Michael Fredrick Denbrock Hired as Offensive Coordinator (2023)

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I think the offense will be better next year and people will attribute it to what you mentioned, but I think it'll be because our OL is going to push people's shit in next year.
If Carr is what we all hope he is, our offense next year could be extremely good. Love and whoever else at RB. Greathouse and Faison in their third years, with Fields and hopefully Williams/Gilbert as well. The OL...
 

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I’ll say this again but what game were some of you watching? “Offense unimaginative and conservative”? “Leonard losing this game for us and shrinking in the big moment?”

I don’t see that at all. That was the best performance the offense has put up all season long, especially taking into account the opponent.

We lost this game on defense plain and simple. I believe we went away from our identity and let the pre game talk get to us. That’s on Freeman and Golden.

But I have no doubt Freeman will turn this loss into a lesson on route to a championship. Go Irish!
 
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I think the offense will be better next year and people will attribute it to what you mentioned, but I think it'll be because our OL is going to push people's shit in next year.
This 100%.

The run game in 2024 was not very good IMO. It was hidden by Love and Price having long runs.

I'm 2025 the expectation should be an OL that can actually maul people.
 

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With a mash unit of young, inexperienced players on OL and a QB that couldn't. hit routine passes at various stretches of the season, Denbrock crafted an offense that was the highest scoring in our history? And did enough to get us to the natty?

I realize it was complimentary football, defensive scores, etc. That shouldn't be dismissed but he still did a helluva job with some severe limitations. This offseason is going to be fun!

We'll get to speculate on the QB with Carr the supposed frontrunner. Lots of RB options, massive potential on the OL and our best, most explosive weapons all back for another year. We need a TE to elevate.

What a fun season we just experienced, Denbrock was most certainly the right man at the right time.
 

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I’m interested to see what happens without the QB run game next year, but anyone blaming Denbrock for last night is crazy. That was arguably the best any offense has played against Ohio State’s #1 defense all year.

Oregon in their first game had 11 total possessions (three short field)… on 8 long field possessions they had 3 TDs and a field goal.
 

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I’m interested to see what happens without the QB run game next year, but anyone blaming Denbrock for last night is crazy. That was arguably the best any offense has played against Ohio State’s #1 defense all year.

Oregon in their first game had 11 total possessions (three short field)… on 8 long field possessions they had 3 TDs and a field goal.

We were 1 of 2 teams to score 20+ points on OSU. the other was Oregon.
 

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I’ll say this again but what game were some of you watching? “Offense unimaginative and conservative”? “Leonard losing this game for us and shrinking in the big moment?”

I don’t see that at all. That was the best performance the offense has put up all season long, especially taking into account the opponent.

We lost this game on defense plain and simple. I believe we went away from our identity and let the pre game talk get to us. That’s on Freeman and Golden.

But I have no doubt Freeman will turn this loss into a lesson on route to a championship. Go Irish!

We lost with defense and this offense on the second and 3rd drives of the game
 

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I’m interested to see what happens without the QB run game next year, but anyone blaming Denbrock for last night is crazy.
It's pretty typical for the average viewer to blame coaches for a loss. That first drive was incredible and I think Denbrock overall did a great job not only last night but throughout the season. He just came into the program again and last year coached the Heisman Trophy winner and likely NFL Rookie of the Year. Riley Leonard is a tough dude, and I admire his play this year, but Jayden Daniels he is not.

The personnel on this offense NEVER leant itself to being down 31-7. With four minutes to go, they were suddenly 31-23 and had overtime within reach. That's impressive. He took what he had and made the most of it.

Denbrock is not perfect. Nobody is. That being said, I want to see what he can do with personnel that will allow him to do things he did with Ridder and Daniels at QB. There has to be more of a balance with passing and rushing. You don't lose your identity as a physical running team, but you have to be able to get the ball downfield on a more consistent and accurate basis. If CJ Carr is the Prince that was Promised, we could be in business.

I think there is something there with Greathouse, Faison, Raridon in the passing game. We'll see what youngsters and portal guys can step in. The running backs are there and then some.

Feels like we're just getting started offensively.
 

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I’m interested to see what happens without the QB run game next year, but anyone blaming Denbrock for last night is crazy. That was arguably the best any offense has played against Ohio State’s #1 defense all year.

Oregon in their first game had 11 total possessions (three short field)… on 8 long field possessions they had 3 TDs and a field goal.


He called some easy pass plays on some of those drives and Riley couldn’t throw them well enough.
 

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This 100%.

The run game in 2024 was not very good IMO. It was hidden by Love and Price having long runs.

I'm 2025 the expectation should be an OL that can actually maul people.
Dude stop. They finished averaging over 200 yds/game. WTF are you talking about? Isn’t having long runs part of what makes it a good run game? Would you rather they ran out of bounds after 20 yards than completing a 50 yd run so they could come back w a few more 10 yarders?
 

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This 100%.

The run game in 2024 was not very good IMO. It was hidden by Love and Price having long runs.

I'm 2025 the expectation should be an OL that can actually maul people.

What if I said the ND run game was designed to hit explosives (1st)? and what if they were still 23rd in Success Rate? and this results in a run game ranked 2nd in PPA?
 

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Dude stop. They finished averaging over 200 yds/game. WTF are you talking about? Isn’t having long runs part of what makes it a good run game? Would you rather they ran out of bounds after 20 yards than completing a 50 yd run so they could come back w a few more 10 yarders?
Agree. We were not only explosive in the run game but we also seemed great at 3rd and short and 4th and short (RL was the main reason). If I'm thinking about the top two things I'd want out of a run game, it would be those two things.
 

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He knew what he had in Leonard and the offense and his job was not to win the game(s) but rather to not lose them with the defense they had. This hurt him in big moments but overall I was pleased with the job he did given the guy under center.
 

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The offense has the potential to be top 5 next year. Not worried about the QB position at all, I think we have 3 capable guys on campus already
 

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He seems like he has helped the WR’s by getting open with his motions and play design.

Riley struggled to throw the ball at times but the second half of the championship was neat. I would have liked to see that more during the season.
 

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Dude stop. They finished averaging over 200 yds/game. WTF are you talking about? Isn’t having long runs part of what makes it a good run game? Would you rather they ran out of bounds after 20 yards than completing a 50 yd run so they could come back w a few more 10 yarders?
Notre Dame simply did not have a bunch of maulers on the OL that were going to dependably give ND lanes inside the tackles against elite DLs. I thought that was the case against Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, and Indiana. Love being an NFL talent masked the reality that the ND OL was really an OL of injured players and backups playing out of position to get the job done.

That's just my opinion. If Love and Price didn't house one on the outside because they are NFL talents, they were going to average 3 yards per run.

Next year, CFB talking heads are rightfully pointing out that ND should return their pick of the litter on the OL, get guys into the right position, and get healthy. They should have a bunch of maulers and be among the best OL in the country.

I'm sorry if I hurt any feelings with my opinion.
 

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Notre Dame simply did not have a bunch of maulers on the OL that were going to dependably give ND lanes inside the tackles against elite DLs. I thought that was the case against Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, and Indiana. Love being an NFL talent masked the reality that the ND OL was really an OL of injured players and backups playing out of position to get the job done.

That's just my opinion. If Love and Price didn't house one on the outside because they are NFL talents, they were going to average 3 yards per run.

Next year, CFB talking heads are rightfully pointing out that ND should return their pick of the litter on the OL, get guys into the right position, and get healthy. They should have a bunch of maulers and be among the best OL in the country.

I'm sorry if I hurt any feelings with my opinion.
Love and Leonard both helped the OL out a ton.
 

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Notre Dame simply did not have a bunch of maulers on the OL that were going to dependably give ND lanes inside the tackles against elite DLs. I thought that was the case against Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, and Indiana. Love being an NFL talent masked the reality that the ND OL was really an OL of injured players and backups playing out of position to get the job done.

That's just my opinion. If Love and Price didn't house one on the outside because they are NFL talents, they were going to average 3 yards per run.

Next year, CFB talking heads are rightfully pointing out that ND should return their pick of the litter on the OL, get guys into the right position, and get healthy. They should have a bunch of maulers and be among the best OL in the country.

I'm sorry if I hurt any feelings with my opinion.
Well, not hurt feelings, but believe there is more to the equation. Those who stacked the box, with strong talent, did mute the running game. Those who did with adequate talent, were burnt.
So while I understand your premise, I think it points more largely to the softness across many companies.
 

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I think there’s an important distinction happening. The run game as a whole and the OL unit are two different things. The run game was certainly not poor
 

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The offensive line mauled OSU on the first drive.

The second drive started with a terrible throw by RL, followed by a false start, followed by a holding call. They ran a bullshit draw on 2nd and a mile and there was actually some push but the back just ran into a pile and fell down. They punted after a short pass on 3rd down.

They started the third drive with Wagner launching Sawyer like a bitch and RL picked up six. Incomplete on second down and snapped into Evans on third down.

The fourth drive was a play or two and the half ended.

They were down 28-7 on the fifth drive with about 10 minutes to play in the third. That was a series of pass plays, a fake punt and OSU FG.

Sixth drive they were down 31-7.

You can't grind out a victory on the ground when you're down four possessions with 20 minutes left to play. OSU's ability to score and control possession neutralized Notre Dame's run game. It reminded me of the greatest show on turf Rams, where their defense was dominant b/c they played with a 3 possession lead most of the season.

The oline played well in the limited opportunities they had. RL, as usual, was reliable on 3rd and short, but overall, the ball carriers, including RL and the receiver on the end-around, didn't run too well. Too many yards were left on the field. To be fair, RL was gassed, Love is hurt and Price didn't get enough carries to find a rythym.

Jagasah is a difference maker. He just has next level power. You can see it clearly on RL's touchdown run in the first quarter - he effortlessly bench pressed and shoved #44 a couple of yards into the end zone with one arm. A few plays earlier, he drove a pile of humanity five yards down the field. The kid is an animal.
 

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The offense has the potential to be top 5 next year. Not worried about the QB position at all, I think we have 3 capable guys on campus already
Also it's kind of wild but when you look at our 2025 roster, every single player on our offense (except the two incoming transfer wide receivers) has eligibility to come back in 2026. Obviously I wouldn't count on Love beyond next year, and there's a couple others who could choose the draft (Greathouse, Wagner), but we could be set up for awhile to come.
 

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Did not listen but I guess they made a deal of it some of the quotes from Denbrock on the II pod?


assume it’s these ones?

“More than anything it's just confidence and consistency in what you're doing. We were not very confident in anything we did in the passing game a year ago. That I think you'll see take a huge leap into year two. I think that will come from a number of positions not just the wide receivers.”

“The things that they're (young receivers) doing and showing on the practice field now are way more detail-oriented than they were at any time last year, even at the end of the season. “
 
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