2025 College Football Playoffs

[IrishLax]

Notre Dame got fucked every which way:
1. Insane ACC tiebreakers creating the Miami issue
2. Blown call on 4th and 11 by SEC refs Week 2 or we're not even talking about any of this
3. Everything with SEC scheduling and ESPN bias to create the five team log jam that we see with Vandy and Texas arguably having claims for inclusion as well. Something has to be done about this but the 9 game conference schedule will help.
4. AAC tiebreaker has Navy not only not playing for their conference championship but totally unranked when they are #23 in the Media/Coaches polls. Costs ND a top 25 win.
5. Arkansas losing infinity close games.
6. Boise State QB gets hurt or they are 10-2 headed to 11-2 G5 Champ.

 

[WildMan1]

Here’s some hopium:

They put Bama above us so in the event they lose they can keep both of us in.

BYU loses to Tech
Bama loses to Georgia

9) ND
10) Bama
11) Miami
12) BYU

 

[Crazy Balki]

The committee isn't exactly making logical decisions here.

Stupid ones, but they're not straying from their logic.

Alabama's situation hasn't changed. Whether they were 9 or 10, based on the CFP committee logic, they aren't moving from that spot. If BYU loses, the same logic applies. You can't flip flop the logic for two teams in the same situation. If Alabama isn't punished for losing to a top 5 team in their conference championship game, you can't then punish BYU for the same.

Essentially, BYU would remain the first team out and Miami is screwed because they can't move ahead of them.

Recall last year, going into the CCG week, ND was #4 in the CFP polls, right behind Texas and Penn State. Both teams lost their CCG, and the following polls, ND stayed behind them, dropping to #6, despite having a better record than them.

 

[Riddickulous]

Here’s some hopium:

They put Bama above us so in the event they lose they can keep both of us in.

BYU loses to Tech
Bama loses to Georgia

9) ND
10) Bama
11) Miami
12) BYU

This scenario is impossible.

There are two autobids that still need to get in, whether that be the ACC champs and a G5 team, or two G5 teams.

 

[bcole2]

The Virginia angle is an interesting one. I'm probably just smoking some copium, but if Virginia wins and gets the 11 seed for an ACC bid, why would it make sense that Miami then gets the 10 seed and gets rewarded with a likely easier game and a higher seed when they couldn't even be ahead of Virginia in their own conference? I understand the OOC win against us would be a big factor, but doesn't that just seem wrong in a way? Oh you were behind us all season in our conference but now you are ahead us of in the tournament? Would feel really weird.

 

[IrishLax]

Many of us took the previous statements of the committee as being truthful. We were dumb

I still think we get in but this committee is so corrupt

I don't think we get in, I think as soon as they started getting political pressure and direct lobbying they folded. The idea that Bama jumped ND because an "impressive win over Auburn" convinced people to move Bama up is the biggest lie I have ever heard. This shit is worse than FIFA.

They are doing all of this to get ND next to Miami so that they can dramatically put Miami in the playoffs this weekend if BYU loses. I am laying heavy bets on Miami to get in while sprinkling BYU as an unlikely hedge... either I cry on a pile of money or ND gets in and I'm happy with a little less money.

Burn the whole system down, go to 16 no byes / no AQs / no committee. 12 does NOT work if you are going to circle jerk the SEC like this and also give spots away to bad G5 teams.

 

[MPClinton22]

Stupid ones, but they're not straying from their logic.

Alabama's situation hasn't changed. Whether they were 9 or 10, based on the CFP committee logic, they aren't moving from that spot. If BYU loses, the same logic applies. You can't flip flop the logic for two teams in the same situation. If Alabama isn't punished for losing to a top 5 team in their conference championship game, you can't then punish BYU for the same.

Essentially, BYU would remain the first team out and Miami is screwed because they can't move ahead of them.

Recall last year, going into the CCG week, ND was #4 in the CFP polls, right behind Texas and Penn State. Both teams lost their CCG, and the following polls, ND stayed behind them, dropping to #6, despite having a better record than them.

Yeah the only team dinged was SMU because they lost to an unranked opponent - Penn St and Texas both lost to top 5 teams and didn’t move relative to ND. That should also be the outcome for BYU and Bama if they lose.

 

[WildMan1]

The social media push for Miami is insane though..

And the SEC bias is out of control..

The playoffs has to go to 16 teams.. so then everyone can freak out about 3 loss teams instead 😂

 

[Crazy Balki]

Allow me to answer your question with a question: why didn’t they just put Alabama ahead of ND last week, before Bama looked bad against Auburn? My answer is this: the committee has an agenda which they hope will play out through game play, but in the event it doesn’t they simply move the pieces around and put some redneck chucklehead on TV to gloss it over. The committee prefers the SEC to ND and ND to Miami. But, it’s now at a point that they will simply be forced to put Miami in, so they arrange the pieces to make it appear as though it happened on the field.

They can't. By their own logic, they can't move BYU.

Remember last year, Penn State and Texas both lost and stayed ahead of ND. Committee stated they won't punish teams for losing in the CCG. The committee has a buffer to protect them from the head-to-head yokels.

 

[Dale]

Stupid ones, but they're not straying from their logic.

Alabama's situation hasn't changed. Whether they were 9 or 10, based on the CFP committee logic, they aren't moving from that spot. If BYU loses, the same logic applies. You can't flip flop the logic for two teams in the same situation. If Alabama isn't punished for losing to a top 5 team in their conference championship game, you can't then punish BYU for the same.

Essentially, BYU would remain the first team out and Miami is screwed because they can't move ahead of them.

Recall last year, going into the CCG week, ND was #4 in the CFP polls, right behind Texas and Penn State. Both teams lost their CCG, and the following polls, ND stayed behind them, dropping to #6, despite having a better record than them.

You’re setting forth rules and logic that don’t exist. They will decide the 12 based on this weekend and make up the justification after. There is no rule book needed to follow.

 

[Bane]

It’s tough to listen to this explanation and not think they are totally corrupt. I mean they were outgained by 100+ yards against a coachless 5-7 team.

"They ran the ball well" and it was just Jam Miller running for 83 yards.

 

[IrishinSyria]

This scenario is impossible.

There are two autobids that still need to get in, whether that be the ACC champs and a G5 team, or two G5 teams.

I read this as suggesting Miami and BYU are out in this scenario

 

[WildMan1]

This scenario is impossible.

There are two autobids that still need to get in, whether that be the ACC champs and a G5 team, or two G5 teams.

Well I meant in rankings not seeds.. 11/12 would be 1 & 2 out. Bama & ND both get in.

But there really is an undercurrent of “we are fucked” Right now

 

[ab2cmiller]

"They ran the ball well" and it was just Jam Miller running for 83 yards.

Who is now injured

 

[2013Irish]

If a loss in the SEC championship game doesn't hurt Bama, why does a loss in the Big 12 title game presumably hurt BYU? The double standard is ridiculous.

Also, doesn't TTU killing BYU (20 point win) just confirm the prior result? Not sure why it would alter the committee's perception of them.

 

[T-Boone]

Many of us took the previous statements of the committee as being truthful. We were dumb

I still think we get in but this committee is so corrupt

Stop wetting the bed about the committee, it is fine.
The fact is ND at 10-2 was always 50/50 as it is now but some folks were being fools.

 

[Crazy Balki]

The Virginia angle is an interesting one. I'm probably just smoking some copium, but if Virginia wins and gets the 11 seed for an ACC bid, why would it make sense that Miami then gets the 10 seed and gets rewarded with a likely easier game and a higher seed when they couldn't even be ahead of Virginia in their own conference? I understand the OOC win against us would be a big factor, but doesn't that just seem wrong in a way? Oh you were behind us all season in our conference but now you are ahead us of in the tournament? Would feel really weird.

They wouldn't. Virginia would jump Miami, by virtue of having both the better record and the conference title over them.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

I don’t see how they can logically move Miami ahead of us without basically admitting to blatant corruption.

“The debate between ND and Bama has been heated over the past few weeks” - this tells me that ND and Bama are basically locked side by side regardless of a Bama loss this week. If Bama loses they will just flip flop the order again, and the move this week was done to protect Bama in the event of a loss. It seems like Miami is straight up out. He would’ve made some generic statement about how ND, Bama, BYU and Miami are all locked in debate.

I don’t think it’s that deep. They asked him about the ND and Bama flip. He answered that they were very close.

Omitting BYU and Miami in his direct response doesn’t mean that they aren’t as well.

 

[pumpdog20]

If a loss in the SEC championship game doesn't hurt Bama, why does a loss in the Big 12 title game presumably hurt BYU? The double standard is ridiculous.

They will justify it by saying "well Bama and Georgia are 1-1 on the year, and BYU is 0-2".
That's how Bama doesn't drop and BYU does.

 

[KPENN]

Now that I’ve calmed down a bit. Bama is in and probably jumping with a win. Bumping Bama ahead of ND allows them potentially to drop Bama one spot and keep the buffer

 

[IrishinSyria]

As stupid as this all is, I think we’re where it was obvious we would be after the Texas game—100% reliant on Tech beating BYU.

 

[Ndaccountant]

In a morbid way, I hope BYU wins and Miami gets one spot ahead of ND, only to still be out. At that point, they will realize they fought the wrong battle the whole time.

 

[Bane]

This is what I'm sort of talking myself into now - moving Bama was to make sure they could flip us back if Bama loses and keep us both in, especially after the comments re: the Bama/ND comparison. And the "idle teams can move" comment was to preface us moving back up w/ a Bama loss. Maybe?

That’s exactly what I think is happening. If they win we stay at 10. That way if Bama loses they can move them back 1 spot and still make it in. I think it’s all about protecting Bama. They aren't flipping us and Miami they would have already done it.

Yeah, the more I've thought about it, this is what I'm starting to think too. It maybe copium but I'm choosing to shotgun it for the next 4 days.

 

[IrishLax]

This is what I'm sort of talking myself into now - moving Bama was to make sure they could flip us back if Bama loses and keep us both in, especially after the comments re: the Bama/ND comparison. And the "idle teams can move" comment was to preface us moving back up w/ a Bama loss. Maybe?

I think this is cope but anything is possible.

 

[dang227]

Auburn is not good but they are likely putting weight on the Iron Bowl rivalry won at Auburn.

That’s a fucking joke. They don’t have a head coach and are a fucking mess. Pure unadulterated bullshit to move them up off of that win. They looked like shit.

 

[pumpdog20]

The one saving grace is putting Georgia and TT in coveted bye positions, so you'll get their best efforts at least.

 

[LifelongFan]

I think people are looking for logic in something that has no logic. All discussion has been about ND versus Miami so they milked it until the last dramatic week when they will flip it.

 

[EvilleIrish]

Concerning

 

[IrishLax]

To me, the biggest red flag is actually Navy being unranked. Navy is #23 in the polls and them being out says they aren't looking for any "justification" to keep ND in.

 

[Kingbish01]

I don't think we get in, I think as soon as they started getting political pressure and direct lobbying they folded. The idea that Bama jumped ND because an "impressive win over Auburn" convinced people to move Bama up is the biggest lie I have ever heard. This shit is worse than FIFA.

They are doing all of this to get ND next to Miami so that they can dramatically put Miami in the playoffs this weekend if BYU loses. I am laying heavy bets on Miami to get in while sprinkling BYU as an unlikely hedge... either I cry on a pile of money or ND gets in and I'm happy with a little less money.

Burn the whole system down, go to 16 no byes / no AQs / no committee. 12 does NOT work if you are going to circle jerk the SEC like this and also give spots away to bad G5 teams.

I really do think they put Bama ahead of ND so they have the ability to drop conference losers a spot or two. Bama is in, it is what it is. But Bama probably loses to UGA so now they can drop them a spot along with BYU and it's better for optics. I know Bama has had UGA number...but UGA is gonna win that game, and so is Texas Tech. I think we see ND and Bama both in when it's all said and done. But truth is, if ND gets bumped....well shouldn't have come out the gate the way they did.