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To be fair one of those times included the phantom 4th down face mask.
true, I was impressed the broadcast team went back and confirmed as much even after their officials expert said it was the correct call.

The KVA throat slash & the Sneed late push out of bounds were inexcusable.
 

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I mean he missed an easy one in the NCG. College kickers aren't great usually but extra points are still like 97% plays
You’re right! I forgot that one. Now I have to rethink my comment! I’ll throw him a bone for his game winner against Penn state. He didn’t really cost us a game. He didn’t help us against NIU though.
 

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Honestly all the bitching about not playoff worthy.

Then don’t fucking watch the team anymore. Holy shit it’s exhausting hearing it week after week. If we aren’t a playoff team oh well next season. But god I bet you will all be the first to be celebrating when we win the first playoff game…
 

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Oh my god, “I want to be competitive in big games.” So steamrolling on the ground against USC doesn’t count. Or 300 yards passing against TAMU.



Where did we have terrible goal line play? Price fumbled. That isn’t play calling. That isn’t scheme. We were moving the ball down their throat inside the Redzone there until then.

If you want to be upset with the kicking game and JD for fumbling, yeah. Sure. But to just blanket call out the offense is just pure emotional Bull.
Play calling and execution is all intertwined dude. Every inch of it. You cannot say oh good play call but poor execution so it's ok. Marcus will take the blame too cuz that's what coaches do. Lack of execution is a result of coaching. Not to mention the goal line offense has been bad literally every game except Arkansas

So we forgot last week on the three and outs after big stops because of bad first down play calls? I don't see what you're seeing sorry.. I'll believe the numbers partially but it has not been clean for 4 games in a row. Just hasn't been. Be pissed at me all ya want but the problem is I'm going off the eye ball test and unfortunately that's what the committee will go off of too.
 

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I'm sure I missed 50 or so pages of thoughtful and patient analysis. I'm so confident I won't go back and check.
I would respect you if you didn’t. I don’t get on there but I also don’t take too seriously what a bunch of rabid fans say in the heat of the moment. It’s just a way to vent IMO. Anyone who takes game time threads seriously are sad individuals.
 

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This. Again, we can totally criticize some things rightfully. JD just CANNOT fumble when he did. You can’t miss FGs like we have.

But the defense was stout against the run, made BC have to dink and dunk until they made a bunch of mistakes. That 3rd quarter long drive was aided by a phantom facemask otherwise BC scores 7.

All that said, this could easily be 31 or more to 7 and we’re saying wow great job team in a weird game. Instead everyone is on a ledge.
We are generally good against the run but horrible when it comes to short yardage. Haven’t seen us stop a third or fourth and one ALL season!
 

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All I have to say is 20 November 1993. I’ll happily take the win, ugly or not.

You may return to your regularly scheduled bellyaching.
 

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Here's how I'm going to take this game. A. Fumble cost us seven points; B. Dummo kicking cost us five more points (if we kick the first one then we kick the second one). That's twelve points we simply had, and puked away. So: 25+12 => 37-10 win. Happy.
 

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Honestly all the bitching about not playoff worthy.

Then don’t fucking watch the team anymore. Holy shit it’s exhausting hearing it week after week. If we aren’t a playoff team oh well next season. But god I bet you will all be the first to be celebrating when we win the first playoff game…
True. Wish there was a way to lock the board for an hour or so after the game. I wouldn’t take too seriously what a lot of folks post directly after the game. They’ll cool off and come back around. I get the frustration on both sides. And you’re spot on…if it makes someone that miserable or “ruins their day” if the Irish play bad, it’s time to find a more healthy hobby. I should now…I used to be that guy…and have to constantly remind myself it’s just a game that means nothing in the big picture of life.
 

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Everyone is prisoner of the moment. The people on this board will assume this level of performance will carry forward every single week despite a huge win in our last game and playing toe to toe with two good teams the first two weeks while breaking in a new QB and a new DC.
To be fair we live in a what have you done for me lately world. I'll settle down maybe eventually but the 24 hour rule remains in effect for me as well.

Actually 25 with the time change
 

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Play calling and execution is all intertwined dude. Every inch of it. You cannot say oh good play call but poor execution so it's ok. Marcus will take the blame too cuz that's what coaches do. Lack of execution is a result of coaching. Not to mention the goal line offense has been bad literally every game except Arkansas

So we forgot last week on the three and outs after big stops because of bad first down play calls? I don't see what you're seeing sorry.. I'll believe the numbers partially but it has not been clean for 4 games in a row. Just hasn't been. Be pissed at me all ya want but the problem is I'm going off the eye ball test and unfortunately that's what the committee will go off of too.
What are you even saying right now? Playing calling and execution are intertwined? Well duh. But they also aren’t. You can draw up a perfect play, but if the QB doesn’t hit the WR… shit happens. See the Boise St game on the 4th down post throw.

You, and half the board are falling into the ESPN overreaction trap. It wasn’t a great game. But honestly we dominated the game, the score just doesn’t fully show it. Shit happens.
 

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true, I was impressed the broadcast team went back and confirmed as much even after their officials expert said it was the correct call.

The KVA throat slash & the Sneed late push out of bounds were inexcusable.
Wasn't a throat slash, its a nose wipe, i dont understand it but apparently its quite popular with the kids these days
 

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Worst 15 point win possible. Playoffs likely gone. Refs sucked but not as bad as kicking game. Play calling certainly wasn’t good either. Overall underwhelming effort coming off a bye that simply isn’t or wasn’t good enough.
 

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Honestly all the bitching about not playoff worthy.

Then don’t fucking watch the team anymore. Holy shit it’s exhausting hearing it week after week. If we aren’t a playoff team oh well next season. But god I bet you will all be the first to be celebrating when we win the first playoff game…
Only if we win by at least 20!
 

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What are you even saying right now? Playing calling and execution are intertwined? Well duh. But they also aren’t. You can draw up a perfect play, but if the QB doesn’t hit the WR… shit happens. See the Boise St game on the 4th down post throw.

You, and half the board are falling into the ESPN overreaction trap. It wasn’t a great game. But honestly we dominated the game, the score just doesn’t fully show it. Shit happens.
Agree to disagree guy.

If you don't think the fundamentals that result in a poorly executed play aren't related to coaching then I guess you just play more video games then I do. You are acting like this has only happened once. We have had a red zone turnover now I believe 4 games in a row. How that doesn't point to coaching and offensive execution IDK but this might be something that can't be resolved on a message board. Maybe if we were sitting at the bar it be a different story.

Bottom line is unfortunately for some of us perfection is the standard and although it's impossible to attain unless it's the standard things will not get fixed. Right now some of us are ok with hey offense played well we just didn't finish. Well sorry that's a problem to me and if you don't agree then we're never going to do might as well walk away
 

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Great to see us only give up 10 points but the lopsided time of possession was alarming. Between our fucjhead so called first team kicker setting the tone for the game being a big batch of mistakes to Prices boneheaded fumble they stole all our mojo in the first half. I’d like to think someone has a heart to heart with price about it. Burnette can eat a bag.
 

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Agree to disagree guy.

If you don't think the fundamentals that result in a poorly executed play aren't related to coaching then I guess you just play more video games then I do. You are acting like this has only happened once. We have had a red zone turnover now I believe 4 games in a row. How that doesn't point to coaching and offensive execution IDK but this might be something that can't be resolved on a message board. Maybe if we were sitting at the bar it be a different story.

Bottom line is unfortunately for some of us perfection is the standard and although it's impossible to attain unless it's the standard things will not get fixed. Right now some of us are ok with hey offense played well we just didn't finish. Well sorry that's a problem to me and if you don't agree then we're never going to do might as well walk away
100% agree. You want to see guys play to a level they are clearly capable of. When Carr misses a wide open receiver for a TD and had plenty of time you want to bitch about it. When Price has had issues with redIne fumbles and then proceeds to fumble again we get rightfully pissed! When guys like Sneed or KVA make stupid AF avoidable penalties you want to vent. Extra points are converted by 100’s of college kickers every week. We cannot have any more special team boners.
Side point; have we seen all of the Denbrock playbook if so it is vanilla AF and nothing special. No pitches or shovel passes or jet sweeps and no bubble screens or screens in general. Our offense is succeeding in spite of his overrated ass. He has better athletes than his competition and that’s the only reason he is succeeding. He is nothing special. I’d take Charlie Wei’s jr all day over his old ass.
 

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What are you even saying right now? Playing calling and execution are intertwined? Well duh. But they also aren’t. You can draw up a perfect play, but if the QB doesn’t hit the WR… shit happens. See the Boise St game on the 4th down post throw.

You, and half the board are falling into the ESPN overreaction trap. It wasn’t a great game. But honestly we dominated the game, the score just doesn’t fully show it. Shit happens.
We also don't really know what this game "does" to us (if anything) until the rankings come out. If we come out ranked like 18 or something, then maybe the committee just never liked us and this game just fueled their dislike. But we don't know that until Tuesday.
 

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Honestly all the bitching about not playoff worthy.

Then don’t fucking watch the team anymore. Holy shit it’s exhausting hearing it week after week. If we aren’t a playoff team oh well next season. But god I bet you will all be the first to be celebrating when we win the first playoff game…
The nuance is, that we already have two losses, so we have to sort of play the game in terms of winning with style—especially with one of our quality losses losing some quality.

If we were a one loss team, I’d probably agree. But we’re already in the danger zone.
 

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Honestly all the bitching about not playoff worthy.

Then don’t fucking watch the team anymore. Holy shit it’s exhausting hearing it week after week. If we aren’t a playoff team oh well next season. But god I bet you will all be the first to be celebrating when we win the first playoff game…
If we'd covered (spread was 30.5 IIRC) we wouldn't be complaining. This was a close game entering the fourth quarter.
 

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And Boise got their ass mocked today so there goes another decent win into a nobody win. We should have won 42-7
 

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We also don't really know what this game "does" to us (if anything) until the rankings come out. If we come out ranked like 18 or something, then maybe the committee just never liked us and this game just fueled their dislike. But we don't know that until Tuesday.
That's why you don't leave it up to the committee and dominate teams the way you are supposed to. Leave nothing to chance.
 

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If we'd covered (spread was 30.5 IIRC) we wouldn't be complaining. This was a close game entering the fourth quarter.
Meh. There was never a doubt to me that ND was going to lose. It was clear which team would win.
 

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I think many of us are being persnickety on the team’s play today because:

1) We need to win AND look good (incl. strong game control) doing it for style points in a crowded group of 1- and 2-loss teams in CFP contention
2) We can do better, we did a lot to ourselves today
3) O play calling, D composure and discipline, and kicking game all need to improve
4) If this were a playoff game like our performance last year with close games like PSU, we’re obviously grateful to come away w/ the W , but this was still at end of day, a 1-7 BC team even if they do have a talented QB. Hey, we won handily over a hot Jayden Maiava-led USC team so we SHOULD have done so this PM as well

Here’s to fine tuning and turning things around this week and then crushing Navy and Pitt! 🍀🍀🍀
 
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