Russia Invades Ukraine

[calvegas04]

I find the hard on for WW3 weird. I guess if you will fight over words like "the Ukraine" you will be all for sending my kids to get nuked in Eastern Europe. Grow up or deport please.

De-escalate and engage in a decades long economic "war". Get serious about controlling our essential defense tech supply chain domestically and becoming a net exporting energy juggernaut. Putin quiets down quick when price of oil goes to shit.

Why do you keep thinking your kids are going to die in Eastrrn Europe? They will probably be in Taiwan fighting the Chinese

 

[NorthDakota]

FIFY.

It was called that as a misnomer due to Soviet/Russian actions to belittle the people there. It's all part of the ethnocentrist propaganda pumping out of there now. Leaders of Russia calling Ukrainians a subethnic group (re, not worthy of having a state). Therefore, when you use "the" Ukraine, you are diminishing who they are, and what they have. I know plenty that are Ukrainians that will fight you tooth and nail about using that article "the."

My family's time over there predates the Soviet Union. I think they moved there in the 1700's to farm or something. They never assimilated. I don't know that any even learned the local languages. Heavy population of those people moved here.

If someone from over there wants to fight about it including "the" before Ukraine, I'll give them directions to a cemetery in the middle of nowhere even by North Dakota standards. They can complain to long dead people.

FWIW, they have nothing. They are dirt poor and grow wheat. That's honorable and all that. But this isn't some capital of culture. No one wants to go there unless they wanna see Chernobyl/Pripyat.

No one is dismished by placing "the" in front of the name of a place and it's silly pretending otherwise. You gonna get mad that I got some frozen Chicken Kiev sitting in the freezer or insist I call it Chicken Kyiv?

 

[NorthDakota]

Why do you keep thinking your kids are going to die in Eastrrn Europe? They will probably be in Taiwan fighting the Chinese

If that's the case, why are we throwing billions at a wheat field?

 

[Bishop2b5]

My family's time over there predates the Soviet Union. I think they moved there in the 1700's to farm or something. They never assimilated. I don't know that any even learned the local languages. Heavy population of those people moved here.

You may be related to my wife. Her dad's side were part of that Germans in Ukraine group who came to the Dakotas in the 1800s.

 

[calvegas04]

If that's the case, why are we throwing billions at a wheat field?

To help a country fight for it's freedom as the US received support from others when we fought for ours. Also a bonus for weakening the russian military

 

[drayer54]

If that's the case, why are we throwing billions at a wheat field?

Killing Commies is an American tradition. Grows the defense economy. Feeds the wheat. We got an open lane to destroy North Koreans, Ruskies, and Iranians all at the same time.

 

[NorthDakota]

Killing Commies is an American tradition. Grows the defense economy. Feeds the wheat. We got an open lane to destroy North Koreans, Ruskies, and Iranians all at the same time.

We aren't killing any commies. We haven't since you were either not born or in diapers (idk how old you are)

Odd I have yet to see any of these North Koreans. Iranians?

 

[NorthDakota]

You may be related to my wife. Her dad's side were part of that Germans in Ukraine group who came to the Dakotas in the 1800s.

There are many of us!

The Ukraine or Ukraine or Kiev/Kyiv could disappear tomorrow as a political entity and 99% of the world would not be impacted negatively.

We already dump a ton into defense. That's not ever gonna stop. Better to buckle up for places we care about rather than them.

 

[IrishLax]

Russia may have rigged the Romanian election.

 

[calvegas04]

Shocker, russia needs to be stopped

 

[GATTACA!]

Russia may have rigged the Romanian election.

RoMaNia cOUld DiSAPpeaR ToMorROW aS a PoLItICaL EnTiTy AND 99% OF tHe WorLd Would NOt BE iMpAcTEd negATiVElY.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Good Lord.

 

[TorontoGold]

Good Lord.

The article misrepresents the source material, and is written by Tyler Durden. Taking a glance through the rest of the website, it's pretty clear they're pro-Putin, anti-NATO, and generally pro-fascist.

See this for example - US Declares Opposition Leader Who Lives In Spain As Venezuela's President-Elect | ZeroHedge

 

[ab2cmiller]

The article misrepresents the source material, and is written by Tyler Durden. Taking a glance through the rest of the website, it's pretty clear they're pro-Putin, anti-NATO, and generally pro-fascist.

See this for example - US Declares Opposition Leader Who Lives In Spain As Venezuela's President-Elect | ZeroHedge

The NY Times article that was referenced in the write-up says

Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union. That would be an instant and enormous deterrent. But such a step would be complicated and have serious implications.

Don't know how seriously the consideration would be, but doesn't seem a wise choice.

 

[TorontoGold]

The NY Times article that was referenced in the write-up says



Don't know how seriously the consideration would be, but doesn't seem a wise choice.

Right - my issue is more with site providing half truths that lead to radical ideas being accepted.

I think you're correct that consideration would insane and I can't believe officials actually speculated that - especially with the press.

 

[drayer54]

We aren't killing any commies. We haven't since you were either not born or in diapers (idk how old you are)

Odd I have yet to see any of these North Koreans. Iranians?

North Koreans have been killed. Russians may as well still be commies. Iranians are fighting on the same team. Look, all I'm saying is we need to mow some of these pricks down and seriously degrade their ability to fight before pursuing peace, so we can have peace. If we back out now and demand peace, you are on the clock before the next round of BS.

 

[GATTACA!]

The NY Times article that was referenced in the write-up says



Don't know how seriously the consideration would be, but doesn't seem a wise choice.

At least the ones we’d be giving them would actually work. At this point how does anyone believe Russia’s aren’t fugazi?

 

[NorthDakota]

North Koreans have been killed. Russians may as well still be commies. Iranians are fighting on the same team. Look, all I'm saying is we need to mow some of these pricks down and seriously degrade their ability to fight before pursuing peace, so we can have peace. If we back out now and demand peace, you are on the clock before the next round of BS.

It just seems odd that everything is on camera except North Koreans being killed. There have been some bad photoshops of North Koreans being killed. To be fair, it's kinda tough to prove, eastern Russians are Asian looking.

Destroying an entire country's demographics (Ukraine) to degrade a hypothetical (not actual) enemy is cringe and pretty immoral honestly. Russia is a relatively poor country with 140 million people. Even if they reconstituted the entire Soviet Union, we already know how that worked out.

Iran sent them some cheap drones to see how they worked.

 

[NorthDakota]

Good Lord.

All the weapons were returned to the Soviet successor, Russia. Possession is 9/10ths of the law.

Ukraine isn't getting nukes and I think the US would legit start bombing them if they tried.

 

[TorontoGold]

It just seems odd that everything is on camera except North Koreans being killed. There have been some bad photoshops of North Koreans being killed. To be fair, it's kinda tough to prove, eastern Russians are Asian looking.

Destroying an entire country's demographics (Ukraine) to degrade a hypothetical (not actual) enemy is cringe and pretty immoral honestly. Russia is a relatively poor country with 140 million people. Even if they reconstituted the entire Soviet Union, we already know how that worked out.

Iran sent them some cheap drones to see how they worked.

I think it becomes immoral if NATO invaded Russia after defending Ukraine.

 

[NorthDakota]

At least the ones we’d be giving them would actually work. At this point how does anyone believe Russia’s aren’t fugazi?

Russia is good at a few things. Missiles and rockets are a core competency for them. So we know delivery isn't an issue. They demonstrated that this week.

Nuclear warheads been built for 80 years. Anyone who thinks Russian warheads are duds or something should ask their college for a tuition reimbursement.

 

[NorthDakota]

I think it becomes immoral if NATO invaded Russia after defending Ukraine.

The morality issue isn't about Russia really. It's about enriching Ukrainian government officials (oligarchs) at the expense of peasants.

 

[TorontoGold]

The morality issue isn't about Russia really. It's about enriching Ukrainian government officials (oligarchs) at the expense of peasants.

There's no place for holding government officials accountable during an invasion.

We accept Easy Company as hero's, we don't stop supporting them because of Speirs' possible war crimes he committed.

 

[GATTACA!]

Russia is good at a few things. Missiles and rockets are a core competency for them. So we know delivery isn't an issue. They demonstrated that this week.

Nuclear warheads been built for 80 years. Anyone who thinks Russian warheads are duds or something should ask their college for a tuition reimbursement.

They've exposed themselves as paper tigers.

 

[drayer54]

It just seems odd that everything is on camera except North Koreans being killed. There have been some bad photoshops of North Koreans being killed. To be fair, it's kinda tough to prove, eastern Russians are Asian looking.

Destroying an entire country's demographics (Ukraine) to degrade a hypothetical (not actual) enemy is cringe and pretty immoral honestly. Russia is a relatively poor country with 140 million people. Even if they reconstituted the entire Soviet Union, we already know how that worked out.

Iran sent them some cheap drones to see how they worked.

Ukraine gets to decide when Ukraine stops fighting. As long as they are in, we also have a choice. Russia's behavior in occupied Ukraine has deserved everything it has received. Killing Russian poor, prisoners, and ethnics that get sent to the meat grinder is one thing, but seeing the targeted strikes on Russian infrastructure now is a good thing. Iran deserves to get bent too over the almost 200 attacks directed at the US by proxies, and attacks on Israel, and hopefully, Trump's DOD takes back the Red Sea and melts some Houthis.

 

[PerthDomer]

It just seems odd that everything is on camera except North Koreans being killed. There have been some bad photoshops of North Koreans being killed. To be fair, it's kinda tough to prove, eastern Russians are Asian looking.

Destroying an entire country's demographics (Ukraine) to degrade a hypothetical (not actual) enemy is cringe and pretty immoral honestly. Russia is a relatively poor country with 140 million people. Even if they reconstituted the entire Soviet Union, we already know how that worked out.

Iran sent them some cheap drones to see how they worked.

Russian sources have stated integrating NK soldiers is difficult due to the language barrier so a lot have been used for rear guard stuff to free up russians to attack. There also aren't that many NK soldiers there yet compared to the Russian forces.

Reports are that one of the ATACAMs strikes injured a NK general though.

Everyone agrees though that NK's support in supplying millions of ammunition shells have been a much bigger game changer than their soldiers. The conventional artillery imbalance is really why Russia's been able to make advances.

 

[NorthDakota]

There's no place for holding government officials accountable during an invasion.

We accept Easy Company as hero's, we don't stop supporting them because of Speirs' possible war crimes he committed.

We do indeed appreciate what our ancestors did in Europe in the 40's

 

[Giddyup]

 

[GATTACA!]

The West's war against Russia. Lol

What a fucking retard.

 

[Giddyup]

War is always about money. One of your fearless leaders is already spilling the beans for people who need it written out in crayon.