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FightingIrishLover7 said:
Loy just said Bowen spoke with ND after and told them he wants to go to South Bend...an hour after that he told OK he wants to be there....

He is not remorseful. He is still lying.
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I wouldn’t blame ND for moving on. He’s unlikely to go through 3 years with no issues at ND and his teammates surely know the above is happening too. If he apologized and just came back to ND and not OU it would have been one thing, but this is madness. Let Mom lose, Dad lose, girlfriend win.
 
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So, Oklahoma went from 3rd to 1st?

LOL

My guess is one of three things happened:

1) Dad wanted Oregon. Mom wanted ND. Girlfriend wanted Oklahoma. Mom + girlfriend were mad he chose Oregon. Oklahoma is offering enough to satisfy Dad and it's not ND, but it's closer to home so Mom can live with it.

2) Oregon fine print wasn't as promised, so now they are taking the 2nd best immediate offer.

3) Oklahoma increased their offer and beat out Oregon.
 
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Odds he does another announcement ceremony today and hat switches ND again? Hoping that's how this ends at this point.
 
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Dale said:
I wouldn’t blame ND for moving on. He’s unlikely to go through 3 years with no issues at ND and his teammates surely know the above is happening too. If he apologized and just came back to ND and not OU it would have been one thing, but this is madness. Let Mom lose, Dad lose, girlfriend win.
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Based on what? Being slightly immature and indecisive? There’s nothing that indicates he’s an issue off the field.
 
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arrowryan said:
I’m perfectly content with Shuler/Hillman/Minich.

Bowen is having a very similar recruitment as Moore. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if both end up at 3 different schools over the next 4-5 years.
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Why? That’s not an elite trio. Hillman has a ton of developing to do. Minich is at his ceiling already. Shuler will be a good college player, nothing special.

Bowen is elite. And in the real world, teams put up with more shit from talented players.
 
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drayer54 said:
The guy is clearly more drama than an afternoon soap opera. I don’t care if he can ball. I like what Freeman said, if you are NIL motivated, this isn’t the place for you.
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That’s moronic. You can’t want $ and play at ND? No, he’s an elite player, who pulled an immature stunt. People are acting like he killed someone.
 
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Dale said:
I wouldn’t blame ND for moving on. He’s unlikely to go through 3 years with no issues at ND and his teammates surely know the above is happening too. If he apologized and just came back to ND and not OU it would have been one thing, but this is madness. Let Mom lose, Dad lose, girlfriend win.
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Yup Peace Out. He is going to be a headache. Second 5 star bullet we dodged, only one that sucks is Keeley
 
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NDIrish1988 said:
Based on what? Being slightly immature and indecisive? There’s nothing that indicates he’s an issue off the field.
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Commitment/loyalty issues, lying, I don't know...I would say there's red flags there.
Quit talking to him, kick him to the curb. He's not better than Hamilton, he's not going to bring a championship all by himself. I'm fine with what we have.
 
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ulukinatme said:
Commitment/loyalty issues, lying, I don't know...I would say there's red flags there.
Quit talking to him, kick him to the curb. He's not better than Hamilton, he's not going to bring a championship all by himself. I'm fine with what we have.
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Kids change their mind, they do dumb things they think are funny. No, you take him. Let the try hards go to the MAC, this is big boy football.
 
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NDPhilly said:
He's worth the risk. Worst case scenario is that he transfers out within a year. Best case is that he's a three year starter, two time All American, and a top 15 draft pick.
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Yep. Too many fans are butthurt over an immature joke. If he did something that got him in trouble with the law or had a history of being kicked off teams, that’s a difft story.
 
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People talking about how they would still take him are missing the boat. He isn't coming. If he didn't choose ND yesterday, he isn't choosing ND today. Nothing has changed about our offer. He's either sticking with Oregon or going to Oklahoma.
 
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NDIrish1988 said:
Based on what? Being slightly immature and indecisive? There’s nothing that indicates he’s an issue off the field.
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Add the dynamics of an apparent money hungry dad and I can see where he is torn. At some point Bowen has to realize that he isn't going to please everyone around him. If the dad an ounce of responsibility in him he would let the kid decide where he wants to play football. If it's OU or Oregon then so be it. It's his future not anyone else's.

Now, I do think he has to own how all this has played out. If he could rewind yesterday maybe he just postpones his commitment until he was 100% certain of where he wants to go. I wish I could rewind some of my decisions when I was 18 so I am not going to be hard on him. Learn your lessons and move on... just hope you make the right decision for not just 2-3 years but for a lifetime. There's clearly one of the three that can offer that. I just hope Bowen can see that in the end.
 
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thekid33 said:
People talking about how they would still take him are missing the boat. He isn't coming. If he didn't choose ND yesterday, he isn't choosing ND today. Nothing has changed about our offer. He's either sticking with Oregon or going to Oklahoma.
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Not if mom has a say. Seeing her reaction, ND isn’t out of it.
 
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Screw this guy. What a douche. Also it looks a lot cooler if you don’t wince and cough while smoking the cigar
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The guy has big time Jr from Smokey and the Bandit vibes, no real skill or brains. That, or a petulant spoiled kid "My daddy's rich, he'll buy me whatever I want and I don't have to do nuthin' for it!"

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T Town Tommy said:
Add the dynamics of an apparent money hungry dad and I can see where he is torn. At some point Bowen has to realize that he isn't going to please everyone around him. If the dad an ounce of responsibility in him he would let the kid decide where he wants to play football. If it's OU or Oregon then so be it. It's his future not anyone else's.

Now, I do think he has to own how all this has played out. If he could rewind yesterday maybe he just postpones his commitment until he was 100% certain of where he wants to go. I wish I could rewind some of my decisions when I was 18 so I am not going to be hard on him. Learn your lessons and move on... just hope you make the right decision for not just 2-3 years but for a lifetime. There's clearly one of the three that can offer that. I just hope Bowen can see that in the end.
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Who cares if they want $? ND should pay them. Otherwise, why even bother recruiting elite players if they’re going to get stolen?
 
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T Town Tommy said:
Add the dynamics of an apparent money hungry dad and I can see where he is torn. At some point Bowen has to realize that he isn't going to please everyone around him. If the dad an ounce of responsibility in him he would let the kid decide where he wants to play football. If it's OU or Oregon then so be it. It's his future not anyone else's.

Now, I do think he has to own how all this has played out. If he could rewind yesterday maybe he just postpones his commitment until he was 100% certain of where he wants to go. I wish I could rewind some of my decisions when I was 18 so I am not going to be hard on him. Learn your lessons and move on... just hope you make the right decision for not just 2-3 years but for a lifetime. There's clearly one of the three that can offer that. I just hope Bowen can see that in the end.
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Well said. It was pretty obvious his Mom wanted ND and Dad wants the bag at Oregon, and his friends/GF want OU.
 
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I think he wanted ND round 2.
Told ND he's coming
Calls OK to say bye
They magically come up with money
...ok, now we're talking

I think OK striking out on 2 five stars yesterday hurt them. I think knowing that they have the chance to buy one on a day-after sale woke them up.
 
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