‘23 CA QB Jaden Rashada (Arizona State Verbal)

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Yeah. Keep all of this, please. Sometimes being like everyone else isn't close to the right thing to do. Climb the hill your own way.

 

[Irish#1]

Jaden Rashada sues Billy Napier, Florida booster over NIL deal

The former Florida football recruit is suing coach Billy Napier, along with a big-time Gator booster and others, claiming they defrauded him by backing out of a promised $13.85 million agreement after he had turned down offers tied to other programs.

www.espn.com

 

[stpeteirish]

Remember the good old days when you could get a guy for a car and $200 bucks a month?

Napier’s going to get fired anyway (look at their schedule) but this will make it easier. What a blunder.

 

[stpeteirish]

It’s sort of fun to watch college football implode. I really do not see this ending well.

Two years later…..

 

[Blazers46]

Two years later…..

60% of the time I’m right all the time!! I mean… it hasn’t even been two years yet!!

 

[NDQuebec]

Jaden Rashada sues Billy Napier, Florida booster over NIL deal

The former Florida football recruit is suing coach Billy Napier, along with a big-time Gator booster and others, claiming they defrauded him by backing out of a promised $13.85 million agreement after he had turned down offers tied to other programs.

www.espn.com

What a boatload of money.

 

[Irishcop]

What a boatload of money.

Jaden Rashada sues Billy Napier, Florida booster over NIL deal

The former Florida football recruit is suing coach Billy Napier, along with a big-time Gator booster and others, claiming they defrauded him by backing out of a promised $13.85 million agreement after he had turned down offers tied to other programs.

www.espn.com

I’m only asking because I do not know, but can you sue someone for not for filling a promise? If no contract was signed, can he sue? Does a verbal commitment constitute a contract?

 

[BobbyMac]

Hugh Hathcock’s involved so something shady happened. Shadiest interview process I ever went through. The only time I ever ghosted a company in the middle of an employment negotiation.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I’m only asking because I do not know, but can you sue someone for not for filling a promise? If no contract was signed, can he sue? Does a verbal commitment constitute a contract?

It depends.

In this case, and assuming Rashada's version of events is true, he doesn't need to establish that there was an enforceable oral contract. And I don't think they can establish the existence of a binding contract here. For one thing, the promises made to him were that some other guy was going to do something.

However, (assuming Rashada's version is unfiltered truth) they did make representations to Rashada in order to induce him to take an action. If Rashada can convince a jury they made these promises, he reasonably relied upon their statements, and suffered damages then there might be some liability. However, I don't think he has a case to make them liable for the promised amounts. IOW, I don't think they can enforce the terms of the supposed agreement.

OTOH, I'm not a contract lawyer so somebody might have a better answer.

 

[BobbyMac]

Maybe a specific admin could make a guest appearance and answer that question.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

It depends.

In this case, and assuming Rashada's version of events is true, he doesn't need to establish that there was an enforceable oral contract. And I don't think they can establish the existence of a binding contract here. For one thing, the promises made to him were that some other guy was going to do something.

However, (assuming Rashada's version is unfiltered truth) they did make representations to Rashada in order to induce him to take an action. If Rashada can convince a jury they made these promises, he reasonably relied upon their statements, and suffered damages then there might be some liability. However, I don't think he has a case to make them liable for the promised amounts. IOW, I don't think they can enforce the terms of the supposed agreement.

OTOH, I'm not a contract lawyer so somebody might have a better answer.

This is as close as we get I think. Rashada would be suing for damages and wouldn’t be entitled to the whole amount without a contract in place. He will be lucky to get the costs of transferring covered and some punitive damages of there is evidence of intentional foul play.

Florida would be wise to settle out of court for the least amount of money possible.

 

[GowerND11]

This is why you don't promise a high schooler MILLIONS OF DOLLARS... NIL, in how it has been rolled out, is a collective (pun intended) failure. It devolved extremely quickly into what we all said it would, and were all afraid of. Pay for Play, with shady boosters, crazy contracts, and backroom deals to get kids to sign to an institute of HIGHER EDUCATION.

 

[greyhammer90]

I’m only asking because I do not know, but can you sue someone for not for filling a promise? If no contract was signed, can he sue? Does a verbal commitment constitute a contract?

Depends on a lot of factors, but google "detrimental reliance" if you're interested in a common way an unfufilled promise can be made legally enforceable. Rashada would need to establish that his reliance on this promise was to his detriment though, which might be trickier to do than you might think.

 

[GATTACA!]

This is why you don't promise a high schooler MILLIONS OF DOLLARS... NIL, in how it has been rolled out, is a collective (pun intended) failure. It devolved extremely quickly into what we all said it would, and were all afraid of. Pay for Play, with shady boosters, crazy contracts, and backroom deals to get kids to sign to an institute of HIGHER EDUCATION.

It’s their own fault for not following through on what they promised. I don’t see how this is an issue with promising a high school kid something, just don’t be scumbags afterwords.

 

[irishandy]

No high school kid is worth $13.85 million, I hope this kid falls flat on this face.

 

[TorontoGold]

No high school kid is worth $13.85 million, I hope this kid falls flat on this face.

fair market value​

noun​

: a price at which buyers and sellers with a reasonable knowledge of pertinent facts and not acting under any compulsion are willing to do business

 

[IrishLion]

Yeah, I don’t think blaming the kid based on what some dummies are willing to pay is fair.

 

[Irish#1]

I suspect there is some culpability on both sides of this.

 

[irishandy]

fair market value​

noun​

: a price at which buyers and sellers with a reasonable knowledge of pertinent facts and not acting under any compulsion are willing to do business

I highlighted the right word for you, these kids are making this sport a business.

 

[TorontoGold]

I highlighted the right word for you, these kids are making this sport a business.

The kids? The kids tricked these poor unsuspecting boosters into paying them? The kids showed up at the boosters houses demanding bags of cash? The kids are driving the realignment? The kids are negotiating new TV deals?

Boy, these kids seem to have a lot of business savvy. I should start hiring them.

Let's play this out - If I offer you $100K a year to post "Love looks really fast!" on IE, and you accept that amount. Who's turning IE posting into a business - me offering you money, or you accepting my money.

 

[irishandy]

The kids? The kids tricked these poor unsuspecting boosters into paying them? The kids showed up at the boosters houses demanding bags of cash? The kids are driving the realignment? The kids are negotiating new TV deals?

Boy, these kids seem to have a lot of business savvy. I should start hiring them.

Let's play this out - If I offer you $100K a year to post "Love looks really fast!" on IE, and you accept that amount. Who's turning IE posting into a business - me offering you money, or you accepting my money.

I have no problem with NIL- BK said it right it should be capped. Saban got out at the right time. It's going to get worse before it ever gets better.

Look at the Keon Keeley situation with his uncle and his mom making the post using his son as a highest bidder.

Your last statement is about the $$$- are you chasing money or are you chasing to play a sport you were blessed with. Of course these kids are going to take the $$$

"Love looks really fast!"

 

[GATTACA!]

I have no problem with NIL- BK said it right it should be capped. Saban got out at the right time. It's going to get worse before it ever gets better.

Look at the Keon Keeley situation with his uncle and his mom making the post using his son as a highest bidder.

Your last statement is about the $$$- are you chasing money or are you chasing to play a sport you were blessed with. Of course these kids are going to take the $$$

"Love looks really fast!"

Keon Keeley ended up at Alabama, the biggest football dynasty in recent memory. Seems like he chased both just fine.

 

[TorontoGold]

I have no problem with NIL- BK said it right it should be capped. Saban got out at the right time. It's going to get worse before it ever gets better.

Look at the Keon Keeley situation with his uncle and his mom making the post using his son as a highest bidder.

Your last statement is about the $$$- are you chasing money or are you chasing to play a sport you were blessed with. Of course these kids are going to take the $$$

"Love looks really fast!"

Why should it be capped? Would you tell schools they should be capped on TV deals? What about stadium tickets? Should there be an enforced cap on ticket prices? I think those would have a more tangible impact on "saving the game", right?

Keon Keeley went to a program with an incredible history of developing NFL players as well. Why is it a bad thing that he got money for his talents? Wouldn't you think going to a dynasty with the GOAT coach and getting some nice coin as an attractive option? Should Keeley have gone to the local school in Tampa USF because it would be better for the game?

Does anyone else in CFB do it for severely under market value? Should coaches get paid the same as profs? Surely you'd advocate for that right, these coaches should be doing it for the fun of it and not be so greedy ruining the game.

 

[GowerND11]

I’m not blaming the kid. I’m blaming the people doing all this NIL stuff because it immediately devolved into pay for play, $13 million for a 17 year old, etc.

Rashada isn’t the issue, none of the kids are. It’s the buying of them like predicted. The greater downfall of the sport.

 

[ColinKSU]

The craziest part of all of this is Rashada isn’t even that good.

 

[NorthDakota]

Why should it be capped? Would you tell schools they should be capped on TV deals? What about stadium tickets? Should there be an enforced cap on ticket prices? I think those would have a more tangible impact on "saving the game", right?

Keon Keeley went to a program with an incredible history of developing NFL players as well. Why is it a bad thing that he got money for his talents? Wouldn't you think going to a dynasty with the GOAT coach and getting some nice coin as an attractive option? Should Keeley have gone to the local school in Tampa USF because it would be better for the game?

Does anyone else in CFB do it for severely under market value? Should coaches get paid the same as profs? Surely you'd advocate for that right, these coaches should be doing it for the fun of it and not be so greedy ruining the game.

I don't see a need to cap. But some sort of structure would be nice. I think there is a decent chance it works itself out over time. Contract lawyers are creative.

 

[Irish#1]

People complain because CEO's and EVP's make millions, but it's the same premise.

Is the kid worth $13M? No way. Does he deserve it? Absolutely if he can get it.

 

[NDohio]

People complain because CEO's and EVP's make millions, but it's the same premise.

Is the kid worth $13M? No way. Does he deserve it? Absolutely if he can get it.

Jim Delaney, who retired as the Big Ten Commissioner in 2020, was paid over $5 million in 2023 by the Big Ten...It ain't the players at fault here...

 

[Irish#1]

Jim Delaney, who retired as the Big Ten Commissioner in 2020, was paid over $5 million in 2023 by the Big Ten...It ain't the players at fault here...

It's not. Let them get what they can. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of people complaining about salaries in business.

 

[GoldenAura]