'20 KY TE Michael Mayer (Notre Dame Signee)

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Kiper now has the TE from Utah (Kincaid) as the #1 TE in the draft ahead of Mayer. Has him going to Green Bay at #16 and Mayer at #26.
 
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Feel like Mayer just has "it" and will succeed no matter where he goes even if his measurables don't quite "pop." I think going later in the first round could wind up being a blessing for him. The way he carried the team this year was inspiring. He also is basically the human version of the giga chad meme. Unrelated, but it seems like ND usually has one NFL "all star" type per class, roughly. Do you guys think that's about right? Mayer looks to be the guy for this class.
 
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Kiper now has the TE from Utah (Kincaid) as the #1 TE in the draft ahead of Mayer. Has him going to Green Bay at #16 and Mayer at #26.
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Kiper is on crack. Utah had other receiving weapons, at least one WR broke 700 yards for them. Mayer was our only major target, no WR broke 400 yards for us. Constantly double teamed, something the other TEs can't really say. Well, maybe LaPorta can say that since the Iowa offense was so bad, but he also didn't have the same stats and didn't have a backup throwing to him.
 
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I am fully prepared for Mayer to not be the first TE taken and potentially go second round. The TE class in this draft is very good and the teams looking for one get to have multiple sets of eyes on multiple players.

I put my bias aside, I still think Mayer is the best TE in this draft, but I also know that these NFL teams are not going to see it that way and someone is probably pulling the lever for someone different when the first TE goes off the board.

Just hope he goes to a good team that is a good fit, stays healthy and has a good football career. Apart from that, whatever.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
I am fully prepared for Mayer to not be the first TE taken and potentially go second round. The TE class in this draft is very good and the teams looking for one get to have multiple sets of eyes on multiple players.

I put my bias aside, I still think Mayer is the best TE in this draft, but I also know that these NFL teams are not going to see it that way and someone is probably pulling the lever for someone different when the first TE goes off the board.

Just hope he goes to a good team that is a good fit, stays healthy and has a good football career. Apart from that, whatever.
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I think he's easily the most well rounded sure thing at TE. But if a team is looking to take a risk at a chance to have the next kittle, kelce, etc. That's not Mayer. He doesn't have that level of athleticism.
 
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Any of this chatter have anything to do with Kincaid getting cleared to play from the back injury he suffered? That news broke yesterday.

Mayer is 21 and Kincaid is 23 coming off a back injury. NFL people look at the miles on the tires for every player at every position. They're investments and you want to get the most out of them that you can. Especially first rounders getting first round money.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
Any of this chatter have anything to do with Kincaid getting cleared to play from the back injury he suffered? That news broke yesterday.

Mayer is 21 and Kincaid is 23 coming off a back injury. NFL people look at the miles on the tires for every player at every position. They're investments and you want to get the most out of them that you can. Especially first rounders getting first round money.
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Don't know but despite the insane high snap counts he has played for 3 years at the position, he never missed a game(except South Carolina- obviously not due to injury) so that has to be a positive.
 
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PutuporShutup said:
I think he's easily the most well rounded sure thing at TE. But if a team is looking to take a risk at a chance to have the next kittle, kelce, etc. That's not Mayer. He doesn't have that level of athleticism.
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No, he doesn't, and that being said I do think coaches will love his attitude and physicality. He's not a converted basketball guy.

I think you can grade out Mayer, Kincaid and Musgrave the same in this draft where all three could wind up being ten year starters that return the value of the pick and then some. This is the best TE draft since 2019 but there isn't the crazy athlete type like Kelce, Kittle, Pitts. There isn't a huge demand for the position right now in The League. That said, this is a good draft for TE and whether Mayer is the first TE off the board or third he's going to give whoever drafts him great value. That's really all that matters.

There isn't a single ND fan on this board or anywhere else in the world that has their pride wounded because he's not the first TE drafted and or goes in the second round. The Mackey Award hose job should be enough to make us realize life isn't fair and people are generally stupid.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
No, he doesn't, and that being said I do think coaches will love his attitude and physicality. He's not a converted basketball guy.

I think you can grade out Mayer, Kincaid and Musgrave the same in this draft where all three could wind up being ten year starters that return the value of the pick and then some. This is the best TE draft since 2019 but there isn't the crazy athlete type like Kelce, Kittle, Pitts. There isn't a huge demand for the position right now in The League. That said, this is a good draft for TE and whether Mayer is the first TE off the board or third he's going to give whoever drafts him great value. That's really all that matters.

There isn't a single ND fan on this board or anywhere else in the world that has their pride wounded because he's not the first TE drafted and or goes in the second round. The Mackey Award hose job should be enough to make us realize life isn't fair and people are generally stupid.
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Na, fuck that shit. The disrespect is insane. That dude was the best TE in college football last year. He had the stats, he was graded #1 overall, and teams knew he was getting the ball almost every pass and he still came down with it.
 
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Na, fuck that shit. The disrespect is insane. That dude was the best TE in college football last year. He had the stats, he was graded #1 overall, and teams knew he was getting the ball almost every pass and he still came down with it.
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That's just it. He's not going to be playing against college kids anymore. Mayer is being evaluated to play professional football, not being disrespected.

Maybe he'll "use it" and have a "chip on his shoulder", have a long career and "shock the world" when "nobody gave him a chance."
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
That's just it. He's not going to be playing against college kids anymore. Mayer is being evaluated to play professional football, not being disrespected.

Maybe he'll "use it" and have a "chip on his shoulder", have a long career and "shock the world" when "nobody gave him a chance."
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Also, There are what? maybe 6-7 offenses that 'use' a tight end. I have no idea what its so over looked in the NFL
 
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Also, There are what? maybe 6-7 offenses that 'use' a tight end. I have no idea what its so over looked in the NFL
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Injuries, defensive coverages, there are a multitude of things that have caused the production of the position to dip. From an efficiency standpoint, though, the position across the League is doing great things when their number is called.

Tight ends are underpaid and undervalued. That being said, if you need one, this is the draft to be looking.
 
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Mina Kimes is so damn good at her job!
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It's a pretty remarkable journey considering she's a Yale grad, of all things. I really enjoy her podcast and TV coverage. Her haters and trolls on social media are hilarious, but typically when anyone makes fools of themselves deliberately it's funny.

She was a guest on The Pivot recently. It was very good content.

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She never ever misses. She went to bat for Kyle Hamilton all the year through the draft buildup last year and she was 100% right.
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She said he was the best player in the draft. Period. She may turn out to be wrong, but we'll see how it all plays out.

Hamilton is also a fresh cautionary tale when it comes to Mayer. Mayer may drop down the board. So what? He's going to get an opportunity and whoever drafts him is going to be thrilled regardless of what slot they get him at.
 
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If Mayer isn’t the first TE taken then I give up on rating players.
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Kincaid is very good, but he wasn't the only receiving weapon in that offense. Teams knew Mayer was getting the ball almost every play and they still couldn't stop him. There's the fact he's a great blocker too. Teams would be foolish if they don't take him first.
 
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Kincaid is very good, but he wasn't the only receiving weapon in that offense. Teams knew Mayer was getting the ball almost every play and they still couldn't stop him. There's the fact he's a great blocker too. Teams would be foolish if they don't take him first.
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Too many mock drafts and too much time to overthink it. They over analyze to the point of talking themselves out of guys after touting them as slam dunk 1st rounders
 
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