Conspiracy Theories

[IRISHDODGER]

One of the great conspiracies of all time that has a special place in my heart due to my love of heavy metal and having lived through it is the Satanic Panic of the 70’s and 80’s.

Same. My favorites were KISS (Knights in Satan’s Service) & W.A.S.P. (We Are Satan’s People). Then you had the Judas Priest trial where teenage suicide was blamed on playing their record backwards. This was before Reddit mind you…LOL!

Even the hair metal bands got a taste of it when Motley Crue was being castigated for their album & song of the same title “Shout at the Devil”. I think it was Vince Neil who responded, “Dude, it’s “Shout AT the Devil” not “Shout WITH the Devil”.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

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Did increase of smallpox and polio vaccines in the early 1900s lead to left-handedness???

Did this factor in the number of right-handed males who started masturbating left-handed in hopes it would feel like someone else was giving them a handy?

 

[domer13]

It's pretty odd European news reported the 9/11 crash before it happened.

Error in BBC reporting doesn’t mean 9/11 was scripted – Full Fact

Conspiracy theories about World Trade Center 7 have flourished since the attack.

fullfact.org

If this is what you mean, the BBC (and others) mistakenly reported that World Trade Center Building 7 had fallen about half an hour before it did, not the planes crashing into the buildings.

 

[Lberry]

Error in BBC reporting doesn’t mean 9/11 was scripted – Full Fact

Conspiracy theories about World Trade Center 7 have flourished since the attack.

fullfact.org

If this is what you mean, the BBC (and others) mistakenly reported that World Trade Center Building 7 had fallen about half an hour before it did, not the planes crashing into the buildings.

Yes. I don't remember the exact details but remember seeing a compelling report that it was very bizarre timing.

 

[AvesEvo]

It's pretty odd European news reported the 9/11 crash before it happened.

I watched Oliver Stone's JFK for the first time yesterday. I believe it stated that New Zealand newspapers printed that Oswald was the man and had his biography hours before he was charged.

 

[RDU Irish]

If you think vaccines are bad, wait until you see what cell phone radiation does to you.

If you have met one kid with autism, you have met one kid with autism. But as a father of a boy who is on the spectrum, the bulk of this post is incredibly naive.

Sorry you take my anecdote personally, the struggle is real for those with actual autistic kids which is compounded by the interlopers covering their shitty parenting. I have met half a dozen kids whose parents claim autism for every one that really is. A lot are a bit quirky or wired a bit different to be thrown on "the spectrum" which I would offer means they are mostly on the non-autistic spectrum. However most, and I mean that as more than half, are parents who let the kid rule the roost and/or run feral, not just lacking parental control but making excuses incessantly. Provide no structure and no discipline and watch autistic behaviors run rampant.

The actual autistic kids are usually a joy while the a-holes are just attention seeking spoiled brats whose parent make excuses for every shitty behavior they don't realize they have reinforced since birth. Its a tragedy for those that need the services who have resources stretched from excessive diagnosis.

But damn if you can get that label your realm of services, extra test time, etc. is off the charts. My wife worked in child development diagnosing this stuff - autism and ADHD are ridiculously oversold.

 

[calvegas04]

Best airport I’ve traveled through when it comes to getting through TSA. A+ for efficiency.

Can't have Kanye West waiting in long lines when there are Illuminati meetings there

 

[Bluto]

Same. My favorites were KISS (Knights in Satan’s Service) & W.A.S.P. (We Are Satan’s People). Then you had the Judas Priest trial where teenage suicide was blamed on playing their record backwards. This was before Reddit mind you…LOL!

Even the hair metal bands got a taste of it when Motley Crue was being castigated for their album & song of the same title “Shout at the Devil”. I think it was Vince Neil who responded, “Dude, it’s “Shout AT the Devil” not “Shout WITH the Devil”.

Motley Crue right before Shout at the Devil was my first concert. I remember some protesters outside the venue telling one kid standing in line next to me “If you go in there you will go to hell!’.

His reply “Yeah? I hope so!” as he threw up the metal horns. Lol.

 

[Sea Turtle]

The JFK and RFK assassinations spawned many of the left wing conspiracy theories about the CIA. Then you had the theory on the CIA giving aids to black peoplein the US.

Some people just can't let themselves believe that great men can be killed by losers.

It was Oswald and Oswald only. He was an ex marine sharpshooter who got off a couple of good shots but he also missed. About what youd expect from a mid level sharpshooter. He was a loser. Even the Russians wanted nothing to do with him.

Oliver Stones movie is ridiculous.

Sirhan Sirhan was a pro palestinian nut and not brainwashed by a cia hypnosis lab(also ridiculous). What is this, A Clockwork Orange?

 

[NDFAN420]

Speaking of, what are some good left wing conspiracies? I hear all the right wing stuff due to where I live. What are the lefties talking about?

Today, the organization sounds like Bay Area Democrats

The Heritage Foundation’s Odd Shift Left | National Review

It has been a strange twist of fate to see this once mighty pillar of conservative dogma talking like the comments section of Huffington Post.

www.nationalreview.com

It's hard to say really. The far-Right and far-Left have aligned on so many issues that without a litmus test or two it's hard to tell them apart.

 

[yankeehater]

Same. My favorites were KISS (Knights in Satan’s Service) & W.A.S.P. (We Are Satan’s People). Then you had the Judas Priest trial where teenage suicide was blamed on playing their record backwards. This was before Reddit mind you…LOL!

Even the hair metal bands got a taste of it when Motley Crue was being castigated for their album & song of the same title “Shout at the Devil”. I think it was Vince Neil who responded, “Dude, it’s “Shout AT the Devil” not “Shout WITH the Devil”.

The bands can thank Tipper Gore for adding to their success. They loved having people like her trying to ban them because it just caused the youth to flock to their music even more. The crazy thing to me is now seeing dudes like Dee Snyder on the side with the same people who wanted his music banned and Billy Joe Armstrong siding with "The Man." Not very punk rock of him!

 

[yankeehater]

I still don't believe that whatever crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11 was an airplane

Cures for certain cancers/illnesses are being kept hidden

Putin killed Prigozhin

The US Oncology market size is supposed to be worth $536B by the year 2029. Makes you wonder if it is a conspiracy.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

I’d love to know the # of dads who insisted their sons learn to bat left-handed when growing up. I’ve got buddies (some of which played college baseball) who deny they did so but I doubt them when it turns out they do absolutely nothing else left-handed. Not saying it can’t happen as I’m sure there are some on this board who will claim they only batted & golfed left handed & did everything else RH.

I’m left handed, and probably do 40% of things righty naturally…

 

[IRISHDODGER]

The bands can thank Tipper Gore for adding to their success. They loved having people like her trying to ban them because it just caused the youth to flock to their music even more. The crazy thing to me is now seeing dudes like Dee Snyder on the side with the same people who wanted his music banned and Billy Joe Armstrong siding with "The Man." Not very punk rock of him!

Yeah, it’s ironic that Tipper was the point person of censoring music. She gets a pass b/c she’s a Dem. Same w/ Robert Byrd being a KKK member.

As a kid, you were definitely more prone to buy an album if it had the Parental Advisory sticker on it.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Motley Crue right before Shout at the Devil was my first concert. I remember some protesters outside the venue telling one kid standing in line next to me “If you go in there you will go to hell!’.

His reply “Yeah? I hope so!” as he threw up the metal horns. Lol.

Wish I would’ve saved all my concert t-shirts. Those things are considered vintage now & go for big bucks if they’re in decent condition.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I’m left handed, and probably do 40% of things righty naturally…

My son is the same. He does fine motor skills w/ his left hand but his gross motor skills are done w/ his right.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

The JFK and RFK assassinations spawned many of the left wing conspiracy theories about the CIA. Then you had the theory on the CIA giving aids to black peoplein the US.

Some people just can't let themselves believe that great men can be killed by losers.

It was Oswald and Oswald only. He was an ex marine sharpshooter who got off a couple of good shots but he also missed. About what youd expect from a mid level sharpshooter. He was a loser. Even the Russians wanted nothing to do with him.

Oliver Stones movie is ridiculous.

Sirhan Sirhan was a pro palestinian nut and not brainwashed by a cia hypnosis lab(also ridiculous). What is this, A Clockwork Orange?

I believe Oswald was the only shooter and fired the kill shot. But I also believe it was ultimately at the direction of the Democratic Party, with LBJ and a handful of others at the helm. That was a turning point - the regime that took over and subsequent regimes are not simply guys who decided to run for office….

 

[yankeehater]

Wish I would’ve saved all my concert t-shirts. Those things are considered vintage now & go for big bucks if they’re in decent condition.

The only two shirts I have are from a U2 show and a General Public one. I do have all of my vinyl still. I also have little pictures of the bands AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Styx and Van Halen (think I won them at the fair or something).

 

[IRISHDODGER]

The US Oncology market size is supposed to be worth $536B by the year 2029. Makes you wonder if it is a conspiracy.

I’ll let Perth & Valpo speak for the medical community but from a layperson’s perspective cancer covers a broad spectrum. There’s the solid tumors & then there’s blood cancers (hematology). If you can detect & treat a cancer before it metastasizes, you very well may be cured. While medicine continues to make progress, stage 4 cancer is still terminal. I look at it like other auto-immune diseases as the patient’s body attacks itself. Cancer, RA, Lupus, Hashimoto’s Disease, Parkinson’s, ALS, etc.

The good news for patients is now there are targeted therapies that treat cancers caused by mutations or specific bio markers. That means the treatments will directly treat that specific area unlike systemic chemo therapies which treat the entire body and lead to more side effects and possibly additional cancers later on. Chemo will always have a role but with Immuno-therapies & targeted biologics, it’s going to be less.

If I have terminal cancer & have exhausted NCCN recommended treatments, put my ass in a clinical trial.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

I’m left handed, and probably do 40% of things righty naturally…

Hockey: LH
Baseball: LH batting, Throw RH
Writing: RH
Eating: RH
Golf: LH
Drive: LH (prob cause I drove a stick for so long?)

My son is the same way. My daughter, writes and throws LH, but bats, golfs, plays hockey RH.

We all kinds of messed up

 

[Bishop2b5]

I’d love to know the # of dads who insisted their sons learn to bat left-handed when growing up. I’ve got buddies (some of which played college baseball) who deny they did so but I doubt them when it turns out they do absolutely nothing else left-handed. Not saying it can’t happen as I’m sure there are some on this board who will claim they only batted & golfed left handed & did everything else RH.

Did this factor in the number of right-handed males who started masturbating left-handed in hopes it would feel like someone else was giving them a handy?

Computers and the Internet were game changers. We have to hold the mouse with our right hand, don't we?

 

[Irish#1]

I’m left handed, and probably do 40% of things righty naturally…

My son is the same. He does fine motor skills w/ his left hand but his gross motor skills are done w/ his right.

Ambidextrous. I belong to the same club. Just remember. God made everyone right handed. Only the great could overcome that.

A ways back, the theory was JFK, RFK and Marilyn Monroe were all being kept alive on some remote island. Elvis joined them in '77.

 

[Ndaccountant]

If you think vaccines are bad, wait until you see what cell phone radiation does to you.


Sorry you take my anecdote personally, the struggle is real for those with actual autistic kids which is compounded by the interlopers covering their shitty parenting. I have met half a dozen kids whose parents claim autism for every one that really is. A lot are a bit quirky or wired a bit different to be thrown on "the spectrum" which I would offer means they are mostly on the non-autistic spectrum. However most, and I mean that as more than half, are parents who let the kid rule the roost and/or run feral, not just lacking parental control but making excuses incessantly. Provide no structure and no discipline and watch autistic behaviors run rampant.

The actual autistic kids are usually a joy while the a-holes are just attention seeking spoiled brats whose parent make excuses for every shitty behavior they don't realize they have reinforced since birth. Its a tragedy for those that need the services who have resources stretched from excessive diagnosis.

But damn if you can get that label your realm of services, extra test time, etc. is off the charts. My wife worked in child development diagnosing this stuff - autism and ADHD are ridiculously oversold.

The issue I have is that they call it a spectrum for a reason. Its a neurological difference. My son has a mild condition that impacts how he learns and how he interacts. He is mainstreamed because we started services at 3 yrs old. But we have heard countless times from people....no, he isn't autistic, just a bit weird. Bull fucking shit. He has worked his ass off to get where he is. Tones and comments reducing the condition to a label or only extreme cases undermines the situation and does great harm. Sure, extreme cases can be easily identified by most people. But the mild cases are very real even if you disagree with it.

I am just so fucking tired of people thinking they can judge him or his condition visually or with a handful of interactions. This isn't about extra testing time, or getting medications. It's about giving my boy a chance to thrive in a world that shuns differences or the unknown. Trying to minimize it or brush it off as oversold is callous at best to those who have it.

Your take isn't edgy or against the grain. It's the same as my FIL who would yell out my son, myself and my wife for letting our boy be out of control, at least in his mind. We kicked his ass out, ordered him a book and wouldn't let him back in our house until he educated himself. He understands now that he knows what the behaviours mean and why they are doing it. For fucks sake, don't pretend like you know it all....you don't.

 

[Giddyup]

I insisted my son bat lefty and throw righty. I did it subliminally though by wheeling in a tv to his crib so he watched babe Ruth highlights.

 

[Irish#1]

Might be a good time to table any discussion on Autism, COVID, vaccines, etc. or at least move it to the COVID thread.

 

[PerthDomer]

Here's your childhood vaccine schedule, by counts over time, with the associated autism prevelance:
1983 = 10 vaccines (Autism, 1 in 3,000)
2001 = 21 (Autism 1 in 250)
2013 = 31 (Autism 1 in 68)
2022 = 74 (Autism 1 in 32))

The trend is similar for Alzheirmers (a form of Dimensia). Alzheimers will likely be what brings down the US healthcare system to its knees overtime due to its high costs. It's a half trillion dollar industry as it stands.

Today, about 11% of people 65+ have alzheimers. 1 in 5 women will get it, and an estimated 1/10 men. In the 1980s, ~1.2% of the 65+ population had Alzheimers. Cancers I don't have time to even tip the iceberg on.

To actually dig into this would take hours or days, and the people posting in this thread don't want to entertain the idea that vaccines could be anything other than life savers, so I'll stop here.

Autism and Dimensia are not diagnosis that are easy to over prescribe. It's apparent when you meet an autistic kid; it's apparent when an elderly person forgets what they told you 5 minutes ago. Chalking this up as doctors being more observant may work for more sublimin conditions (ADHD, for example), but not these ones.

And correlation isn't causation, but these increases are screaming. So if it's not the introduction of cranking up the vaccine schedule, what is so new around that time that caused the giant spikes? What's are your most probably causes? I cannot prove to you that vaccines cause Autism and Dimensia (that study will never be funded), and I don't think it's only vaccines. But for someone to throw this out as a very possible contributor just shows the effectiveness of pharmaceutical programming.

Side note. You could spend the rest of your life interviewing Pediatric clinicians. You'll never find a case of SIDS without vaccines being given within a 72 hour window.

Here's your childhood vaccine schedule, by counts over time, with the associated autism prevelance:
1983 = 10 vaccines (Autism, 1 in 3,000)
2001 = 21 (Autism 1 in 250)
2013 = 31 (Autism 1 in 68)
2022 = 74 (Autism 1 in 32))

The trend is similar for Alzheirmers (a form of Dimensia). Alzheimers will likely be what brings down the US healthcare system to its knees overtime due to its high costs. It's a half trillion dollar industry as it stands.

Today, about 11% of people 65+ have alzheimers. 1 in 5 women will get it, and an estimated 1/10 men. In the 1980s, ~1.2% of the 65+ population had Alzheimers. Cancers I don't have time to even tip the iceberg on.

To actually dig into this would take hours or days, and the people posting in this thread don't want to entertain the idea that vaccines could be anything other than life savers, so I'll stop here.

Autism and Dimensia are not diagnosis that are easy to over prescribe. It's apparent when you meet an autistic kid; it's apparent when an elderly person forgets what they told you 5 minutes ago. Chalking this up as doctors being more observant may work for more sublimin conditions (ADHD, for example), but not these ones.

And correlation isn't causation, but these increases are screaming. So if it's not the introduction of cranking up the vaccine schedule, what is so new around that time that caused the giant spikes? What's are your most probably causes? I cannot prove to you that vaccines cause Autism and Dimensia (that study will never be funded), and I don't think it's only vaccines. But for someone to throw this out as a very possible contributor just shows the effectiveness of pharmaceutical programming.

Side note. You could spend the rest of your life interviewing Pediatric clinicians. You'll never find a case of SIDS without vaccines being given within a 72 hour window.

I've seen SIDS happen outside of that window.

It's Dementia

Autism gets you very intense behavioral therapy covered (ABA) which is really nice for parents to have.

Increasing complexity gets you more billing. Alzheimers allows you to get more things (more intense nursing care) covered. It's also a 100 billion dollar drug target.

Age adjusted rates of dementia are going down. The increased 65 plus rates of alzheimers going up is compositional because there are more 70, 80, 90 year olds now than there were before. People live longer with Dementia now than 1990, so we have more people living with Dementia.

Incidence of Dementia and Alzheimer’s Disease Over Time: a Meta-Analysis - PMC

Population-based incidence estimates of dementia and Alzheimer’s disease (AD) provide important information for public health policy and resource allocation. We conducted a meta-analysis of published studies that reported age-specific incidence ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[sixstar]

Paul from the Wonder Years grew up to be Marilyn Manson

 

[RDU Irish]

The issue I have is that they call it a spectrum for a reason. Its a neurological difference. My son has a mild condition that impacts how he learns and how he interacts. He is mainstreamed because we started services at 3 yrs old. But we have heard countless times from people....no, he isn't autistic, just a bit weird. Bull fucking shit. He has worked his ass off to get where he is. Tones and comments reducing the condition to a label or only extreme cases undermines the situation and does great harm. Sure, extreme cases can be easily identified by most people. But the mild cases are very real even if you disagree with it.

I am just so fucking tired of people thinking they can judge him or his condition visually or with a handful of interactions. This isn't about extra testing time, or getting medications. It's about giving my boy a chance to thrive in a world that shuns differences or the unknown. Trying to minimize it or brush it off as oversold is callous at best to those who have it.

Your take isn't edgy or against the grain. It's the same as my FIL who would yell out my son, myself and my wife for letting our boy be out of control, at least in his mind. We kicked his ass out, ordered him a book and wouldn't let him back in our house until he educated himself. He understands now that he knows what the behaviours mean and why they are doing it. For fucks sake, don't pretend like you know it all....you don't.

Over diagnosed broadly doesn't mean your diagnosis is wrong. It's like illegal immigration, legal immigrants should be the most upset with illegal immigration and those exploiting the system whereas you honestly think 1 in 32 kids is autistic.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

The issue I have is that they call it a spectrum for a reason. Its a neurological difference. My son has a mild condition that impacts how he learns and how he interacts. He is mainstreamed because we started services at 3 yrs old. But we have heard countless times from people....no, he isn't autistic, just a bit weird. Bull fucking shit. He has worked his ass off to get where he is. Tones and comments reducing the condition to a label or only extreme cases undermines the situation and does great harm. Sure, extreme cases can be easily identified by most people. But the mild cases are very real even if you disagree with it.

I am just so fucking tired of people thinking they can judge him or his condition visually or with a handful of interactions. This isn't about extra testing time, or getting medications. It's about giving my boy a chance to thrive in a world that shuns differences or the unknown. Trying to minimize it or brush it off as oversold is callous at best to those who have it.

Your take isn't edgy or against the grain. It's the same as my FIL who would yell out my son, myself and my wife for letting our boy be out of control, at least in his mind. We kicked his ass out, ordered him a book and wouldn't let him back in our house until he educated himself. He understands now that he knows what the behaviours mean and why they are doing it. For fucks sake, don't pretend like you know it all....you don't.

Thank you

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Paul from the Wonder Years grew up to be Marilyn Manson

and that whole removing a rib thing....