ND dropping after beating a P4 team by 29 on the road?

Every new thing you discover just makes this all look even more ridiculous.

 

[2013Irish]

I don't think it started as a week's long conspiracy but I think they started listening to the lobbying over the past two weeks. There is no *logical* case to move Bama up for squeaking by Auburn.

Playing devil's advocate here - Auburn has very good computer ratings relative to their record. Stanford does not.

 

[Bane]

I think people are looking for logic in something that has no logic. All discussion has been about ND versus Miami so they milked it until the last dramatic week when they will flip it.

Well, if it's all a show for outrage, clicks, and ratings, wouldn't leaving Miami out even if we're ranked right next to each other be the biggest controversy of all? Why would they "milk it until the last week" and then revert to what the outrage factory online considers "the right thing?" To uphold the "integrity of the game?" There is no integrity in this game, it's dirtier than prostitution.

 

[Irishdawg]

Chatgpt told me the Jets would cover last weekend because Aaron Rogers was back!

King, nice typo from John Buhler writer for the Dawn of the Dog site. lol. Although, I still like how he has us in the CFP!

 

[IrishTusker]

The fact that this has turned entirely into a Miami or ND fight -instead of Miami + ND vs. one of OU/Bama- is very interesting. I think Miami deserves to be in, too. Has any Miami fan said they deserve to be in over OU and/or Bama?

 

[stlnd01]

This is all stupid and corrupt but once again, as it has for weeks now, our playoff fate rests entirely on Texas Tech beating BYU. All the rest is and has long been a distraction.

 

[Dale]

If you get chalk, this puts Alabama at 10 with a loss while staying consistent to last season.

 

[allenm5333]

So this is fair, giving them grace that in a close loss to Georgia + BYU wins that they could keep them in over ND. This is actually the least doomsday scenario for ND in the sense of ND staying above Miami... Bama loses + BYU loses they could drop Bama back behind ND and keep them in the playoffs still.

Ralph Russo has a good response. If Bama wins and BYU loses, BYU is buffer between ND and Miami with logic “we don’t punish conference losers”. If both lose, we jump Bama and they are buffer between us and Miami. This is my hope

 

[Guyjin37]

We’re now on the other side of the bracket, meaning that, assuming we’re internally viewed as one of the top 5-6 teams, we can fight it out with Indiana and Georgia for a title bid while Ohio state waits on the other side. Would result in the most competitive NCG potentially. Conspiracy theory at best but makes sense on some level.

 

[WildMan1]

I don’t think this is for ESPN ratings.. they didn’t even run any commercials during it iirc..

 

[EvilleIrish]

Josh Pate doesn’t think tonight was good for us.

 

[pumpdog20]

Playing devil's advocate here - Auburn has very good computer ratings relative to their record. Stanford does not.

but why... those wins over Baylor, Ball State, South Alabama, Arkansas, and Mercer really carry a lot of weight apparently.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Ralph Russo has a good response. If Bama wins and BYU loses, BYU is buffer between ND and Miami with logic “we don’t punish conference losers”. If both lose, we jump Bama and they are buffer between us and Miami. This is my hope

Interesting thought worth equal consideration to the other conspiracy theories.

 

[2013Irish]

but why... those wins over Baylor, Ball State, South Alabama, Arkansas, and Mercer really carry a lot of weight apparently.

I think it's that they play everyone close. They kind of got jobbed against Georgia.

 

[Dale]

Josh Pate doesn’t think tonight was good for us.

Thanks I’ve been wondering all night what Josh Pate thinks

 

[calvegas04]

Should have bought stock in mattress cleaner

 

[ab2cmiller]

Thanks I’ve been wondering all night what Josh Pate thinks

LOL. I mean it’s Pate stating the obvious. We went down 1 spot closer to the cut line. Not sure why it’s worth mentioning on this board.

Also, water is wet.

 

[EvilleIrish]

 

[notredamermotherpray4us]

Josh Pate doesn’t think tonight was good for us.

No shit

 

[OhioIrish]

Why is Miami stuck at 12 after blowing out a ranked Pitt by 31 on the road? Why did a coach-less Ole Miss move up? Why are we swapping Bama and ND after Bama needed a late TD to beat a coach-less 5-7 Auburn? Why is ND dropping after beating a P4 team by 29 on the road?

Every new thing you discover just makes this all look even more ridiculous.

This is where I am at. The committee and its process are so corrupt that they are not really even trying to hide it. Honestly, I think they just don’t care that we care.

 

[EvilleIrish]

Thanks I’ve been wondering all night what Josh Pate thinks

You are welcome.

 

[tussin]

We really just need to man up and face the reality.

1. We are playing too soft of a schedule to overcome bad starts. We need more top tier programs on the schedule.

This is bullshit. We set our schedule ten years in advance which means SOS is basically luck.

USC, TAMU, Miami, Arkansas, Boise, Pitt, Stanford, and Navy are all quality programs that have seen major success in the recent past.

 

[MacIrish75]

Josh Pate doesn’t think tonight was good for us.

Damn that means we are absolutely GOLDEN then. That dude doesn’t know crap.

 

[IrishBoognish]

LOL. I mean it’s Pate stating the obvious. We went down 1 spot closer to the cut line. Not sure why it’s worth mentioning on this board.

Also, water is wet.

Stating the obvious in an incredibly confident manner is his whole thing.

"Dropping a spot and having to count on other teams to win is not good for ND and ill stake my career on it!"

 

[BeauBenken]

Still thinking how stupid it is to have these conferences if you have to try to send 5+ teams from your conference to the playoffs just to figure out who is actually better. Instead of auto bids, there should just be hard caps on how many a conference can have in the freaking thing. (No more than two. Figure it out.)

And I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at the idiots still chiming at us to join one of these things or complaining that we don't play a conference championship. Hello? Many of the teams they are trying to squeeze in there won't have played or won a conference championship. At least we didn't schedule Eastern Illinois.

 

[ndinoxford]

Committee should just throw out the ACC title winner and put Miami in. They deserve to be in the playoffs and nobody wants to watch Virginia or G5 team get smoked in the first round.

 

[IrishTusker]

This is bullshit. We set our schedule ten years in advance which means SOS is basically luck.

USC, TAMU, Miami, Arkansas, Boise, Pitt, Stanford, and Navy are all quality programs that have seen major success in the recent past.

The issue was the front-loading, not the overall difficulty of the schedule. Clearly we were finding our footing early and stumbled. If we're playing an easier first two games we likely win even while stumbling and end up 11-1, like Oregon. It's extremely unusual to have a schedule where the first two games are the toughest two.