Maybe not but like I said, he'd have ND in a position to win ten games right now. Of course it's impossible to know where this team would be with kelly as the HC but I think most would agree that we'd be a one loss team right now and I wouldn't be shocked if he was able to upset Clemson at home (he did it a couple years ago) or that he would beat USC (8-3 overall record against them and won five straight) to end the season 10-2.
10-2 with another NY6 bowl loss feels right.
Yep. He would've been aware enough to grab JT Daniels from the portal and we'd be 5-1 right now.
Basically the opposite of what ND did.
Maybe? Coan in 2021 was the first year he took a transfer QB, so there's no guarantee he sweet talks Daniels into transferring.
Not I. The MF experiment, if handled correctly by the admin, is a low risk/high reward one. Odds are recruiting will be better than how BK left it. If MF hits, it will get even better. If he doesn't, cupboard is fuller than how BK found it and left it for whichever bonafide HC comes next. No brainer move IMO...
Imagine Ruhle not going to the Panthers, staying at Baylor, then taking the ND job when BK left. I'd be all for that one.
I just don't see it with this roster. 2020 had Book, Williams, Joe Moore worthy OLine, Hamilton, JOK on that team.
Weird post.
IMO Rhule is a bit overrated. Yes he turned temple into a competitive team by Temple standards which is noteworthy, but overall his run at Baylor and in Carolina were not all that impressive. He put together a decent record his last season at Baylor, but lost to anybody with a pulse. He is a guy that will bring stability to a program and make them competitive, but hes not a championship level coach, or recruiter.
All true and great points but the saddest part is from the people who did not and do not want Coach Freeman as the Head Coach for non-football related reasons… and openly pen these thoughts to various forums.
We can agree to disagree on this one. When you make Temple viable and get to the big 12 title game at Baylor, you're legit.
If you can't get to a NY6 Bowl then what do you do? We are not ranked despite starting out 5th in the nation. Muy Malo.
How is hiring a DC with no experience as a HC a low risk endeavor? You have Fickel that is a proven HC.
Had Fickel not been in the playoff, I bet he would have gotten an interview at least. Had we waited around until after the playoff, it probably would have negatively impacted recruiting and, had Fickel not wanted the job after the interview, sent a clear message to everyone that Freeman wasn't the first choice.
Yes, it was a timing thing. Basically Fickell was off the board for any school not willing to wait until after the playoffs.
Isn't it COMICAL in retrospect? We don't want to wait on interviewing a HC that is so successful that he takes his Non-P5 team to the Playoffs to hire an untested DC and retain a young bull OC. Because no way would Fickell been okay with an OC being put on him. Like the equivalent of a Jet Sweep with your slowest WR on the goal line
You are also assuming Fickel would have taken the job. Had he 100% (not Dante Moore's 100%, but actually 100%) for sure would have taken it, current hindsight shows it might have been a good hire. However, if we wait, and wait, and interview, and he turns us down. Man what a shit storm that would've caused.
I'm thankful for what he was able to do with the program after the Weis years, but I still prefer Freeman. I still want to roll the dice on having a relentless recruiter call the shots. No doubt, he has been screwed over by the QB room that Rees and Kelly put together and the WR room that Del put together. Marcus needs the chance to hire his own OC so they can attract a quality grad transfer and improve the abomination that is Rees' QB room.
yeah, there was a reason BK brought in jack coan last year rather than going with drew pyne who he recruited. dont know if he would have landed jt daniels or someone else but he would have been smart enough to see the writing on the wall with his current qb depth chart. ND probably would have finished this season 9-3 with a NY6 bowl game apperence.
no kidding. a lot of fans complained and wanted BK gone cause 10-2 or 11-1 wasnt good enough. well they got what they wished for BK gone and MF as the new coach hope there enjoying how it worked out.
yeah some of those early losses BK had were frustrating (USF, Tulsa, UM, MSU).
