Chris "Belt To" Ash - Defensive Coordinator

[T-Boone]

Agreed but if you want an optimistic view, things should/could start to cascade in positive manner as quickly as they did negatively

Last two games have been two good OLs with twitchy WRs beating our DL, suspect backup CBs and with little help from the safeties.

Well you could be facing weaker WRs and OL from here on out, you could be making a change at safety to Tae Johnson and get Devonta Smith back

So I think there is a clear personnel/talent issue at spots, there is a way you can see it quickly change if you squint, and any remaining deficiencies then get covered up as well (ex Gray)

As I read this I could sensed my bedsheets (Star Wars themed) drying up.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Don't quote me or anything...but I like "Ass" better.

Nothing wrong with being an Ass man.

 

[SportsingHard]

Nothing wrong with being an Ass man.

 

[PutuporShutup]

No I actually have the ability to consume information but critically think, contextualize it instead of just making something up or grossly exaggerating something in an attempt to justify an opinion I can’t verbalize otherwise.

In short, it’s bad, not good. Hope that helps. Did it really go over your head I intentionally posted that right after our discussion?

We all got it dale

I just love you posted a chart that shows Indiana ecu and app should be some of the most feared teams

 

[PutuporShutup]

20+ points to Purdue and his name is getting changed to Chris Trash

You think we hold them under 20?

I think we hold them under 20 if we play more ball control and score maybe low 30s… if we light it up like we should, I would be shocked if we don’t bust at least one coverage for a long td, or setting up a td

 

[Bane]

I honestly wasn't that impressed with Freeman as a DC in his sole year in the position here, but I'd take his input in a second over Ash's. Freeman was sandwiched between Lea and Golden, and I thought both were better in the position (Although I like Freeman as HC).

On paper the defense's numbers looked good in '21, but we also faced a lot of inept offenses. Toledo, Purdue, Wisconsin, VT, Navy, Virginia, Stanford, GT were all mediocre to bad offensively that year. I wouldn't even say a 5 win FSU or a 4 win USC were particularly great offenses that year either. Statistically the best offenses we faced during the regular season were Cinci and North Carolina. Those two were strong, but that's as far as I'd go, the others weren't big threats to score or they shouldn't have been. So Freeman looked good that year, but it wasn't hard to look good against poor competition.

I was just thinking about this making dinner. Freeman was a good, but not great DC and he definitely wasn't as good as Lea and I don't think he was good as Elko either.

 

[Bane]

I'm now convinced that Belichik's success was 100% attributed to having the best QB of all time.

I cannot abide this BB slander. It's 50/50 to me. Belichik and his defenses absolutely carried Brady through their first dynasty run. It didn't start to switch until 2007. Then it was probably equal for awhile, but yes the 2010s were definitely Brady carrying BB. It's sort of like that Ninja Turtles and Master Splinter meme.

 

[Free Manera]

Don't quote me or anything...but I like "Ass" better.

 

[Katzenboyer]

I cannot abide this BB slander. It's 50/50 to me. Belichik and his defenses absolutely carried Brady through their first dynasty run. It didn't start to switch until 2007. Then it was probably equal for awhile, but yes the 2010s were definitely Brady carrying BB. It's sort of like that Ninja Turtles and Master Splinter meme.

I love Brady, and Belichick's post-Pats act definitely has me looking at him sideways.

But it's crazy to think BB only succeeded because of Brady (or vice versa). Brady doesn't have six rings with the Pats (seven total) without Belichick, and Belichick doesn't have those titles without Brady.

It was a perfect matchup of coach and player.

 

[Bane]

I love Brady, and Belichick's post-Pats act definitely has me looking at him sideways.

But it's crazy to think BB only succeeded because of Brady (or vice versa). Brady doesn't have six rings with the Pats (seven total) without Belichick, and Belichick doesn't have those titles without Brady.

It was a perfect matchup of coach and player.

Brady just recently credit Belichick with really helping him develop as a young QB by making start to learn defenses like a defensive coordinator. He said it really helped him understand what the other team was trying to accomplish on defense and he was able to check into better calls more efficiently and effectively because of it.

 

[IrelandIrish]

Chris calling his zone coverage.

 

[FWIrish4]

I want to give Greg and Jamie their flowers. I highly recommend their latest pod breaking down film. Jamie goes on a great segment with film about what the defense was doing under golden vs. what they’re doing now. Incredibly insightful.

 

[Hautian Domer]

Isn’t this ass clown some stickler on tackling? Rugby tackling or some shit? I’ve never seen a Notre Dame defense have such piss poor tackling in my life.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Isn’t this ass clown some stickler on tackling? Rugby tackling or some shit? I’ve never seen a Notre Dame defense have such piss poor tackling in my life.

You havent been watching very long then.

 

[PolishDomer]

Chris calling his zone coverage.

Secret video from Chris Ass' office...now it makes sense with all the weird play calls

 

[Rocketman84]

Goddamn, if even AP wouldn't let the guy coach you know he's straight ass.

I mean his NFL defenses were 28th and 29th (out of 32) against the pass, while his college defenses are on average ranked in the 90's (out of 130). Of course, you hire this guy if you want every QB to look like Graham Harrell at Texas Tech.

 

[NDFAN2008]

If we give up more than 21 to Purdue he should be canned

 

[FDNYIrish1]

I keep thinking there are such easy corrections to get back on track and salvage the season. That someone will come in and voice common sense adjustments. Then I remember hoping the same thing when Parker was here and now I’m sad.

 

[Irish#1]

We all got it dale

I just love you posted a chart that shows Indiana ecu and app should be some of the most feared teams

C'mon. Everyone know that Indiana St is a juggernaut, as is Kennesaw ST and Old Dominion.

 

[stlnd01]

I keep thinking there are such easy corrections to get back on track and salvage the season. That someone will come in and voice common sense adjustments. Then I remember hoping the same thing when Parker was here and now I’m sad.

The fixes on defense are probably easier than the fixes on offense were that year. Aside maybe from nickel it's not really a personnel issue. We just need to simplify things, and get back to attacking.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Player

C'mon. Everyone know that Indiana St is a juggernaut, as is Kennesaw ST and Old Dominion.

Don't tell Brent Pry that Old Dominion isn't a juggernaut

 

[PolishDomer]

The lawful good defense we have under ash isn’t gonna get us through the next dungeon.

It looks like Chris Ash keeps rolling 1s in every defensive scenario check...

 

[PutuporShutup]

Defensive staff/ash coaching, scheme, development, communication, motivation are the biggest issue. With that said, I expect to learn a lot about our individual ability on the defensive side this weekend. We played two good/really good teams that exposed our weaknesses. Are they truly weaknesses by individual players or were Miami and A&Ms players just that much better going against us at those specific spots/plays. Obviously, our coaching didn't help or put us in better spots to protect our weaknesses.

Dline - Coaches and players stated how good and deep our dline is, and freeman said the middle of the line going into fall camp was his biggest concern, but they've exceeded expectations in fall camp - then games started - the Dline hasn't done anything

Botelho/Traore - Not themselves yet, not overly explosive
Young - Miami he didn't play much when we needed pressure, then A&M our dline was asked to contain (that didn't work)
Interior Dline - Freeman hyped onye up big time, he's been ok, hinish has been terrible, dawson has been the best interior with rubio serviceable

Bowen - He's been average at best to start the season, and probably as bad as you can be in coverage for a LB. KVA needs to take over his spot

Gray - His rebound year has been a continuous decline instead.

Did ND just happen to play two great Olines with Top WRs or do we have major personnel issues as well?

If our dline isn't whipping purdue, and we don't make a bunch of plays in the secondary vs purdue it will be clear it's not only coaching but we have major issues personnel wise (to be championship caliber).

 

[IrishLax]

 

[irishnd31]

Secret video from Chris Ass' office...now it makes sense with all the weird play calls

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If we play with half of that fire, we win convincingly...

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Is this a potential Chris Ass replacement?

 

[CIrishWin]

Who are the top 10 DC's we need to be looking at if Ash can not turn this thing around.

 

[IrishBryan77]

Let's give John Tenuta another sniff. 🤣🤣🤣

 

[GowerND11]

Can we not have this thread right now? We're two games into the season, and we already have a Chris Ash Ass where this can be discussed.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Who are the top 10 DC's we need to be looking at if Ash can not turn this thing around.

I think your next coordinator is one of these 5 guys ( Mickens, Bryant Haines Indiana, Tony White Florida State, Dave Aranda, Jon Heacock) dark horse John Butler Nebraska, I also like Doug Belk from USC he is their DB coach but also has DC experience at Houston also like Tim Banks from TENN