Changes Coming to Transfer Rules?

[pumpdog20]

Not a fan, and the wrong way to go to pretend to be about student athletes.

 

[ND NYC]

Does anyone in charge of anything know what the f-ck they are even doing anymore?

 

[Irishnuke]

Horrible idea. Can’t think of anyone this is good for.

Bama, OSU, Clemson, Georgia, Auburn, Texas, USC, Florida, Florida State. They’ll rape the small schools. They’ll even rape other less successful P5 schools. Kid has a breakout year at Vanderbilt...boom, winds up at Bama the following year.

 

[STLDomer]

Bama, OSU, Clemson, Georgia, Auburn, Texas, USC, Florida, Florida State. They’ll rape the small schools. They’ll even rape other less successful P5 schools. Kid has a breakout year at Vanderbilt...boom, winds up at Bama the following year.

Kid doesn’t get immediate PT at Bama. Boom he transfers to Georgia. It’s too cold at OSU. Boom he transfers to Florida State. Auburn brings in a new CB. Boom I’m out to Texas for the starting job and some bag money. It’ll work left, right, up, down and all over.

 

[Irishnuke]

Kid doesn’t get immediate PT at Bama. Boom he transfers to Georgia. It’s too cold at OSU. Boom he transfers to Florida State. Auburn brings in a new CB. Boom I’m out to Texas for the starting job and some bag money. It’ll work left, right, up, down and all over.

Yeah it’s going to be a complete shit show if this happens.

 

[Luckylucci]

Yea, it’ll certainly be a shit show but that doesn’t mean some programs and players won’t benefit. Football factories will definitely benefit from this.

 

[stlnd01]

Does anyone in charge of anything know what the f-ck they are even doing anymore?

At the NCAA? Or the world in general?

 

[stlnd01]

Yea, it’ll certainly be a shit show but that doesn’t mean some programs and players won’t benefit. Football factories will definitely benefit from this.

But they’ll lose their depth. Some guys would rather start at Indiana than be #2 at Ohio State, especially when they know Urban could poach another guy to start above them next year.
Do coaches actually support this? It’s going to be very hard to build a program if everybody is essentially on a one-year contract.

 

[STLDomer]

But they’ll lose their depth. Some guys would rather start at Indiana than be #2 at Ohio State, especially when they know Urban could poach another guy to start above them next year.
Do coaches actually support this? It’s going to be very hard to build a program if everybody is essentially on a one-year contract.

+1. You’re talking about giving an 18 year old a get out of jail free card for a 4 year choice he made. Do people realize how often student athletes think about transferring? It crosses ALL of their minds at some point. Heck Tua from Bama reports were he was about to announce a transfer.

 

[ND NYC]

At the NCAA? Or the world in general?

Both!

 

[ACamp1900]

Yea, it’ll certainly be a shit show but that doesn’t mean some programs and players won’t benefit. Football factories will definitely benefit from this.

Yeah... I can see a scenario where it adds to the wild west nature of things... can really see one where this benefits ND in any real way, at least as I understand it now.

 

[Blaise]

It benefits the student athlete...

If coaches can leave anytime and they are getting PAID, why can't a student athlete get a 1 time get out of jail card.

IF they were sold a bunch of goods and school lied, transfer, if coach leaves, transfer, if you thought u could handle the cold and you can't, transfer, if they told you they wouldn't recruit a 5 star QB the year after you and then they do, transfer...

I'm all for giving student athletes more power in their lives.

Does this hurt ND... absolutely, does it help the Power 5 super powers, absolutely, but it also helps that 3rd string LB at Bama who needs a break and transfer for Purdue without penalty to get a chance to show the NFL he has what it takes...

 

[Luckylucci]

But they’ll lose their depth. Some guys would rather start at Indiana than be #2 at Ohio State, especially when they know Urban could poach another guy to start above them next year.
Do coaches actually support this? It’s going to be very hard to build a program if everybody is essentially on a one-year contract.

No they wouldn't, if that were the case, those players would be choosing Indiana from the start, and doing so already (like right now). It's not like OSU is rolling out a freshman line up every year.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Sounds like it's dead. At least for this year.

 

[Legacy]

Miami blocking Evan Shirreffs grad transfer request the latest issue in a flawed system

Shirreffs is currently blocked from playing right away at 18 schools to finish his Masters degree

 

[ThePiombino]

Miami blocking Evan Shirreffs grad transfer request the latest issue in a flawed system

What am I missing? He has his degree in hand. Why can the university still block his post-graduation options?

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[Legacy]

The NCAA as well as the ACC allows graduate transfers without restrictions. However, individual schools within the ACC can, evidently, impose restrictions as Miami has done in this case.

From: Should restrictions be placed on NCAA graduate transfers?

With no NCAA rule in place prohibiting the restriction of graduate transfer destinations, beyond permission-to-contact mandates, conferences and schools have enacted their own measures. From there, legislation varies.

The ACC exempts those with baccalaureate degrees from its intra-conference transfer rules, which require players not only to sit out a year, but lose a year of competitive eligibility. The Big Ten and Pac-12 have the same stipulations as the ACC, only without a graduate transfer exemption. Big 12 graduate transfers can move within the conference without penalty as long as they meet NCAA requirements. In the Big East, transferring within the conference in men’s and women’s basketball is forbidden, even for athletes who have graduated.

Beyond a conference’s guidelines, individual institutions can implement their own rules, a designation that has led Pitt and Johnson into their present stalemate. Pitt’s policy — which was applied to Johnson and Rozelle Nix, a 6-foot-11 center who transferred to South Alabama in May — was crafted by members of the athletic department, the faculty athletic representative and the office of general counsel and is subject to periodic audits from the university and the ACC.

Transfer restrictions placed on Miami RB Gus Edwards are institutional policy, AD says Jan 2017

If I was a recruit, I would check to see what the individual school's restrictions are for graduate transfer.

Swarbrick isn’t in favor of eliminating the (gradaute transfer) rule, just closing the loophole on athletes transferring without serious commitment to an academic program to obtain a graduate degree.

I’m not in favor of eliminating it. If our primary mission is educational and we certify that a young man or woman has earned a degree from our university and I’m certifying that they can work for Price-Waterhouse or a bank somewhere or to go into a graduate program at another school, I’m certifying the can go do stuff elsewhere. I don’t think I ought to be limiting that in an athletic sphere.

I think the notion that people who are attending school at any level ought to be serious about studying while they are there is an important issue so what program are they in and what are they doing is the relevant consideration. I’m not interested in trying to limit their abilities.

 

[ThePiombino]

The NCAA as well as the ACC allows graduate transfers without restrictions. However, individual schools within the ACC can, evidently, impose restrictions as Miami has done in this case.

From: Should restrictions be placed on NCAA graduate transfers?


Transfer restrictions placed on Miami RB Gus Edwards are institutional policy, AD says Jan 2017

If I was a recruit, I would check to see what the individual school's restrictions are for graduate transfer.

Swarbrick isn’t in favor of eliminating the (gradaute transfer) rule, just closing the loophole on athletes transferring without serious commitment to an academic program to obtain a graduate degree.

Wow, that's horseshit.

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[dublinirish]

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Retroactive enforcement. "Hey guys, we were busy figuring shit out a decade too late so you need to withdraw now because as of this very moment, we're putting new transfer rules into place.

I reserve this for very special cases but I HATE the NCAA. I don't care that the rules are likely improvements, I simply hate how they operate, how illogical and inconsistent they are with everything.

 

[ACamp1900]

I had a realization this week that I honestly may not even give a fuck about cfb anymore.... they've killed literally every aspect that once made it special.

 

[dublinirish]

I had a realization this week that I honestly may not even give a fuck about cfb anymore.... they've killed literally every aspect that once made it special.

you've outed yourself as Mike Frank.

 

[BoredIrish]

As long as the new rules make it easier for ND to land a QB, I'm all for it.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Didn't really know where to put this, but apparently there's a HUGE development in play with the transfer portal.

Per Dave Shumate from Mach10Sports, teams are finding out that they're not going to be able to add 4-4 transfers from the portal in January, and will instead have to wait until the summer for them to enroll.

4-4 refers to players going from a 4-year institution to a 4-year institution.

This is VERY good news for ND, because as we know, ND is not in a position to take advantage of the transfer portal when it comes to these types of transfers. However, this rule doesn't apply to grad transfers, which ND can take advantage of. This rule will be a deterrent for players to transfer out, as they'll have to miss spring ball, which is pretty crucial for developing chemistry and getting much needed practice in. It also means that teams can't just load up on transfers to compensate for their holes in the roster immediately. They'll have to wait.

 

[T-Boone]

Didn't really know where to put this, but apparently there's a HUGE development in play with the transfer portal.

Per Dave Shumate from Mach10Sports, teams are finding out that they're not going to be able to add 4-4 transfers from the portal in January, and will instead have to wait until the summer for them to enroll.

4-4 refers to players going from a 4-year institution to a 4-year institution.

This is VERY good news for ND, because as we know, ND is not in a position to take advantage of the transfer portal when it comes to these types of transfers. However, this rule doesn't apply to grad transfers, which ND can take advantage of. This rule is be a deterrent for players to transfer out, as they'll have to miss spring ball, which is pretty crucial for developing chemistry and getting much needed practice in. It also means that teams can't just load up on transfers to compensate for their holes in the roster immediately. They'll have to wait.

Like it.

 

[NDRock]

Probably better for both sides. Teams/players will have a much better idea where they stand after going through Spring practice and workouts. I'd say quite a few players who transfer during January are just frustrated by how the season went and would have been better served waiting. Not sure it's going to keep the big boys from filling holes like they do now. We'll see.

 

[stlnd01]

That does seem like a better system for us, and should curtail especially some of the QB musical chairs (makes someone like Buchner less likely to transfer if he can’t compete for QB1 at a new school in the spring).

If this is being implemented immediately though, I’ve got to say, it kind of sucks for guys who have already left their team with plans to transfer (ahem Jacob Lacey). They’ll basically miss a season AND spring ball.

Do we consider Dave Shumate from Mach 10 Sports a credible outlet? Can’t say I’ve ever heard of them.

 

[MacIrish75]

 

[Crazy Balki]

If this is being implemented immediately though, I’ve got to say, it kind of sucks for guys who have already left their team with plans to transfer (ahem Jacob Lacey). They’ll basically miss a season AND spring ball.

Lacey is a senior and will graduate before transferring, so this rule does not apply to him. This is only for undergrad transfers.

 

[IrishLax]

Didn't really know where to put this, but apparently there's a HUGE development in play with the transfer portal.

Per Dave Shumate from Mach10Sports, teams are finding out that they're not going to be able to add 4-4 transfers from the portal in January, and will instead have to wait until the summer for them to enroll.

4-4 refers to players going from a 4-year institution to a 4-year institution.

This is VERY good news for ND, because as we know, ND is not in a position to take advantage of the transfer portal when it comes to these types of transfers. However, this rule doesn't apply to grad transfers, which ND can take advantage of. This rule will be a deterrent for players to transfer out, as they'll have to miss spring ball, which is pretty crucial for developing chemistry and getting much needed practice in. It also means that teams can't just load up on transfers to compensate for their holes in the roster immediately. They'll have to wait.

One year too late but I'll take it. This USC "reload" never would've happened with this rule in place. This rule also takes a lot of the "scariness" of an end-of-season coaching change off of the table. One of the fears of a prolonged coaching search in the winter is that players will hit the portal. You still have to worry about signing your incoming class if it happens before ESP, but it's not half as bad as it was since they put in the insta-transfers + portals.