'23 CA QB Nico Iamaleava (Tennessee Verbal)

[dad4aa]

No one wanted this

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

No one wanted this

A majority of people over 65 didn't want this.

New study shows younger fans embrace NIL, with brands positioned to benefit

Opinions about paying college players vary largely by age group. The majority of college sports fans who are 18-34 believe that college athletes should be paid a salary on top of their name, image and likeness sponsorships. But fans 65-and-over don’t show the same enthusiasm for paying players...

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

Poll: Americans Support NCAA NIL Rights - Global Sport Matters

While 2021 was a year of change, the adoption of NIL is widely supported but has yet to transform Americans’ perception of college sports.

globalsportmatters.com

 

[dad4aa]

That’s a stupid comment because no one in my office is over 65 and none if us wanted this nor does anyone I have talked with want this. Players getting paid….definitely. Creating an unregulated legal way to buy a team with no restrictions…no. I don’t believe anyone wanted that.

 

[FWIrish4]

A majority of people over 65 didn't want this.

New study shows younger fans embrace NIL, with brands positioned to benefit

Opinions about paying college players vary largely by age group. The majority of college sports fans who are 18-34 believe that college athletes should be paid a salary on top of their name, image and likeness sponsorships. But fans 65-and-over don’t show the same enthusiasm for paying players...

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

Poll: Americans Support NCAA NIL Rights - Global Sport Matters

While 2021 was a year of change, the adoption of NIL is widely supported but has yet to transform Americans’ perception of college sports.

globalsportmatters.com

As a person that’s 30 and played college baseball, what athletes wanted was the ability to earn off our likeness just like any other student.

That was the intent of the rule, but for some reason the idea that kids can operate in free agency without guardrails is now acceptable to everyone that reports on the sport. It’s become a madhouse and kids are going to be taken advantage of (ie: Jordan Addison) which none of the proponents of pay the players (looking at you Jay Bilas) will talk about. Pay for play tied to a specific school is not allowed, but that is what this turned into and everyone’s just turning a blind eye to it.

They damn sure won’t talk about the drop in kids graduating because the transfer portal is so easy now. It’ll be interesting to see what the numbers are after a couple of years of this. There’s already a large % of kids who enter the transfer portal and never find a new school to enroll into.

 

[Irish du Nord]

As a person that’s 30 and played college baseball, what athletes wanted was the ability to earn off our likeness just like any other student.

That was the intent of the rule, but for some reason the idea that kids can operate in free agency without guardrails is now acceptable to everyone that reports on the sport. It’s become a madhouse and kids are going to be taken advantage of (ie: Jordan Addison) which none of the proponents of pay the players (looking at you Jay Bilas) will talk about. Pay for play tied to a specific school is not allowed, but that is what this turned into and everyone’s just turning a blind eye to it.

They damn sure won’t talk about the drop in kids graduating because the transfer portal is so easy now. It’ll be interesting to see what the numbers are after a couple of years of this. There’s already a large % of kids who enter the transfer portal and never find a new school to enroll into.

It was always interesting to me how loudly a lot of voices on ESPN or other sport media would tear apart the NCAA or universities for profiting off of college sports while their employers wrote the big checks that precipitated the end of amateurism.

 

[irishff1014]

Things could get real interesting when some of these Big NIL players stumble. Coach benches the Big NIL player because he views it as best for the team. Meanwhile, the big money boosters who are on the hook for 8 million dollars, want a return on their investment, pressure the coach to keep their guy in the starting lineup.

I have already made this same comment. Players are gonna be ready to play but because some old billionaire thinks because he paid for this player he gets to call the shots. Then while he is pushing his will they’ll fire the coach because now he has 15 bosses.

And just wait til you get some of these stupid corporations like Nike that are giving parents jobs to buy the kids to their university. I can’t wait til they start show favoritism to these parents and the employees get feed up quit or even better sue the Corporations. (And I think most lawsuits are bullshit).

 

[IrishLax]

Looks like this might be an unpopular opinion, but I actually prefer the era of NIL to the era of "these dozen schools are rampantly cheating while everyone else tries reasonably hard to follow the rules." At least this is all above board (with the notable caveat that a handful of schools [A&M, Texas, Miami, Oregon, Tennessee, Louisville, etc.] are not following the same "guidance" about what you can offer in writing up front).

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Need some sort of "salary cap"

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Need some sort of "salary cap"

It's difficult. I thought that too, however, there are tons of non athletes using their image/likness to make a ton of money. Who is to say these athletes shouldn't get paid more than them?

 

[notredomer23]

I wonder what would happen with these mega deals if the NFL 3 years out of high school policy changed to 2 years or had 1 and dones. I suspect NIL would mostly be used as it is intended.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

And just wait til you get some of these stupid corporations like Nike that are giving parents jobs to buy the kids to their university. I can’t wait til they start show favoritism to these parents and the employees get feed up quit or even better sue the Corporations. (And I think most lawsuits are bullshit).

Don't count on it. At a multinational corporation like Nike, it's trivially easy to put him on the payroll for a no-show "work from home" job. I'd be very surprised if Dante's parents ever end up doing any actual work for Nike.

 

[stlnd01]

Don't count on it. At a multinational corporation like Nike, it's trivially easy to put him on the payroll for a no-show "work from home" job. I'd be very surprised if Dante's parents ever end up doing any actual work for Nike.

He can be a "brand ambassador" in Michigan or something. Whatever.

 

[stpeteirish]

So are these NIL deals written contracts or just "handshake agreements"?
If there are contracts who's writing them? I doubt if its the players. So the contracts probably give the payor an out clause which means the kid who never wins the starting job gets cut off from the cash flow.

Pretty stinky if you ask me.

 

[dad4aa]

So are these NIL deals written contracts or just "handshake agreements"?
If there are contracts who's writing them? I doubt if its the players. So the contracts probably give the payor an out clause which means the kid who never wins the starting job gets cut off from the cash flow.

Pretty stinky if you ask me.

What’s wrong with that? NIL was always supposed to make sure, if a school or company makes money off your Name, Image or Likeness you should get paid. If you come in as a 5* recruit but suck and never get on the field, no one is buying your jersey, bobble head, etc so no one is making money off you. That means you don’t get paid. That was the whole point of NIL before some asshole agents and boosters turned it into something else.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Looks like this might be an unpopular opinion, but I actually prefer the era of NIL to the era of "these dozen schools are rampantly cheating while everyone else tries reasonably hard to follow the rules." At least this is all above board (with the notable caveat that a handful of schools [A&M, Texas, Miami, Oregon, Tennessee, Louisville, etc.] are not following the same "guidance" about what you can offer in writing up front).

Wouldnt the counterpoint be that isnt it basically the same thing then if you have the majority of schools out there trying to play by one set of rules, and a “handful of schools” playing outside of those lines? Seems like its just kicking the can further down the street.

 

[BobbyMac]

Looks like this might be an unpopular opinion, but I actually prefer the era of NIL to the era of "these dozen schools are rampantly cheating while everyone else tries reasonably hard to follow the rules." At least this is all above board (with the notable caveat that a handful of schools [A&M, Texas, Miami, Oregon, Tennessee, Louisville, etc.] are not following the same "guidance" about what you can offer in writing up front).

Thank you.

Anything to shake up the status quo at the same time ND has a Top 3 recruiting machine.

What's not to like?

 

[NDdomer2]

Looks like this might be an unpopular opinion, but I actually prefer the era of NIL to the era of "these dozen schools are rampantly cheating while everyone else tries reasonably hard to follow the rules." At least this is all above board (with the notable caveat that a handful of schools [A&M, Texas, Miami, Oregon, Tennessee, Louisville, etc.] are not following the same "guidance" about what you can offer in writing up front).

i dont disagree but there is some part of this that just sounds like its the same but different.

 

[allenm5333]

Long-term NIL will be better. But the NCAA rolling it out with no structure is bad

 

[IrishLion]

i dont disagree but there is some part of this that just sounds like its the same but different.

It is the same but different, but at least high-level players are more widely accessible now. Instead of a top 10%, you've got a top 20% willing to play the game and land the big fish.

Like others have said, it may help ND close the gap as long as FUND is doing its thing and putting evidence out there for the coaching staff to use in recruiting.

"We can't promise you a lump sum up front... but we can show you what kind of deals our players were involved with once they enrolled."

 

[Dale]

Feels like the Nico won’t play his senior season was probably a game of telephone. Someone probably found out he wasn’t going to Poly anymore, doesn’t mean he wasn’t playing at all anymore.

 

[irishff1014]

Nah, it’s going to be more transparent now. We’ve seen HC leave for more money, now we get to see teenagers leave for more money. Meanwhile, it brings schools like ND to the forefront as a university that student-athletes choose vs choosing a HC (& now NIL deal). Make no mistake, the majority of the top recruits choose a HC…not the school (prior to NIL). That’s why the Sabans, Fishers, Swinneys, Rileys etc command the big money. Now if/when a kid chooses a school based on NIL, what happens when that kid doesn’t produce? Business people aren’t going to fork out money for busts for very long. Or what happens when he out performs his expectations? He’s leaving for a better deal. This is what everyone wanted. Now we have it so sit back and enjoy whining & gnashing of teeth.

That's your opinion. You saw mine. That's how the world works.

 

[luckofirish8]

I read today (but can't confirm) that this guy has signed his LOI and will be on campus for 2022 bowl practice through a loophole. Has anyone heard this?

 

[Dale]

 

[Dale]

It’s funny because he wasn’t good, like at all last year

 

[Fbolt]

Damn

2024 Stats:

• YDS
  2,616
• TD
  19
• INT
  5
• QBR
  70.5
  Tied-36th

 

[DONTH8]

It’s funny because he wasn’t good, like at all last year

Tennessee finding out that he wants to renegotiate his contract:

"That's interesting, we were thinking the same thing..."

 

[Katzenboyer]

Damn

2024 Stats:

• YDS
  2,616
• TD
  19
• INT
  5
• QBR
  70.5
  Tied-36th

14 of his 19 total TDs came against Vanderbilt (7-6), UTEP (3-9), Mississippi State (2-10), Kent State (1-11) and Chatanooga (FCS, 7-5).

 

[Katzenboyer]

*stands on soap box*

Look.

I'm all for NIL. I think these guys should be getting money when they play. That being said:

• Iamaleave got $8M to sign with UT;
• At BEST, you can call his career thus far mediocre;
• He absolutely sucked against OSU in the playoffs; yet
• He's holding out for more money rather than spending his time competing with his teammates this spring.

Notre Dame isn't perfect, and I'm not saying that they are. But this is the exact reason why ND shouldn't, and seemingly is not, simply handing kids big $$ (as many on this board want) when it's made clear during the recruiting process that the individual is only looking for the largest bag.

I'd so much rather reward the players who WANT TO BE at ND with financial compensation, rather than simply handing out cash to get them to sign on the dotted line. I love ND's approach as it currently stands, even if it doesn't guarantee Top 5 recruiting classes year-after-year; there's simply no justification for this kid demanding to be treated in a way separate and apart from his teammates, and if I was Heupel I'd tell him to kick rocks.

*steps off soapbox*

 

[pumpdog20]

This is/could be getting really gross for CFB. I don't like it where this is heading.

 

[Katzenboyer]

This is/could be getting really gross for CFB. I don't like it where this is heading.

It's only gross if you choose to engage in it.

This kid made it VERY clear during the recruiting process that he was going to go to the highest bidder, and Tenn chose to throw their hat in the ring. You live by the sword, you die by the sword.

ND isn't playing this game, and while that may be frustrating to many on this board, this is largely the reason why. You don't want your kids acting like mercenaries, then don't make them central to your program. Simple as that.