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The guys on IB are saying that play calling is not great but the issues are much deeper.
 

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I wouldn’t expect to see a significant difference if someone else does call the plays. Too late to be implementing a new offense, so changes would be more like passing on first down or running a little hurry up.
 

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I mean...I'd be pretty cool with mending fences with Weis Jr if he wants to come in as OC. Hell, I'd take Weis Sr at this point, just make sure someone else is recruiting OL.

Why? This isn't a sleepaway camp. We don't need to mend fences with the sons of failed head coaches. What has Charlie Weis Jr. ever done on his own?
 

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I wouldn’t expect to see a significant difference if someone else does call the plays. Too late to be implementing a new offense, so changes would be more like passing on first down or running a little hurry up.
You are 100% correct as it pertains to this season. Moving on from Parker is about getting the search for the new OC kicked off ASAP.
 

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We're going to demote Parker just to:

* Temporarily elevate Gino
* Start the infamous ND "national" OC search
* Land on 2-3 desirable finalists
* Whiff on all 3
* Be told for 3rd straight OC search that the right guy was "right down the hall" and permanently elevate Gino

Aren't we?

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What has Charlie Weis Jr. ever done on his own?

Well, Ole Miss is the 12th best offense in FBS this year and has faced some pretty good SEC defenses? Weis Jr has been pretty good actually at about all his stops which is why Kiffin keeps bringing him around.
 

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I wouldn’t expect to see a significant difference if someone else does call the plays. Too late to be implementing a new offense, so changes would be more like passing on first down or running a little hurry up.

That could make the difference though.
 

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We're going to demote Parker just to:

* Temporarily elevate Gino
* Start the infamous ND "national" OC search
* Land on 2-3 desirable finalists
* Whiff on all 3
* Be told for 3rd straight OC search that the right guy was "right down the hall" and permanently elevate Gino

Aren't we?

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We're going to demote Parker just to:

* Temporarily elevate Gino
* Start the infamous ND "national" OC search
* Land on 2-3 desirable finalists
* Whiff on all 3
* Be told for 3rd straight OC search that the right guy was "right down the hall" and permanently elevate Gino

Aren't we?

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Hey, you know what they say. Third times the charm...
 

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After 10 games of evidence, I’m fairly confident that Gino is a better OC than Parker.

I’m also 100% confident that Gino can’t be the guy next year if you’re trying to build an offense that can score enough to win a [12-team] playoff game.

Gino might become a great OC some day. He might even be a good one right now… but ND needs more than that, and they need more than that ASAP.

Give Gino a shot to at least call the pass plays for the last two games, and let some office folks start putting OC profiles and resumes on MFMF’s desk for the next 6 weeks.
 

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Did they expand on the “deeper issues?”
It doesn't matter who calls the plays. It'll be the same result.

Execution is really bad. Is anybody scared in the slightest of losing their spot? Is anybody playing as if this play and my performance are important?

O line is etting worse as the season goes on. Poor technique. Guards and center are just really bad. Being overpowered consistently. Two players not doing their assignment on almost every play.

This receiver group is being asked to win one on one matchups instead of being schemed open.

Hartman doesn't trust the receivers.


Game planning is worse than play calling.

Offense has no sense of urgency. Even in 2 minute situations.

The entire offense needs changed. What is it? Its a slow, plodding Iowa offense. Running Estime on first and second and trying to hit a tight end on third?

No play action.

No tempo.

Why can Kansas State have an exciting, dynamic, effective offense but ND is stuck in neutral?
 
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It doesn't matter who calls the plays. It'll be the same result.

Execution is really bad. Is anybody scared in the slightest of losing their spot? Is anybody playing as if this play and my performance are important?

O line is etting worse as the season goes on. Poor technique. Guards and center are just really bad. Being overpowered consistently. Two players not doing their assignment on almost every play.

This receiver group is being asked to win one on one matchups instead of being schemed open.

Hartman doesn't trust the receivers.


Game planning is worse than play calling.

Offense has no sense of urgency. Even in 2 minute situations.

The entire offense needs changed. What is it? Its a slow, plodding Iowa offense. Running Estime on first and second and trying to hit a tight end on third?

No play action.

No tempo.

Why can Kansas State have an exciting, dynamic, effective offense but ND is stuck in neutral?
All reasonable points. I also sont understand why every team in the country can pick up 6-8 yds on a bubble screen, but even going back to BK I couldnt tell you the last time we ran one with success.
Why no slants, and even moreso why no double moves to try and make somebody pay for being over aggressive or jumping our routes like they do.
Why do we never spread anyone out then run. Why do we nevwr run quick pitches to the outside. Every time we try to run wife its a slow developing handoff with 5 players pulling and a TE missing the down block.
Why no playaction on 1st down considering we run on 1st down 90% of the time.
Even when we do send guys in motion it is slow plodding jogs just to get somebody to the other side of the formation, it is never to create mismatches or cause confusion.
The offense is fundamentally broken.
 

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Agree here that we should have an interim 2 remaining games strategy here:
- Let Gino (maybe in coordination with Randolph?) call the plays; you tell them you're welcome to apply for OC role but ND is going all out and competition is going to tough
- We still have to win these last two games but as some suggested, let Angeli have a lot of game reps so that they can see now in live games what they have in him (and before ND potentially brings in a GT and Angeli decided to transfer)
- Take the opportunity to try some new looks and players so that we can get players excited again (and will hopefully help to retain them and not lose to TP); this also may do some good to show potential OCs that ND has talent and speed here to work with, but just needs that next great OC to come in and put things together - We want them to have faith that there is something here to serve as a good foundation for a great O
- Start vetting and building an OC target list and getting to work
- Not sure about Parker but since he is MF's bud maybe he's ok with going back to TE coach and this would be a test run if it would work for both ND (not be toxic) and Parker (that he could do it without feeling like a failure); there would still be an end of year, post-season opportunity to work out a mutually-agreeable package out the door
 

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I mean, he's older health wise than Saban I'm sure. But I just dont forsee Sr being an issue. Lot's of time has past, he loves ND, and he doesn't have the energy to be an issue IMO
What would he even hold ill will for? He sucked and we fired him. ND didn't do him dirty. In fact they paid him very handsomely to not coach for us.
 

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What would he even hold ill will for? He sucked and we fired him. ND didn't do him dirty. In fact they paid him very handsomely to not coach for us.
I don't think it would be ill will if any towards the professional you're fired action, but more about how fans and others were apparently nasty to Sr. and maybe the family near the end of his tenure, but I honestly don't know much about it, just remember hearing about it (maybe some if it here). Since it's his family who knows how he feels about this? The reality is that he may be content to keep himself hitched to Kiffin, feeling loyal to him. Again, he does appear to have a good head on his shoulders and would certainly understand the business part of coaching and what can happen if you're not successful.
 

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What’s interesting is our offense has been pretty good during the hurry up this year at least the first 5 weeks it was
 

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I don't think it would be ill will if any towards the professional you're fired action, but more about how fans and others were apparently nasty to Sr. and maybe the family near the end of his tenure, but I honestly don't know much about it, just remember hearing about it (maybe some if it here). Since it's his family who knows how he feels about this? The reality is that he may be content to keep himself hitched to Kiffin, feeling loyal to him. Again, he does appear to have a good head on his shoulders and would certainly understand the business part of coaching and what can happen if you're not successful.
I mean, sure, some of us rolled our eyes a little at Charlie Jr. being on the sidelines when he was an "aspiring coach" in middle school. But his dad's the one who put him there, and his dad's relationship with Notre Dame is/was complicated.
Either way, Charlie Jr. is now an actual coach, OCing a top 10 team that scores points by the boatload. No idea if he'd be interested in leaving Kiffin's side but I don't see why we wouldn't at least kick the tires.
 

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All this back and forth about Charlie Jr. is fine.

But, it's meaningless unless we pull the plug on Parker and don't promote someone else from within.

I'm not going to hold my breath.
 

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The guys on IB are saying that play calling is not great but the issues are much deeper.
OMG whatever about these IB Idiots. These are the same fools that didn't see a game that ND would lose this year. They literally said that. Perhaps a 1 loss season..... The same guys who said Rees would unleash the offense now that Kelly is gone. That Freeman will improve on Kelly's record. That Parker is made of what is needed at OC.... the list is so long.

Basically take what they say and think the opposite and you will have the right and accurate view of the Program. Einsteins now realize the issues are much deeper. Too funny. I bet those Gap Closer T-shirts are flying off the shelves.
 

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OMG whatever about these IB Idiots. These are the same fools that didn't see a game that ND would lose this year. They literally said that. Perhaps a 1 loss season..... The same guys who said Rees would unleash the offense now that Kelly is gone. That Freeman will improve on Kelly's record. That Parker is made of what is needed at OC.... the list is so long.

Basically take what they say and think the opposite and you will have the right and accurate view of the Program. Einsteins now realize the issues are much deeper. Too funny. I bet those Gap Closer T-shirts are flying off the shelves.
Ib sources are all player parents so they have to be biased about the team. They refuse to acknowledge the Merriweather is a bust.
 

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OMG whatever about these IB Idiots. These are the same fools that didn't see a game that ND would lose this year. They literally said that. Perhaps a 1 loss season..... The same guys who said Rees would unleash the offense now that Kelly is gone. That Freeman will improve on Kelly's record. That Parker is made of what is needed at OC.... the list is so long.

Basically take what they say and think the opposite and you will have the right and accurate view of the Program. Einsteins now realize the issues are much deeper. Too funny. I bet those Gap Closer T-shirts are flying off the shelves.

I don't like IB either, but this team is most likely undefeated if not for an incompetent OC. The fact that in hindsight ND "should have" swept the big three on their schedule is unthinkable, yet here we are.
 

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Maybe he could be our next OC coach if he can get the Irish Offense to score as many points as his Defense gives game-after-game LOL.
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