'21 OH WR Lorenzo Styles Jr. (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

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Irish#1 said:
It's all about how you handle the pressure.
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Agree. It also brings up the question of the sports psychologist that is currently working with the football team. The one that BK had is really well known in her field and seemed to have great relationships with the team. I have no idea what the current psychology staff is like.
 
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To me this is simple, if this was mental, he's had an opportunity to address it and regain focus. This spring needs to be about showing drastic improvement. If part of his issue was physical, fast track him to free safety.

If Watts and Styles were our starting safeties, we have a chance to compete with the elite on therw back end given what the corners displayed last year.
 
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IAIrish said:
To me this is simple, if this was mental, he's had an opportunity to address it and regain focus. This spring needs to be about showing drastic improvement. If part of his issue was physical, fast track him to free safety.

If Watts and Styles were our starting safeties, we have a chance to compete with the elite on therw back end given what the corners displayed last year.
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It’s true, at this point we may need him more at safety than at WR. Two years of eligibility left, right?
 
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Matt Freeman tweeted some high school highlights of him playing corner. The very brief highlight film screams that this dude can be a very good nickel
 
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They certainly made it seem like a decision was set for today or tomorrow. I believe Freeman, yesterday, said we’ll know more over the next 24-48 hrs. I don’t think he’s a CB but he’d be a tremendous athlete and has the size for S.
 
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I am not sure this a good thing for him. He has been struggling as a wide receiver so now they are gonna split his time up. You don’t normally take someone that’s struggling and practice less with them.

But we’ll see. Maybe he picks up the defense faster or has mor interest in it.
 
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They certainly made it seem like a decision was set for today or tomorrow. I believe Freeman, yesterday, said we’ll know more over the next 24-48 hrs. I don’t think he’s a CB but he’d be a tremendous athlete and has the size for S.
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I think he has to play S if he’s gonna play defense. He’s not going to be in any better shape for playing time than he is at WR if you look at the CB depth chart/talent. He’s got a decent chance to slide in front of Brown/Henderson.
 
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I think he has to play S if he’s gonna play defense. He’s not going to be in any better shape for playing time than he is at WR if you look at the CB depth chart/talent. He’s got a decent chance to slide in front of Brown/Henderson.
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CB depth is good right now but I’m not sure we can trust Hart all year.
 
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clearly Ohio State reached out to MF and asked him to get Styles reps at corner so hes ready to play defense for them in the fall
 
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Listening to Prister, he liked his defensive film better than his WR film. Also mentioned that tOSU was recruiting him at DB so maybe ND agreeing to let him be a WR was what put the Irish over the top? Would’ve been a better move a year ago but he was coming off a true freshman season that showed a bright future.
 
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From Freeman's after scrimmage presser on Saturday, he basically said he had been mentioning the idea to Styles for a while, and was waiting for him to act on it. Freeman told him to just hop in and get a rep with the DB's when he had a chance. He got one rep in and the media saw it and obviously reported the hell out of it. They will try in the next couple of practices to get him some actual work at DB with the possibility of him seeing some time on both sides of the ball Saturday. Very much up in the air at this point and the ball seems to be in Styles' court.
 
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irishfan said:
You can never have enough CB depth when the two toughest games will be OSU and USC
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OSU, USC, Clemson, NC State with Armstrong, Stanford’s new coach is a passing coach, Duke is a spread, WF is a spread, Louisville is a spread, so 8 of your 12 games you will be in nickel/dime a lot.
Heck, even Pitt with Jurk will probably try to throw.
 
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OSU, USC, Clemson, NC State with Armstrong, Stanford’s new coach is a passing coach, Duke is a spread, WF is a spread, Louisville is a spread, so 8 of your 12 games you will be in nickel/dime a lot.
Heck, even Pitt with Jurk will probably try to throw.
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Yep. Lots of these games I think your 4th CB may be more important than say your 3rd-best WR (pure guess that’s where he’d be at after Meriweather/Thomas).

Everyone (myself included) thinks we could have incredible CBs but I think that’s making some optimistic assumptions:

—Cam Hart’s shoulder may not hold up
—Is Lewis actually going to be a revelation at nickel?
—Mickey was up and down all last year and everyone is predicting he’ll improve greatly but you never know
—Hard to bank on Gray as a true frosh
—not a lot of buzz on anyone else
 
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Yep. Lots of these games I think your 4th CB may be more important than say your 3rd-best WR (pure guess that’s where he’d be at after Meriweather/Thomas).

Everyone (myself included) thinks we could have incredible CBs but I think that’s making some optimistic assumptions:

—Cam Hart’s shoulder may not hold up
—Is Lewis actually going to be a revelation at nickel?
—Mickey was up and down all last year and everyone is predicting he’ll improve greatly but you never know
—Hard to bank on Gray as a true frosh
—not a lot of buzz on anyone else
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Well, there is that one guy, Benjamin Morrison. He's been alright
 
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OSU, USC, Clemson, NC State with Armstrong, Stanford’s new coach is a passing coach, Duke is a spread, WF is a spread, Louisville is a spread, so 8 of your 12 games you will be in nickel/dime a lot.
Heck, even Pitt with Jurk will probably try to throw.
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Jurkovec as a hometown hero or not... Narduzzi will get naked and kiss a man on the sidelines before he turns to a pass-heavy attack.

They had one of the best offenses in the COUNTRY with Kenny Pickett at the helm in 2021. Dude threw for 4000+ yards and 42 (!) touchdowns...

Nard Dog hated it so much that he asked his offensive coordinator, Mark Whipple, to leave after the season. He cited "a lack of success running the ball" for the "mutual" parting of ways.
 
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Jurkovec as a hometown hero or not... Narduzzi will get naked and kiss a man on the sidelines before he turns to a pass-heavy attack.

They had one of the best offenses in the COUNTRY with Kenny Pickett at the helm in 2021. Dude threw for 4000+ yards and 42 (!) touchdowns...

Nard Dog hated it so much that he asked his offensive coordinator, Mark Whipple, to leave after the season. He cited "a lack of success running the ball" for the "mutual" parting of ways.
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Phil probably won’t even be healthy by the time we play them.
He will sit out & hang his teammates out to dry again by writing some d-bag open letter to ND again. Then Narduzzi will accuse ND of cheating again.
 
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irishfan said:
My point was the depth beyond him may be more questionable than people want to admit.
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I don't think anyone is in denial about this. Our depth isn't questionable but if everything turns for the worst as your post mentioned, then we'd be in a bad position. Just like any program. This isn't a huge concern right now. Stack 2-3 injuries and it's a huge concern.

If Cam's should doesn't hold up, if Lewis isn't good at nickel/CB, if Mickey doesn't improve from his true freshman season, if Gray can't earn meaningful minutes, and if no one else steps up then you're probably right but that is a lot of things that have to go against you.

Even if each was a 50/50 proposition (they aren't) what's the probably you flip heads 5 times in a row? ~ 3% so now take those odds and adjust for each probability.
 
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