Gerad Parker - Troy Head Coach :)

[dublinirish]

Tressel Ball

tbf MF has always said this is how he wants to play football so we can't be expecting Sean Lewis or anyone like that to ever rock up at ND i don't think.

 

[PutuporShutup]

II podcast theorized that Parker is running the offense MF wants to see run rather than the one Parker himself wants to run. Basically MF's inert conservatism is overriding everything on that side of the ball

possible with his comment on being spooked by the pick 6. Every big game we've had this insanely conservative offense. IT works when our Defense gets a bunch of turnovers and scores points like Clemson last year or USC this year. It doesn't work once you fall behind

 

[SoIll]

II podcast theorized that Parker is running the offense MF wants to see run rather than the one Parker himself wants to run. Basically MF's inert conservatism is overriding everything on that side of the ball

Freeman is fucked.

 

[NDWarrior]

Maybe new AD gives him no choice but to adapt.... or otherwise, to please find his way out the door?

 

[Irish Knuckles]

possible with his comment on being spooked by the pick 6. Every big game we've had this insanely conservative offense. IT works when our Defense gets a bunch of turnovers and scores points like Clemson last year or USC this year. It doesn't work once you fall behind

agree we aren't built to come from behind, but i'm still baffled why we abandoned the run in the second half. had plenty of time. estime was lighting it up. really disappointed by that. it's like freeman was just hoping to get lucky.

 

[PutuporShutup]

agree we aren't built to come from behind, but i'm still baffled why we abandoned the run in the second half. had plenty of time. estime was lighting it up. really disappointed by that. it's like freeman was just hoping to get lucky.

It was run on first down, get minimal yards, then go to obvious pass since we were behind. The issue is we did well when throwing on first down but didn't do it much until under 3 minutes.

 

[SoIll]

II podcast theorized that Parker is running the offense MF wants to see run rather than the one Parker himself wants to run. Basically MF's inert conservatism is overriding everything on that side of the ball

We're blaming the wrong guy here...

 

[Irish Knuckles]

It was run on first down, get minimal yards, then go to obvious pass since we were behind. The issue is we did well when throwing on first down but didn't do it much until under 3 minutes.

estime getting 3 carries in the second half is a big fail.

 

[dublinirish]

Maybe new AD gives him no choice but to adapt.... or otherwise, to please find his way out the door?

i doubt an AD has that much say like that.

 

[PutuporShutup]

estime getting 3 carries in the second half is a big fail.

Absolutely, he wasn't even in a ton. They had love in a lot. I think they were hoping to hit a monster gain since we were backed up each time with love on a run or wheel route, just never looked his way on the wheel route.

Again, why 2 of love estime price aren't in together most of the time is besides me. 3 of our top offensive players, and only 1 is ever on the field.

 

[MacIrish75]

i doubt an AD has that much say like that.

Lol sure he does. You’re employed at the pleasure of the AD/school as a coach. If the boss says “change” and you refuse…pack your shit.

 

[dublinirish]

Lol sure he does. You’re employed at the pleasure of the AD/school as a coach. If the boss says “change” and you refuse…pack your shit.

i would imagine a AD just cares about results. I doubt they care much what the playcalling/team style is like

 

[BeatSC]

If we don’t hear about this today or tomorrow are we waiting for the off-season or pre bowl game at least?

If our O lays another egg next week does he get canned before Stanford? Freeman will be criticized for not dumping porker but he won’t be if he canned him right now. If he keeps this hack then he deserves to go down with the ship.

 

[PutuporShutup]

If we don’t hear about this today or tomorrow are we waiting for the off-season or pre bowl game at least?

If our O lays another egg next week does he get canned before Stanford? Freeman will be criticized for not dumping porker but he won’t be if he canned him right now. If he keeps this hack then he deserves to go down with the ship.

Wake's D isn't as good as Pitts. The last two offenses with a pulse to play wake were vtech and fsu. They both had around 500 yards total offense and both scored over 30. If ND plays bad/average both sides of the ball this week we probably win 30-20. Should be more like 40-13

 

[LSWho?]

II podcast theorized that Parker is running the offense MF wants to see run rather than the one Parker himself wants to run. Basically MF's inert conservatism is overriding everything on that side of the ball

I just don't believe it. MF is ultimately responsible for win/losses, but this was the same excuse given when Parker was canned as WV's OC. The simple answer is most correct: Parker is not a good OC.

The "deeper issues" IB speculates about are pretty evident actually. Our play designs are bad. There are no constraint plays built into the offense. We tip plays based on personnel and formation constantly.

Even if MF is telling Parker "I want a ball control offense," this isn't achieving that either. To control the ball, you actually have to get first downs.

 

[Giddyup]

Paul Chryst time baby!!’ Let’s do this!

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

II podcast theorized that Parker is running the offense MF wants to see run rather than the one Parker himself wants to run. Basically MF's inert conservatism is overriding everything on that side of the ball

This is my fear. We'll see if it holds true in his offseason hiring process.

 

[LSWho?]

Tressel Ball

tbf MF has always said this is how he wants to play football so we can't be expecting Sean Lewis or anyone like that to ever rock up at ND i don't think.

Where are people getting this erroneous notion? Troy Smith won the Heisman in 2006 flipping the ball around in a pass-first spread. They put 42 up on Michigan that year when Michigan had a great defense. Marcus Freeman was on that team.

Tressel Ball was a thing in the early 2000s when OSU had Craig Krenzel at QB. There is no way that MF is aspiring to that on offense.

If MF wants ball control, that is fine, plenty of good offenses want to accumulate first downs and run the ball. But you need competent offensive design and complementary play-calling. We don't have a problem with offensive philosophy, we have a problem with competence.

 

[CanadalovesND]

It would be irresponsible for a second-year head coach, who specializes in defense, to have that much say and control in an offense. He should be able to make adjustments in approach if he ultimately sees the need for it, but he shouldn't be hindering his OC. Kelly may have done that with Rees but Kelly was an "offensive" guy with experience to back it up.

I call BS on that theory. If it isn't, then its a learning experience for Freeman.

 

[pumpdog20]

I don't even think Gino should be kept around to be QB coach, let alone be promoted to OC.
He seems to be the one that should be getting most of the blame, even more than, dare I say, Parker...

 

[Free Manera]

Nick Saban went away from ball control, run the damn ball offense because it no longer works in modern football. So Freeman better either 1. be a better coach than the greatest coach of all time or 2. change his philosophy.

If he doesn't:

 

[Kingbish01]

II podcast theorized that Parker is running the offense MF wants to see run rather than the one Parker himself wants to run. Basically MF's inert conservatism is overriding everything on that side of the ball

Not sure I buy it.

Where are people getting this erroneous notion? Troy Smith won the Heisman in 2006 flipping the ball around in a pass-first spread. They put 42 up on Michigan that year when Michigan had a great defense. Marcus Freeman was on that team.

Tressel Ball was a thing in the early 2000s when OSU had Craig Krenzel at QB. There is no way that MF is aspiring to that on offense.

If MF wants ball control, that is fine, plenty of good offenses want to accumulate first downs and run the ball. But you need competent offensive design and complementary play-calling. We don't have a problem with offensive philosophy, we have a problem with competence.

Troy Smith threw for 2500 yards that year. Hardly flipping it around, looking back he only threw for over 300 yards once after week 1 against Northern Illinois. Quinn threw for 1,000 more yards than him....Colt Brennan threw for 3000 more yards.

Looking back at the last few Heisman winners that played QB 20 years later.....Smith with those numbers wouldn't be in the top 20.

Caleb 4500 yards
Bryce 4800 yards (Even Kenny Pickett and CJ Stroud had 4500)

 

[Kingbish01]

P.S. Sam Hartman will 10000% end the season with more yards than Heisman winner Troy Smith

 

[Giddyup]

There’s more to qb position than yards which you’ve left out

 

[Kingbish01]

There’s more to qb position than yards which you’ve left out

I left it out, because I was responding to the "flipping it all over the place in a pass first offense" to the tune of 2,500 yards. He ran for 204 yards and completed 65% those numbers don't win you the Heisman in 2023

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

There’s more to qb position than yards which you’ve left out

He completed 65% of his passes and had 8.2 yards per attempt. That's closer to Drew Pyne (8.0 last year) than Sam Hartman (8.8 this year).

Offenses are just very different now.

Anyway, I'm not sure I buy the idea that Freeman is the limiting factor here.

 

[Irish4life]

Why is Gerad Parker still employed as the OC at Notre Dame?

 

[Kingbish01]

Why is Gerad Parker still employed as the OC at Notre Dame?

Word is because he's doing what his boss says....Can't fire a guy that's following orders.

 

[ulukinatme]

 

[Giddyup]

Damn Troy Smith 30 td passes to 6 int that heisman year.