Couldn’t agree more. The whole “Irish fans didn’t appreciate what they had” is a bit off base. We would get routinely run off the field when we played top 10 teams. Most players didn’t seem to have much of any relationship with him. And we all know about his seemingly lazy recruiting while at ND
He's coming to the game right? Just give the kid a helmet.
Recalling the reddit shitstorm, it was a good mix of ND fans and SEC fans.
Irishdrunk needs to join a LSU board....
I think that is weak. It makes ND seem week. ND should never feel like a VICTIM. Good lord.
All I know is that Kelly made some great off season moves by bringing in lots of studs in the portal at LSU while Freeman and Rees thought their QB room was just fine.....
All things being equal, if he wants to win a NC; it was the right move for him. Brian Kelly wasn’t going to win a NC at ND despite being the all-time winningest HC & bringing the program back from the depths of mediocrity. I don’t know if MF will win a natty but I know he can do what no coach since Holtz did…bring in elite talent on both sides of the ball.
Sorry Dale - its a real issue. Our QB room is a nightmare. TB is injury prone, Pyne is not ready, neither is Angeli, and RP3 shouldn't have a scholly and we are waiting on a current Junior as the next commit.
Don’t know how long you’ve been an ND fan but to assume they can just “bring in lots of studs in the portal” like the LSUs of the world is pretty telling. Helen Keller could recruit successfully to LSU so let’s not act like that‘s a heavy lift like it is at ND.
Freeman has yet to sign this class. We will see how much better it is that Kelly's recruiting. Losing Keeley and not having a QB in this class are serious setbacks.
Yes those are serious setbacks that Brian Kelly couldn’t have avoided either. BK was the man in charge when ND signed Angeli, Pyne, Buchner, Book, etc. Can’t have it both ways.
I am not comparing transfers wholesale at ND. Yes ND has hurdles that other schools don't have. Something Kelly discussed in his move. Something many of us ND fans often refuse to acknowledge, too. But what I was trying to state is that Kelly knows how to turn a program around and make the right moves in the offseason. Not taking 1 Grad QB was a massive screwup by Freeman and Rees.
I am not having it both ways. Apples to Apples. This class when signed might be about a Top 5 class. Not Top 3 or better.
Fair but you say that massive screwup like BK was mistake-free during his time at ND. Was it as massive a screw up in year one of a first time HC as going 4-8 in year 7 w/ plenty of talent that BK was responsible for bringing in?
When did BK bring in a top 3 class while at ND?
Where does it say either HC have SIGNED the #1 class??? That would be news to me. When Freeman SIGNS at Top 3 Class then that would be worth discussions. I think the class will be 4 - 7 type class when signed. Similar to ranges Kelly has been in.
Last year was 1 of maybe 2 times Kelly had a top 7 class. Freeman out recruits Kelly in his sleep
Never - but Freeman has yet to SIGN a class. That is my point. Everyone wants to project the best on Freeman and he has yet to finish a single cycle but the class currently is very good but without Keeley and a QB its not elite like other program's classes. Will it be better than Kelly's class? Who knows. Time will tell. Just don't assume it will until it happens.
Well where is our 3rd quality QB this year then??? Why are we in this QB mess then?
He is getting it done at LSU with starting with far less talent - would you not agree???
Like you said, the class isn’t signed yet. Trust in Freeman.