Irish du Nord
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Both had way more successful careers than can be expected for him at this point imo
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dublinirish
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tbf if you are white, a pocket passer and semi functional, thats a ten year run in the NFL
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Don’t see this happening with dt’s
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And he left High school early so he could get NIL money from OSU
Before I go further, do you know anything about employment law? What the NCAA has argued in court? I ask because the answers to your questions....1. different governing laws/rules, 2. the NCAA says they aren't... are pretty basic to the topic and I'm trying to figure out if you're fucking with me.
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He would be lucky to have a career like Fitzmagic!
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I can't believe what Beck got, given the year he had and the injury he just suffered. But it's supply and demand. There weren't that many proven QBs in the portal this year (compared with the last couple) and a lot of money sloshing around.
If Ewers came back next year, he'd one of just two quarterbacks in the sport with a playoff win on his resume (the other being Allar, and we know how his second playoff game went for him). If you aspire to win playoff games - like, say, Oregon does - maybe you pay up for a QB who's done it before.
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No, my comments were from an uneducated/lay-person understanding of money exchanged for #things. I'd appreciate an education but if someone has already covered it in detail, I'd be happy to read it if you have links.
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It might depend on when, exactly, he would leave - our guys will basically have next week to enter the portal and I don't think assistant coach departures trigger the new window the way head coaches do - but... barring a wholesale change of the defensive staff I kinda doubt it?
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Unless you’re a recent former ND QB: Mirer, Clausen, Quinn, Book all fell short of 10 years. TBF, Book probably not considered a pocket passer but the other 3 definitely were & were also semi-functional. Still made some nice coin w/ NFL pension though & avoided CTE
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the pool of elite NFL Qb's reduces every year though, and its easier now for guys to stick around as backups with the practice squads and spring leagues etc
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To do what?
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Several of those were drafted onto horrendous teams. I can see how that would be hard to overcome.
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To get drafted I assume
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Do they mean mid-season or something? That is probably the next step. Play 3 or 4 games in the season for Alabama then transfer to OSU or some such for the last few months of the same season.
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Even the NCAA doesn't want to defend what Wisconsin was trying to do, especially since they are about to get sued for this. Charlie Baker is probably thinking he only needs to hold this thing together with duct tape and chewing gum for a few more months.
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Whatever made up authority the NCAA tried to claim no long exists. It was all a facade and schools are just now realizing it. The NcAA is now what we all wished it would be for so long.
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I don’t think that’s true, I think most people wanted the NCAA to enforce the rules consistently. The schools were only able to get away with it because the NCAA was more greedy than they cared about being consistent. They could’ve dropped the hammer on the rule benders
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All of these insane rulings where the NCAA loses credibility time and time again makes me hopeful that College Football will detach itself from the NCAA (and maybe College Basketball with it) and allow the rest of collegiate athletics to return to the conferences as they were where it actually benefits the student athletes.
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I mean, certainly there is some loop hole Leonard can exploit, right?!?
Okay, thank you. I appreciate you humoring my skepticism and you aren't crazy off in thinking they are already employees because of current NIL deals. I strongly believe they should be employees already.
When I say "make them employees", I'm saying that I want them to fall under wage and hour laws. Currently, college athletes do not. I think full professionalism, most likely with collective bargaining, is the only way to control transfers. It's not an easy solution. It will be complicated and require Congress to make new laws creating carve outs in existing federal employment laws, federalism will an issue, Title IX would have to be addressed for any revenue sharing, collective bargaining, and many more. It would solve a lot of the current gripes, though.
Too much money and a stubborn NCAA's hubris is how we ended up with the current chaos.
Here are words about how college athletes are currently not employees w/arguments for why they should be. It's also a good starting point if you want things to google for self smarting. There has been further movement on the issue since the article was written. From everything I've read, I truly believe it's only a matter of time before they are classified as employees. It would also definitely allow for enforceable rules again.
Strong Opposition Raises to Bill Denying Student Athletes Employment
Today, the House Committee of Education will meet for a markup hearing of the Protecting Student Athlete’s Economic Freedom Act (PSAEFA). Introduced by Rep. Bob
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But once legal challenges begun it’s become clear the NCAA never had any basis for making these rules in the first place. Clearly this latest response confirms that. They were always a toothless organization and we all knew it. Their power was entirely created by the NCAA. They punished the ones they could but didn’t want their authority challenged by those who could afford to do so. I don’t think most people wanted the ncaa regulating things anyway but they were never truly challenged until recently. Now it’s clear they don’t have two legs to stand on and all those years they”regulated” athletics was all bullshit.
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Can we have our wins back now that they are toothless and giving heismans back to cheaters???