Skunkbear Signal Stealing Scandal

[zelezo vlk]

Man when it rains, it pours. Apparently this guy has cerebral palsy - what a fucked up / sad story.

Article from 2020 mentioning him:
2009 Alumnus Talks Sports

"Alex Yood is a sophomore at the University of Michigan and talked with Nolan about realizing his dream of being a football coach. “We talked about how Miami Dolphins coach Brian Flores helped him while he was in high school, how is helping at the University of Michigan, and being able to do all of this with cerebral palsy.”

Man everything about this story sucks

 

[sfk324]

Man everything about this story sucks

Bo would have been fine with it, though.

 

[CousinEddy]

First time poster but long time reader to this wonderful bunch of lady’s and dudes.

To all you lawyers out there is there any potential of a civil suit against the school and or NCAA for loss if one were to have placed bets against meatchickens spread with some claiming this scandal could have proven to help with as much as 3 scores therefore making any potential of fairness void causing basically a forfeiture of funds? Or would that be moot because there is no quantifiable difference in game outcome? Forgive my lack of knowledge in these matters just would love to hear that’s a possibility and all hell break loose up north.

 

[Lberry]

Nailed it

[Neither can name a single bad take they want to defend]. The door couldn't be more open!

 

[zelezo vlk]

Big Ten coaches frustrated with league's handling of Michigan: Sources

Sources said Big Ten football coaches voiced their frustrations in a Wednesday video call with commissioner Tony Petitti.

theathletic.com

“Everybody’s upset,” that coach told The Athletic. “Why is nothing being done? We want to know, what else do you need to know to take action? We (the Big Ten head coaches) want something done now. I don’t think people understand the advantage that what they’re (allegedly) doing gives you. People think, ‘OK, now that everybody knows, we all can just move on.’ Like, ‘now, it’s fair.’ Well, no, it isn’t. Not at all. This changes the way you operate. A lot of teams have been doing things a certain way for years. Now, it’s forcing you to teach your players a whole new way to communicate just for them. People think that this is just advanced scouting. This was damn near espionage.”

A third Big Ten head coach told The Athletic that this is “one of the most egregious breaches in the spirit of the game” he’s ever heard of.

“They (Michigan) have been manipulating the game and cheating the game for two-and-a-half years. To know exactly what the other team is doing, Michigan might as well have been playing with 15 guys on the field,” he said. “What’s the message the Big Ten is sending now by doing nothing? Win now, pay later? We might as well just send people to (scout) their practices and their games. It doesn’t encourage anybody to follow the rules. It’s just telling them to do the opposite and say, f— it.”

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I'd be curious to see if the B1G or the NCAA does anything immediately this year. Until you have all of your evidence and ducks in a row, you are still building a case, so my guess is, unfortunately, they're going to let scUM's season play out here.

They'll probably act after the season and retroactively vacate wins/trophies/awards accordingly. Just my gut, I have no proof of any of this, just NCAA track record.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I'd be curious to see if the B1G or the NCAA does anything immediately this year. Until you have all of your evidence and ducks in a row, you are still building a case, so my guess is, unfortunately, they're going to let scUM's season play out here.

They'll probably act after the season and retroactively vacate wins/trophies/awards accordingly. Just my gut, I have no proof of any of this, just NCAA track record.

NCAA rules basically forbid them from doing anything without following a drawn out process. The B1G* has the power to act immediately which is why they are the focus right now.

*It's the commissioner's power (subject to review by the school presidents, IIRC) but he won't act unless he knows the membership is overwhelmingly behind him. According to reports the membership is communicating that fact as we speak.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

 

[Free Manera]

First time poster but long time reader to this wonderful bunch of lady’s and dudes.

To all you lawyers out there is there any potential of a civil suit against the school and or NCAA for loss if one were to have placed bets against meatchickens spread with some claiming this scandal could have proven to help with as much as 3 scores therefore making any potential of fairness void causing basically a forfeiture of funds? Or would that be moot because there is no quantifiable difference in game outcome? Forgive my lack of knowledge in these matters just would love to hear that’s a possibility and all hell break loose up north.

I'm a lawyer but might as well not be when it comes to questions like these lol. But my best guess is no. Michigan didn't owe any duty to bettors or sportbooks, so they can't be liable to them for anything.

 

[Lberry]

The Big 10 coaches outrage is high frequency stuff. Love that they're not half assing it, it was an incredible advantage which is why Michigan went to incredible lengths (and risk) to do it. Classic high risk, high reward.

 

[thekid33]

Think we can get Elston back or is anyone associated with Michigan too tainted?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Think we can get Elston back or is anyone associated with Michigan too tainted?

Who wants him back? I don't.

 

[NDohio]

Think we can get Elston back or is anyone associated with Michigan too tainted?

I am perfectly fine with the current D-Line coach...

 

[CousinEddy]

I'm a lawyer but might as well not be when it comes to questions like these lol. But my best guess is no. Michigan didn't owe any duty to bettors or sportbooks, so they can't be liable to them for anything.

Thanks, but hate to hear it. Was hoping for maximum damage

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I was just coming to post Brendan's Tweet. Fuck Michigan. That lopsided loss makes more sense now.

Michigan went 9-4 that year. Were absolutely waxed by Wisconsin, Ohio State and Alabama. Lost at Penn State 28-21, which is quite an accomplishment since James Franklin was Penn State's coach at the time.

This was all perhaps in its infancy because they didn't start turning it really around until 2021.

That was definitely one of the more lopsided losses under Kelly for sure, though.

 

[sfk324]

First time poster but long time reader to this wonderful bunch of lady’s and dudes.

To all you lawyers out there is there any potential of a civil suit against the school and or NCAA for loss if one were to have placed bets against meatchickens spread with some claiming this scandal could have proven to help with as much as 3 scores therefore making any potential of fairness void causing basically a forfeiture of funds? Or would that be moot because there is no quantifiable difference in game outcome? Forgive my lack of knowledge in these matters just would love to hear that’s a possibility and all hell break loose up north.

No. People tried this with the Astros and Red Sox sign stealing and the suit was dismissed.

 

[thekid33]

Lost at Penn State 28-21, which is quite an accomplishment since James Franklin was Penn State's coach at the time.

 

[ThePiombino]

Think we can get Elston back or is anyone associated with Michigan too tainted?

As an analyst? Sure.

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[Irish#1]

Where is Harbaugh's moral Catholic highground in all of this?? Some on this board were lauding him for being open about his religious beliefs. Or is lying and cheating no longer a sin?

I'll hang up and listen. 😆

Confession, an act of contrition and he's good to go.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

First time poster but long time reader to this wonderful bunch of lady’s and dudes.

To all you lawyers out there is there any potential of a civil suit against the school and or NCAA for loss if one were to have placed bets against meatchickens spread with some claiming this scandal could have proven to help with as much as 3 scores therefore making any potential of fairness void causing basically a forfeiture of funds? Or would that be moot because there is no quantifiable difference in game outcome? Forgive my lack of knowledge in these matters just would love to hear that’s a possibility and all hell break loose up north.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Man when it rains, it pours. Apparently this guy has cerebral palsy - what a fucked up / sad story.

Article from 2020 mentioning him:
2009 Alumnus Talks Sports

"Alex Yood is a sophomore at the University of Michigan and talked with Nolan about realizing his dream of being a football coach. “We talked about how Miami Dolphins coach Brian Flores helped him while he was in high school, how is helping at the University of Michigan, and being able to do all of this with cerebral palsy.”

Everything about that story sucks and makes me feel awful.

 

[tko]

 

[thekid33]

As an analyst? Sure.

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Yeah, not like fire anyone we currently have. But, I'd have him back in a capacity like that.

 

[tecateparty]

Confession, an act of contrition and he's good to go.

as far as we know he's already confessed the entire thing and some priest in Ann Arbor could just blow this whole thing open right now

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Where is Harbaugh's moral Catholic highground in all of this?? Some on this board were lauding him for being open about his religious beliefs. Or is lying and cheating no longer a sin?

I'll hang up and listen. 😆

On par with most Catholics I grew up around on the NW Side of Chicago. And that's just the adults, For whatever that's worth.

The scene on their Amazon All or Nothing series where he meets Pope Francis in Rome is one of the most awkward in the history of reality shows. Listening to Harbaugh try to speak Spanish or Italian or whatever the hell he thought he was doing was really quite indicative of what a complete meathead he really is.

 

[KPENN]

 

[Blazers46]

What did I miss about Connor Stalions not being available during the 2020 season?

 

[zelezo vlk]

What did I miss about Connor Stalions not being available during the 2020 season?

No fans in the stands would make it significantly harder for him to hire people to record the opposing sideline

 

[INLaw]

Thanks, but hate to hear it. Was hoping for maximum damage

There was a class action that got started from a Pacquio/Maywether (sic) fight bc one didn’t disclose an injury as required by wbc or some other institution. So the theory is there ish but I assume nothing significant came of it bc I never heard a follow up

 

[sfk324]

I really think treating 2019 and 2021-2023 as similar is obfuscating the issue and playing into Michigan's hands. Sign stealing from the sidelines on gameday is not illegal, and there is nothing that has come out that suggests he was doing this stuff in person and with video prior to 2021. He's on the sidelines, but he wasn't even a paid staffer at that point. All evidence to this point suggests that 2021, when Harbaugh's seat was on fire, is when stuff goes to 11, and what do you know, they finally find ways to beat OSU and PSU consistently. Adding pre-2020 into the mix only makes it seem like what they were doing wasn't a big deal, and that the on-field results are a product of something other than the spy campaign.