Skunkbear Signal Stealing Scandal

[Irish#1]

The B1G is already collecting evidence and waiting for more before meeting. This will require a meeting of representatives from all the schools as the punishment will require their approval if they want to go above a two game punishment which is the limit of the commissioners authority. I would imagine he will recommend something more severe that should be approved.

Imagine how uncomfortable the rep from Michigan is going to feel sitting in that meeting. Lol

 

[BoredIrish]

Whatever the penalty, it has to be enforced this year. The NCAA would look like the bufoons that they are if Michigan is playing in the playoffs while under investigation for cheating.

 

[greyhammer90]

Whatever the penalty, it has to be enforced this year. The NCAA would look like the bufoons that they are if Michigan is playing in the playoffs while under investigation for cheating.

What in the last 20 years would lead you to believe that the NCAA is worried about looking like bufoons?

 

[INLaw]

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[NDpendent]

The NCAA has to be in a really tough spot here. It takes longer then 2 months to fully investigate something like this and take action, however there is enough evidence already out there that we already know that it is likely they will have to vacate at least two seasons. With what is already out there you cannot let Michigan in the playoffs with this high of a likelihood you will have to vacate those game. Imagine what would happen if they actually won, just not fair to the other four teams

 

[INLaw]

 

[INLaw]

It has to be the B1G to stop this in time to matter. Need the other 13 schools to say nope.

 

[Luckylucci]

What in the last 20 years would lead you to believe that the NCAA is worried about looking like bufoons?

I get it, I really do. But this feels completely different. The act of actually competing on the field is a zero sum game. Every team that has played Michigan and lost, will be livid fucking pissed about this. I would think that matters.

 

[ab2cmiller]

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My brain hurts after trying to follow that.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

I get it, I really do. But this feels completely different. The act of actually competing on the field is a zero sum game. Every team that has played Michigan and lost, will be livid fucking pissed about this. I would think that matters.

Gamblers may be a bit angry also. This is bad.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Gamblers may be a bit angry also. This is bad.

Bad?

I think you mean totally fucking awesome.

Fuck over Vegas and now the NCAA doesn't need subpoena powers and Michigan knows it.

 

[Luckylucci]

Gamblers may be a bit angry also. This is bad.

I was just at Top Golf with some buddies, one a big sports gambler, and this is what he said. He believes Vegas and what LSWho? Posted is most damning and consequential. A lot of power and money will be pissed off here.

 

[LSWho?]

Check the date.

Edit: If there is a way to paste the image more accessibly, feel free to fix or update.

 

[INLaw]

I mean they did it. And they are waving their middlefingers. What is B1G gonna do about it?

 

[Luckylucci]

Check the date.

Edit: If there is a way to paste the image more accessibly, feel free to fix or update.

This must be the original post on it. It was re-posted at Bucknuts this evening.

 

[Wild Bill]

This must be the original post on it. It was re-posted at Bucknuts this evening.

Gimme more lucky.

 

[LSWho?]

This must be the original post on it. It was re-posted at Bucknuts this evening.

''Says he and the others are never allowed to talk to Harbaugh directly about it.''

 

[greyhammer90]

They're going to try and hide behind the "Harbaugh can't be spoken to" thing, and it might save Harbaugh's bacon as an individual, but it's still a competitive advantage and should still result in penalties for Michigan.

 

[Ndaccountant]

They're going to try and hide behind the "Harbaugh can't be spoken to" thing, and it might save Harbaugh's bacon as an individual, but it's still a competitive advantage and should still result in penalties for Michigan.

With the way the rules are written any malfeasance within the program is Harbaugh's problem. No longer can a coach claim ignorance.

 

[TheProspector]

And another one. Vast network may actually be accurate reporting.

 

[LSWho?]

I was just at Top Golf with some buddies, one a big sports gambler, and this is what he said. He believes Vegas and what LSWho? Posted is most damning and consequential. A lot of power and money will be pissed off here.

Fox Sports guy claiming he has been told one odds-maker will take UM games off the board soon.

 

[BoredIrish]

With the way the rules are written any malfeasance within the program is Harbaugh's problem. No longer can a coach claim ignorance.

It's hard to claim ignorance when the guilty party is standing on your sideline during the game and speaking directly with your coordinators.

 

[dublinirish]

oh no won't somebody please think of the poor Vegas oddsmakers

 

[LSWho?]

oh no won't somebody please think of the poor Vegas oddsmakers

I don't think you understand the point of that point.

 

[notredomer23]

I can’t be the only one who went into this thinking nothing was going to come of it, only for every single day to be shocked by what has come out right? I mean F Michigan and all that but the amount of people on the internet catching these cheaters red handed is wild to me.

 

[IrishLax]

With the way the rules are written any malfeasance within the program is Harbaugh's problem. No longer can a coach claim ignorance.

Correct, Lack of Institutional Control and Failure to Monitor.

 

[LSWho?]

I can’t be the only one who went into this thinking nothing was going to come of it, only for every single day to be shocked by what has come out right? I mean F Michigan and all that but the amount of people on the internet catching these cheaters red handed is wild to me.

I went from having no understanding of how to judge this situation (check my early posts) to being hoovered up into the attention vortex of every update (as evidenced by my repeated updates tonight). I need to cut back for sanity and productivity, but I think this story is now clearly a big deal, arguably even more than some (but not all) of the recruiting shenanigans of the pre-NIL Era. With recruiting, at least you preserved the integrity of seasonal matchups and the internal competitiveness of games. If ever there was a case where vacating wins makes sense, it is here. You actually cannot trust what your eyes saw now.

Vacate the last 2+ seasons of wins and hit Harbaugh with a significant show-cause order. I think that's the minimum of what you're looking at for penalties.

 

[T-Boone]

If reports are true that schools are pissed with UM inside the Big10, what’s stopping them from saying bye to UM? Vote them out. It will never happen…. but I like saying it.

They could be independent

 

[Crazy Balki]

They're going to try and hide behind the "Harbaugh can't be spoken to" thing, and it might save Harbaugh's bacon as an individual, but it's still a competitive advantage and should still result in penalties for Michigan.

Nope.

Head coach can't hide behind the "didn't know" excuse. You are at the head of the operation, you are SUPPOSED to know.

If your coordinators are cheating behind your back, that makes you just as culpable. YOU hired them. YOU failed to supervise your subordinates and keep them in line. YOU failed to report it.

Bear in mind, I don't buy for a split second that Harbaugh didn't know about this. There's no way that's true.

 

[RipWheeler]

''Says he and the others are never allowed to talk to Harbaugh directly about it.''

Key word there “directly” which means it still finds its way to him.