2025 College Football Playoffs

IrishSteelhead

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What’s funny is Bama knows they are playing with house money now, and will have a good showing in the SEC CG because of it.

They will be loose and at their best.


If they felt their backs were against the wall, they would have shit down their leg and got their teeth kicked in by Georgia.


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In that case, why keep Miami at 12 behind BYU. Even if that was the play, this is a downright idiotic way to go about it.

Because again, by the same logic that Bama can't drop for losing, neither can BYU.
More people will watch on Sunday if they do not know who is in. It's that simple. ESPN is making the picks and I bet this program gets really good ratings.
 

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Just can't imagine watching them go 1-0 for 10 straight games and getting left out. Apparently having the 2nd longest winning streak in the country doesn't mean much if that happens.
 

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But what’s the downside of doing it now? Maintain the controversy another week for views? ESPN certainly isn’t above that I suppose
Because sliding ND back multiple spots and jumping Miami up multiple would seem reactionary. I'm not saying that this is 100% what is happening, I am saying that's what my gut is. My gut is that there was lobbying to protect Bama, which gets them slotted up a spot, and then they said "well if BYU loses we can fix the Miami-ND thing then". I also think that they boxed themselves into a bad situation because of certain teams losing and others not losing which has created a log jam that they can't fix.
 

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I think the way the committee has it now is perfect. Now, assuming it goes our way and 'bama AND BYU lose, then ND is back up to 9 and I say 'bama is out. I personally believe it's not so much about getting punished for the CCG but more so because now you're losing to a team you beat and the CCG is essentially a playoff game so I think 'bama is out, esp. if they get boat raced by GA (hopefully, they do) and then outside the G5 team (which could be Tulane), that leaves Texas as the last team in at #11 behind Miami at #10.

That would be getting right IMO because Vanderbilt, altho' a strong resume, had two shots at 2 top 14 teams and failed to win either so I say they're the first team out.

I agree that we should go to the 16-team field. I really don't think there's nearly as much controversy at the #13 to #16 spots with 2- and 3-loss teams. The 16-team field would have been easy peasy this year with no controversies as far as I can see.

And then yes, 100%, 86 the AQ and also say the CCG - What's the purpose of them at this point? The entire field might as well start playing right away in the first round of 16 team and as kind of a reward for being seeded 1-4, those teams would be pitted against the 13-16 teams.
I believe these days conferences are more about a kind of guaranteed set # of challenging conference opponents and also they're then not worried about playing OOC teams like ND or TX playing OSU as they'll want those matchups more for SOS and in-season battle tests that could help these teams get in. Who wants a CCG where it could be the 2nd match of 3 total matches with the same, for example, SEC teams. Stupid.

IMO, there are an increasing number of non CCG at-large teams qualifying for the 16-team field so also don't have the 13th game and get an extra week to rest, like ND, so there are a lot of similar situations to the Irish's situation so again, I say 86 the CCGs - There's no need for them in the current system.

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Because sliding ND back multiple spots and jumping Miami up multiple would seem reactionary. I'm not saying that this is 100% what is happening, I am saying that's what my gut is. My gut is that there was lobbying to protect Bama, which gets them slotted up a spot, and then they said "well if BYU loses we can fix the Miami-ND thing then". I also think that they boxed themselves into a bad situation because of certain teams losing and others not losing which has created a log jam that they can't fix.
It seems they would have put BYU at 12 and Miami at 10 this week if these things actually weighed heavily upon them.
 

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Also, the more controversy there possibly is, the better the ratings for this dumb ass selection show. Never forget that when reading their comments.
I've also just come to the conclusion that Hunter Yurachek is just sort of a moron and trying to read into anything he says as part of a grand conspiracy is tilting at windmills. I literally don't think he knows what he's talking about most of the time. I mean he had to know that he was going to be asked about Bama/ND and the best he could come up with was some bullshit about Alabama rushing the ball and a "gutsy" call after they blew a 17 point lead. Never read malice into what could just as easily be explained by incompetence.
 

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Logical reasons...avoid a rematch, ability to drop Bama after they lose and keep them in the playoffs, and because they dropped Bama with a loss...now they can drop BYU too.
there's no need to drop BYU for a loss though. They can stay put after a loss and will still be left out.
 

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I don't think it started as a week's long conspiracy but I think they started listening to the lobbying over the past two weeks. There is no *logical* case to move Bama up for squeaking by Auburn.
It’s not logical, but I think the case is that Bama was the first team out last year and they didn’t want to put Bama in a position of being #10, losing a conf champ game, and getting jumped by #11 BYU resulting in Bama getting “screwed” two years in a row.
 

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I don't think it started as a week's long conspiracy but I think they started listening to the lobbying over the past two weeks. There is no *logical* case to move Bama up for squeaking by Auburn.
The logic is - they want Bama in the field, and swapping them with ND gives them buffer if Bama loses and BYU wins, Bama isn’t on the chopping block. I really think it’s just a conspiracy to protect Bama and nothing else.
 

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When it's all said and done, I bet the elite 8 (with story lines) are:

OSU/ND--Big rematch from last year.
TT/Oregon-- Can TT def slow down Ore offense.
UGA/James Madison-- David vs Goliath
INDIANA/Bama- Old school/New school you need to learn though...I burn baby burn like disco inferno
 

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The committee really murdered their credibility with this move. Even if a lot of people online think we should be behind Miami, the outcry against Bama moving up for no reason is real.
We've all been sidetracked with ND vs Miami debates, the real enemy is and always will be the SEC and their owners: Disney/ABC/ESPN. There is zero reason for OU to be ahead of us or Miami. Miami is a much better team than OU and if Miami gets in I won't be upset at Miami, I will be upset that Bama and OU were locked in as part of a brand protection racket.

If Ole Miss was an ACC team they would at worst be dropped down out of a hosting slot for losing their coach. No fucking way they move UP a spot. "We couldn't evaluate how Ole Miss would look without their coach so we just fucking moved up them up anyways."
 

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It’s not logical, but I think the case is that Bama was the first team out last year and they didn’t want to put Bama in a position of being #10, losing a conf champ game, and getting jumped by #11 BYU resulting in Bama getting “screwed” two years in a row.
So this is fair, giving them grace that in a close loss to Georgia + BYU wins that they could keep them in over ND. This is actually the least doomsday scenario for ND in the sense of ND staying above Miami... Bama loses + BYU loses they could drop Bama back behind ND and keep them in the playoffs still.
 

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To me, the biggest red flag is actually Navy being unranked. Navy is #23 in the polls and them being out says they aren't looking for any "justification" to keep ND in.
The lack of Navy rank may have something to do with them ranking N Texas. They already ranked Tulane and North Texas and that guarantees the winner of the AAC is the at large over JMU. North Texas handled Navy this year.
 

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In that case, why keep Miami at 12 behind BYU. Even if that was the play, this is a downright idiotic way to go about it.

Because again, by the same logic that Bama can't drop for losing, neither can BYU.
Bama has previously beaten Georgia. In Athens. BYU already lost by 20 points I believe to Texas Tech. Should Bama lose, it’s hard to ding them…BYU on the other hand…you had two cracks at em. Sorry
 

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They can't. By their own logic, they can't move BYU.

Remember last year, Penn State and Texas both lost and stayed ahead of ND. Committee stated they won't punish teams for losing in the CCG. The committee has a buffer to protect them from the head-to-head yokels.
I hear you, be define “punish”? Is it punishment to drop a team in the rankings if they were never actually in the payoff field? BYU is not in the playoff currently, so it is hardly a punishment to re-rank them when they lose — that was not the case for Texas or Penn St.
 

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Honestly, I was surprised ND was ranked ahead of Bama in the first place. Doesn't justify flip flopping them this week, but still.
 
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