2025 College Football Playoffs

[IrishSteelhead]

Hold on. Gameday legit passed on #1 vs #2, who each have a Heisman finalist QB, for a rematch between two teams?


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[irishff1014]

Hold on. Gameday legit passed on #1 vs #2, who each have a Heisman finalist QB, for a rematch between two teams?


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All you need to know.

 

[Mightstillhappen]

In 1984, National Champion BYU beat Hawaii by 5. They also beat Air Force by 5. And best of all, they beat Wyoming by 3 at home. No ranked wins.

Washington was clearly better at 11-1.

At least the CFP saves us from this type of disaster.

 

[IrishLion]

Hold on. Gameday legit passed on #1 vs #2, who each have a Heisman finalist QB, for a rematch between two teams?


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I think it’s a contract thing for conference championship week.

Also possible that FOX gets dibs on B1G championship, which would make it a silly business decision to NOT go cover the other big game

 

[WildMan1]

I’m sure there’s a business decision in there but at the same time the Georgia/Bama game has actual playoff implications.

The only reason I’m going to watch Big10 Championship is to see if Indiana is the real deal.

But again.. Even that is in question as both teams will likely still get a first round bye regardless of the outcome so the question is how much are they willing to put on the line for the Big10 Championship?

 

[NDPhilly]

ThePredictionTracker NCAA RESULTS

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ND #3 on DokterEntropy, which has been incredibly close to Vegas’ ratings and most accurate of all the indexes this year. If the committee was serious they’d use it instead of FPI.

http://www.dokterentropy.com/currat.txt

Also not sure what rating “System” is. If anyone knows, send a link.

 

[Huntr]

ThePredictionTracker NCAA RESULTS

Football ratings, NFL, NCAA Football Basketball Baseball Computer ratings predictions

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ND #3 on DokterEntropy, which has been incredibly close to Vegas’ ratings and most accurate of all the indexes this year. If the committee was serious they’d use it instead of FPI.

http://www.dokterentropy.com/currat.txt

Also not sure what rating “System” is. If anyone knows, send a link.

System Average and System Median are just the average and median of all of the prediction systems tracked

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

IU, BYU and UVA all getting into the playoffs is going to make this a festival of mid 20 somethings I'm not sure I will be able to enjoy.

 

[1776]

IU has not played a world beater schedule, but they are legit. They destroyed Illinois as bad as we did Syracuse. And Illinois was a top ten team with playoff aspirations at the time. That’s no joke

 

[AKRowdy]

IU has not played a world beater schedule, but they are legit. They destroyed Illinois as bad as we did Syracuse. And Illinois was a top ten team with playoff aspirations at the time. That’s no joke

Gtfo. You are delusional to think Illinois was ever an actual top 10 team.

 

[RDU Irish]

It's not the committee's fault that the ACC has some stupid tiebreaker that enables an unranked team with five losses to make their championship over the #11 team that is 10-2.

100% - all the flack thrown at ND should be directed at the ACC. They control the CCG snub, not ND. THAT is the extra datapoint everyone bitches about while ignoring the two HBCU D3 schools on every other P5 schedule (give Miami credit for "only" having a Bethune-Cookman scrimmage).

ACC bites itself in the ass - Miami had a say in setting up the ACC title game process. Tough shit getting hosed by your own cooking. Maybe go independent and stop being drug down by your shitty conference ya bunch of whiney losers.

 

[RDU Irish]

Gtfo. You are delusional to think Illinois was ever an actual top 10 team.

South Carolina was right there with them. LSU was top 5. LOL

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I’m sure there’s a business decision in there but at the same time the Georgia/Bama game has actual playoff implications.

The only reason I’m going to watch Big10 Championship is to see if Indiana is the real deal.

But again.. Even that is in question as both teams will likely still get a first round bye regardless of the outcome so the question is how much are they willing to put on the line for the Big10 Championship?

I'll keep tabs but for your last point, that's why I won't be invested in it at all. The B1G Championship is literally useless other than some trophy nobody will give a shit about in a month.

The SEC and B12 are the only games we need to be paying attention to this weekend.

 

[fightingirish26]

IU, BYU and UVA all getting into the playoffs is going to make this a festival of mid 20 somethings I'm not sure I will be able to enjoy.

Not sure how anyone is complaining about indianas quality at this point

 

[NDMatt91]

I think the SEC Championship Game will be more than likely be meaningless outside of seeding. IMO, the only way Bama gets bumped out is if they get destroyed, and I just don't see that happening. I think Bama will win. If Clemson had kept their foot on SMU's throat last year in the ACC Championship Game I believe that SMU would've been knocked out.

 

[NDPhilly]

The spread for IU / OSU of -5.5 is surprising to me - Vegas baking in a big premium for OSU just having the talent advantage / maybe holding back most of the year that doesn’t tie to the computers.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

They are inevitably going to have to expand this thing to at least 16 teams because their decision to include auto-bids, regardless of ranking or any other metrics attached to it, is going to really bite them in the ass this year. There are at-larges like ND, Texas, and Bama that are way more deserving than the joke of an ACCCG. Part of me hopes Duke wins the ACCCG just to make the Committee and these conferences look like fools.

Make it 16, but you can't have X number of teams from each conference guaranteed a spot. I don't know the optics of how removing the auto bids would affect the G5 participation, but I have way less issue with that large of a field (66 teams) getting ONE auto-bid vs. a potential 7-5 ACC champion. I highly doubt that the P4 teams would agree to keeping a G5 auto-bid with any strings attached to their own, though.

I'm not sure what the best solutions are but this is a complete joke of a system.

 

[Bane]

I think the SEC Championship Game will be more than likely be meaningless outside of seeding. IMO, the only way Bama gets bumped out is if they get destroyed, and I just don't see that happening. I think Bama will win. If Clemson had kept their foot on SMU's throat last year in the ACC Championship Game I believe that SMU would've been knocked out.

I'm less certain Bama is in with a loss. They're already a bubble team with 2 losses (including a terrible loss to FSU). It wouldn't surprise me if they bump them out, especially if the loss is by double digits.

 

[Bane]

They are inevitably going to have to expand this thing to at least 16 teams because their decision to include auto-bids regardless of ranking or any other metrics attached to it is going to really bite them in the ass this year. There are at-larges like ND, Texas, and Bama that are way more deserving than the joke of an ACCCG. Part of me hopes Duke wins the ACCCG just to make the Committee and these conferences look like fools.

Make it 16, but you can't have any X number of teams from each conference is guaranteed a spot. I don't know the optics of how removing the auto bids would be affect the G6 participation, but I have way less issue with that large of a field (66 teams) getting ONE auto-bid vs. a potential 7-5 ACC champion. I highly doubt that the P4 teams would agree to keeping a G6 auto-bid with any strings attached to their own, though.

I'm not sure what the best solutions are but this is a complete joke of a system.

There are years where G5 teams find themselves in the top 16. Hell, a G5 team made the 4 team playoff. If we go to 16 there should be no autobids.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Keep it at 12 and just do away with all autobids. Problem solved.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

There are years where G5 teams find themselves in the top 16. Hell, a G5 team made the 4 team playoff. If we go to 16 there should be no autobids.

I actually agree, I'm just saying as far as the autobids go, the G6 gives me the least heartburn given all of the "competitive advantages" the G4 conferences have.

But I agree they should also have to be ranked top 20 or whatever that stipulation should/would be. Duke over Texas? what a fucking joke this format is. Spit on the whole regular season.

 

[RDU Irish]

I'm less certain Bama is in with a loss. They're already a bubble team with 2 losses (including a terrible loss to FSU). It wouldn't surprise me if they bump them out, especially if the loss is by double digits.

With Miami, ND and Vandy (even CCG losing BYU for that matter) at two losses, it would be a farce to allow any 3 loss team into the field with an at large bid.

 

[stlnd01]

I think the SEC Championship Game will be more than likely be meaningless outside of seeding. IMO, the only way Bama gets bumped out is if they get destroyed, and I just don't see that happening. I think Bama will win. If Clemson had kept their foot on SMU's throat last year in the ACC Championship Game I believe that SMU would've been knocked out.

If the current rankings hold and Bama loses by multi scores, it’s going to be a very interesting argument between them and Miami for the last spot. (And we need to hope that’s all the argument entails).

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Keep it at 12 and just do away with all autobids. Problem solved.

This would be most ideal but they'd never agree to it. 16 would help grow the at-large pool obviously, but would lead to even more watering down of regular season schedules.

I think if you remove the auto-bids, that would increase the desire to schedule tougher OOC opponents because the separation at 10-2 is going to be heavily resume-based.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

If Tulane would have beaten Ole Miss, they wouldn't need an autobid. If Navy would have beaten ND, same. They didnt, they both got waxed. Heck, if JMU would have beaten Louisville they would be in top 12 position most likely. Its not like the top G5/6 teams dont get chances to prove themselves, the problem is they often come up short in those situations.

 

[RDU Irish]

G5 qualifiers need to be no more than two losses and ranked in top 16 or something similar. I have no problem with conference champion auto bids. Gives a lot to the end of season theatrics. Punish the losers though, you don't get it both ways.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

This would be most ideal but they'd never agree to it. 16 would help grow the at-large pool obviously, but would lead to even more watering down of regular season schedules.

I think if you remove the auto-bids, that would increase the desire to schedule tougher OOC opponents because the separation at 10-2 is going to be heavily resume-based.

They should also adopt a NET-like analytics system which they can refer to when comparing similar teams.

 

[notredomer23]

They are inevitably going to have to expand this thing to at least 16 teams because their decision to include auto-bids regardless of ranking or any other metrics attached to it is going to really bite them in the ass this year. There are at-larges like ND, Texas, and Bama that are way more deserving than the joke of an ACCCG. Part of me hopes Duke wins the ACCCG just to make the Committee and these conferences look like fools.

Make it 16, but you can't have any X number of teams from each conference is guaranteed a spot. I don't know the optics of how removing the auto bids would be affect the G6 participation, but I have way less issue with that large of a field (66 teams) getting ONE auto-bid vs. a potential 7-5 ACC champion. I highly doubt that the P4 teams would agree to keeping a G6 auto-bid with any strings attached to their own, though.

I'm not sure what the best solutions are but this is a complete joke of a system.

There's essentially 2 routes forward IMO- 16 teams, conference championship games eliminated, all at large, or 14 teams, expanded from essentially the current structure. I prefer 14- top 2 with a bye, first 2 rounds on campus. I don't need to see Ohio State vs Virginia in the playoffs, but a first round game of Oregon vs Vandy at least has some intrigue. 14 also eliminates the possibility of a top 10 team being jumped by a lower ranked team who's only there because of a conference championship.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

G5 qualifiers need to be no more than two losses and ranked in top 16 or something similar. I have no problem with conference champion auto bids. Gives a lot to the end of season theatrics. Punish the losers though, you don't get it both ways.

I have way more issue with Duke getting in than Tulane. I don't get how we can restrict the G6 with some ranking requirement but not the ACC this year, for instance, given how many competitive advantages there are in the P4 conferences.

Not to mention most teams are probably too scared to schedule the JMUs and Tulanes of the world, anyway, so it's really tough for them to truly be ranked top 15. Not that it can't happen (Cincy).

I'd prefer to see auto-bids stripped entirely but if we are going to be restricting G5 we need to hold the P4 to the same standard. I get that the instances will be rare (UVA vs. Duke - no Miami, FSU, Clemson, for example), but this year is a glaring example of why we should have some sort of checks and balances for auto-bids if they were to remain.

 

[FOTY977]

Keep it at 12 and just do away with all autobids. Problem solved.

Yes but for SEC and BIG taking their toys and going home