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The clips on the Tweet, he doesn't mention race.

Everyone is left to infer he's talking about black kids?
Exactly. He never once mentions “black” kids, yet the responses on Twitter have assumed he did. Former NFL & University of Cincinnati DL Derek Wolfe fits Deion’s profile perfectly…and he happens to be white.
 

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Andy Staples, Ari Wasserman & David Ubben discuss this on Staples’ podcast.

 

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He’s generally right. You can usually easily pick out the kids with no dad at home by their behavior. There are exceptions of course.

Doesn’t matter the race.
 

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He’s generally right. You can usually easily pick out the kids with no dad at home by their behavior. There are exceptions of course.

Doesn’t matter the race.
I think if he had prefaced his comments w/ “Generally speaking…” it would’ve helped b/c, you’re right; he was speaking in generalities. Of course, he’s going to take a Lamar Jackson as a QB commit regardless of his presence or absence of a father. Same w/ guys like Isaiah Foskey or DeMarcus Ware on defense. Those dudes are monsters on the field & were raised w/ mother & father in the home.
 

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Quite the lightning rod already:




 

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Quite the lightning rod already:




Surely Deion knows the history of that university & it’s reputation.

Ward Churchill was just re-hired and has already called Coach Prime & his players who followed him via transfer portal “little Eichmanns”
 

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Shadeur Sanders might go the NFL. He might not. He might blow his knee out and never play football again at CU. Maybe he winds up like Malik Henry in some second rate Arena League. Whatever happens, he has the safety net of wealth and parents who can look after him. Just like Jimmy Clausen did.

Lamar Jackson, Teddy Bridgewater, Joe Burrow, Tony Romo and many others didn't have this. They didn't have private coaches flying across the country to tutor them for thousands of dollars a pop, they didn't have famous and or wealthy parents or a built in pedigree to play quarterback. The position has changed over the years because of the spread and analytics, yes, but what it will require today that it did before are intangibles. That hasn't changed.

QB and all the other positions, just get me talent that wants to work. Iron sharpens iron. The three star who wants to start. The four star who wants to be an All American. The five star striving for the Hall of Fame. That's it. The rest of it is cake and watermelon.

All that being said, as a middle aged white guy, there are certain topics that I feel I don't have business to speak on so I don't do it. Some of these topics are ones that Deion Sanders is probably more suited to address as far as I'm concerned, and that's fine, so I'll let him do it while I leave it the fuck alone. If Deion Sanders decided to start talking about Italians who grew up in Chicago, however, I'd be inclined to take issue and weigh in.
 

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Sounds like Sanders could be talking about ND.

“It was the ideology, the thought process, the forward-thinking. It was meeting me at the crossroad. That’s what was involved in that. And sooner or later you have to really look in the mirror and say — are they going to get there? Do they even want to get there? And I had to ask those questions and really be honest with them.”
 

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His lack of humility really does conflict with his claim that "God's got me." It's part of what makes him so damn interesting.

He's old school on the one hand, but on the other he's rebranding the coach version of himself in a 2023 way.

From the time he got to Jackson State up until now, you know he's done nothing but upset the apple carts to some degree of guys like Saban. Saban went so far as to call out JSU publicly for supposedly giving a kid millions of dollars. Then he had to shoot another commercial with Deion.

Anytime somebody comes along and disturbs the natural order of things with recruiting, etc. (Zook at IL, Fleck at WMU), people start to sweat a little bit here and there. It's pretty much what DS is doing now, only he's doing it louder and in the NIL/Portal Era.
 

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I love Prime. I will pull for him big time. He has a decent staff, decent facilities but Colorado is not a football state. He has his work cut out for him there.

Auburn got a decent coach but man he would have been great there. If Norvell doesn't win 9+ games a year the crying for Prime to go be HC at FSU will be defeaning.

Hopefully CU's AD didn't pull a Swarbrick and instead has a very large Buy-Out for Prime. He is not going to be there more than 2 seasons I bet....
 

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I love Prime. I will pull for him big time. He has a decent staff, decent facilities but Colorado is not a football state. He has his work cut out for him there.

Auburn got a decent coach but man he would have been great there. If Norvell doesn't win 9+ games a year the crying for Prime to go be HC at FSU will be defeaning.

Hopefully CU's AD didn't pull a Swarbrick and instead has a very large Buy-Out for Prime. He is not going to be there more than 2 seasons I bet....
Sanders might have been a good hire for Auburn, but I'm not sure Auburn would've been a good thing for Sanders. Butting heads with Saban and Smart 24/7/365 is probably not a good way to start your FBS coaching career. It's HARD to have much long-term success at Auburn. You're surrounded by 2 and sometimes 4 or 5 major programs and you're the one with the smallest fanbase and the most interference from boosters.
 
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Sanders might have been a good hire for Auburn, but I'm not sure Auburn would've been a good thing for Sanders. Butting heads with Saban and Smart 24/7/365 is probably not a good way to start your FBS coaching career. It's HARD to have much long-term success at Auburn. You're surrounded by 2 and sometimes 4 or 5 major programs and you're the one with the smallest fanbase and the most interference from boosters.
One of the things he said on The Pivot podcast was he had options but chose Colorado with his kids in mind.

Both of his sons probably would not be able to justify being starters at Auburn or most SEC schools. The progression from JSU to CU for Shadeur and Shiloh makes sense from a football standpoint.

I thought it was interesting when he told Ryan Clark why he chose CU and Clark straight up asked him about nepotism. His response was very solid.
 

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One of the things he said on The Pivot podcast was he had options but chose Colorado with his kids in mind.

Both of his sons probably would not be able to justify being starters at Auburn or most SEC schools. The progression from JSU to CU for Shadeur and Shiloh makes sense from a football standpoint.

I thought it was interesting when he told Ryan Clark why he chose CU and Clark straight up asked him about nepotism. His response was very solid.
Yeah, there's not a strong enough fan base at CU to impose enough pressure about playing his kids and as said, the talent level isn't the same as the SEC.
 

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I lol how a lot of people think his coaching style is very new age and modern and all that but in reality he’s the Boomerist Coach going bar maybe Saban


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Deon's a GenX. Old School seems more appropriate, but not "old" Old School. lol
 

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tbf i think the way Prime uses his son is in a way that "this kid is the baseline for what a QB for me should be". He's not saying he's a world beater but he operates the way he wants his QB's to operate. I think down the line he will have way more talented QB's on his teams but he will always go back to his son as the blueprint in personality and how he prepares and studies etc
 

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tbf i think the way Prime uses his son is in a way that "this kid is the baseline for what a QB for me should be". He's not saying he's a world beater but he operates the way he wants his QB's to operate. I think down the line he will have way more talented QB's on his teams but he will always go back to his son as the blueprint in personality and how he prepares and studies etc
I think you're spot on. This is a kid who I honestly think has worked tremendously hard to get to this point in spite of having the financial backing from his dad that a lot of these other privately coached kids also have too. He's putting in the extra work and has the type of first to show up and last to leave type of mindset.

His measurables are an issue, but I think he's very accurate, smart and tough enough for the position. He can throw receivers open. Shadeur has the work ethic and confidence you want to see in a QB1.

Just has a lot to prove going to JSU to CU.
 

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I think you're spot on. This is a kid who I honestly think has worked tremendously hard to get to this point in spite of having the financial backing from his dad that a lot of these other privately coached kids also have too. He's putting in the extra work and has the type of first to show up and last to leave type of mindset.

His measurables are an issue, but I think he's very accurate, smart and tough enough for the position. He can throw receivers open. Shadeur has the work ethic and confidence you want to see in a QB1.

Just has a lot to prove going to JSU to CU.
Could be he does that because he feels the pressure to do so.
 

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Okay, so I have the count. Since Deion was hired, and since the first portal window opened on December 5th.... 32 players from the 2022 Colorado Buffs roster have entered the transfer portal. But, he's also brought in 29 so far.
 
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