Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

[InKellyWeTrust]

If we hire Tommy Rees as our next HC I’ll jump off touchdown Jesus.

This, I'll join you

 

[Irish du Nord]

Errr and got smashed by the SEC/Clemson in the playoff.. Sooo..

Get smashed by the SEC champ just like every single SEC team did.. Sooo..

 

[anarin]

Errr and got smashed by the SEC/Clemson in the playoff.. Sooo..

Which is something we can't forget. BK built ND back to relevance, BUT he still failed to win the big game almost every single time.

He took a HUGE risk going there where they will expect immediate results. And if he gets smashed by Bama three straight seasons, the tune will change real quick.

 

[irishff1014]

I saw that Brady Quinn said he heard it had a little bit to do with not getting the things he asked for. So either Jack isn't telling the truth or this is an excuse for Kelly.

 

[BoredIrish]

I saw that Brady Quinn said he heard it had a little bit to do with not getting the things he asked for. So either Jack isn't telling the truth or this is an excuse for Kelly.

There are no plans to re-make the Gug... so dont we already know what the truth is here?

 

[GATTACA!]

I saw that Brady Quinn said he heard it had a little bit to do with not getting the things he asked for. So either Jack isn't telling the truth or this is an excuse for Kelly.

Who hates ND football more? Michigan or the ND administration?

 

[Free Manera]

As the details come out on the contract, this wasn't about money. ND actually does pay its coaches competitively. But they also make their job way more difficult than it needs to be. Kelly left because he wanted:

1. psych/mental performance staff expansion
2. a power 5 level athletic complex with the appropriate space, staffing, and amenities, and
3. private transportation for coaches visiting recruits.

The admin called his bluff and he said seeya. Any legit coach is going to demand these same things. So ND has to give in, or get a not legit coach.

 

[ulukinatme]

If we hire Tommy Rees as our next HC I’ll jump off touchdown Jesus.

Wouldn't be the first time you've made a bad jump. Still got your Manziel jersey?

 

[317Irish]

As the details come out on the contract, this wasn't about money. ND actually does pay its coaches competitively. But they also make their job way more difficult than it needs to be. Kelly left because he wanted:

1. psych/mental performance staff expansion
2. a power 5 level athletic complex with the appropriate space, staffing, and amenities, and
3. private transportation for coaches visiting recruits.

The admin called his bluff and he said seeya. Any legit coach is going to demand these same things. So ND has to give in, or get a not legit coach.

This is probably a crazy thought to have, but is there any chance that their was a small amount of selfless “take one for the team” mentality with Kelly calling their bluff? I can’t shake the thought that he knows the things we need to change in order to make it over the hump and him drawing a line in the sand and leaving when they won’t commit to those changes is his way of saying wake up and enter the 21st century folks…

 

[ACamp1900]

Wouldn't be the first time you've made a bad jump. Still got your Manziel jersey?

He can prob crack that thing in half at this point from all the 'loving up' on it.....

 

[Free Manera]

This is probably a crazy thought to have, but is there any chance that their was a small amount of selfless “take one for the team” mentality with Kelly calling their bluff? I can’t shake the thought that he knows the things we need to change in order to make it over the hump and him drawing a line in the sand and leaving when they won’t commit to those changes is his way of saying wake up and enter the 21st century folks…

I honestly think Kelly thought they would do it if he held their feet to the fire. Does a 60 year old from Boston who has ND on auto pilot really want to go to Baton Rouge, rebuild a culture and program, and play Saban every year? Oh and the fanbase is already doubting you. I think he wanted to win a title at ND and he believed he could not do it without these upgrades (which would allow him to get better players, and also develop them better).

 

[ACamp1900]

I honestly think Kelly thought they would do it if he held their feet to the fire. Does a 60 year old from Boston who has ND on auto pilot really want to go to Baton Rouge, rebuild a culture and program, and play Saban every year? Oh and the fanbase is already doubting you. I think he wanted to win a title at ND and he believed he could not do it without these upgrades (which would allow him to get better players, and also develop them better).

The real question is what to do change your name to now????

 

[Free Manera]

The real question is what to do change your name to now????

TBD

 

[NDPhilly]

For 4 straight 10 win seasons prior to 2021, Kelly should have been handed anything he wanted. It's like the Administration forgets what a shit show 1996-2016 was.

 

[AKRowdy]

Was there really only a handful of players at the meeting this morning? Thought I read that from somewhere.

 

[GowerND11]

The real question is what to do change your name to now????

Chip Kelly enters the chat...

 

[Whiskeyjack]

For 4 straight 10 win seasons prior to 2021, Kelly should have been handed anything he wanted. It's like the Administration forgets what a shit show 1996-2016 was.

A lot of them haven't "forgotten" insomuch as they just don't like the football program and don't pay attention even when we're doing well.

You guys surely remember my rants about how we hire professors that actively hate the Church and end up undermining the school's mission from within. This is similar in that, if you don't understand the role that NDFB has played in putting the University on the map, then you clearly don't understand ND and probably don't belong in administration.

 

[Luckylucci]

Yea, it's less about them not remembering and more about them not caring.

 

[Sea Turtle]

For 4 straight 10 win seasons prior to 2021, Kelly should have been handed anything he wanted. It's like the Administration forgets what a shit show 1996-2016 was.

Forget? They caused it.

 

[ACamp1900]

I'm totally prepared to lose Freeman now,... it brings clarity to the presser this morning. Swarbrick prob knew enough to feel he could not retain Freeman. If you view the presser from that angle it makes much more sense. This will be a complete coaching overhaul and it will take time. sucks it had to happen this year with this class but yeah,.. that's totally my expectation as of the time of this post.

 

[IrishLax]

It’s being reported now that he initially turned down LSU 5 days ago, then they lost out on Lincoln Riley because Riley didn’t want to coach in the SEC, and then they came back to Kelly with more money and a bigger contract.

Seems like there is a window there where Swarbrick likely misplayed this badly and we may never get confirmation on what exactly transpired between him and Kelly. But it is also less surprising to me — if that’s the case — that Kelly is trying to burn it all down on his way out of the door.

 

[GowerND11]

A lot of them haven't "forgotten" insomuch as they just actively don't like the football program and don't pay attention even when we're doing well.

You guys surely remember my rants about how we hire professors that actively hate the Church and end up undermining the school's mission from within. This is similar in that, if you don't understand the role that NDFB has played in putting the University on the map, then you clearly don't understand ND and probably don't belong in administration.

There is a reason us Irish (and Polish, and Italian, and Lithuanian) Catholics in the coal fields of Schuylkill County became ardent supporters of Notre Dame, and it isn't because of the academics. It was because of a tenacious, blue collar football program from a small Catholic University made them believe in something more than factories, railroads, and mines. Am I romanticizing a bit? Absolutely. But the stories I got to hear as a child of my grandmother, her siblings, and my great grandfather huddling around the radio (then tv) to hear the Irish play because they represented their beliefs and their life across the country means something.

Knowing that my Great Grandmother and Great Grandfather packed up the car with her sister and husband, and drove god knows how many hours in the 1930s just to visit Notre Dame, tells you what the football team did for many of us Catholics across the country. It wasn't because of having the best Business undergrad, or research grants.

 

[NorthDakota]

I'm totally prepared to lose Freeman now,... it brings clarity to the presser this morning. Swarbrick prob knew enough to feel he could not retain Freeman. If you view the presser from that angle it makes much more sense. This will be a complete coaching overhaul and it will take time. sucks it had to happen this year with this class but yeah,.. that's totally my expectation as of the time of this post.

It just wouldn't make sense...taking a coordinator job ANYWHERE (including the NFL) is not as good as the Notre Dame head coaching job.

Unless ND only wants him as a coordinator?

 

[ACamp1900]

It just wouldn't make sense...taking a coordinator job ANYWHERE (including the NFL) is not as good as the Notre Dame head coaching job.

Unless ND only wants him as a coordinator?

Maybe he simply doesn't want to coach at ND for all the same reasons BK left,.......

 

[Irish#1]

It’s being reported now that he initially turned down LSU 5 days ago, then they lost out on Lincoln Riley because Riley didn’t want to coach in the SEC, and then they came back to Kelly with more money and a bigger contract.

Seems like there is a window there where Swarbrick likely misplayed this badly and we may never get confirmation on what exactly transpired between him and Kelly. But it is also less surprising to me — if that’s the case — that Kelly is trying to burn it all down on his way out of the door.

I read last night that LSU offered Kelly back when they decided Ed was done and he turned them down then. Riley is smart. He knows his style of play wouldn't do as well against better competition.

 

[ulukinatme]

FWIW I know Brady Quinn and some other media peeps said facility upgrades were a sticking point for Kelly leaving, but among recent and current players that seems to be a non-factor for many. Most realize there are programs with a few more amenities, but at the end of the day they asked, "What more do we really need? What needs to be done?" There were some small things they would have liked to have, but they're not living in the Dark Ages.

I think Eli said something similar when it came to current recruits. If you're coming to ND it's likely for the culture, the academics, etc. Facilities are least of your concerns. He said most of them were committed to the school, not the coach, which was good to hear.

 

[GATTACA!]

It’s being reported now that he initially turned down LSU 5 days ago, then they lost out on Lincoln Riley because Riley didn’t want to coach in the SEC, and then they came back to Kelly with more money and a bigger contract.

Seems like there is a window there where Swarbrick likely misplayed this badly and we may never get confirmation on what exactly transpired between him and Kelly. But it is also less surprising to me — if that’s the case — that Kelly is trying to burn it all down on his way out of the door.

If it wasn’t about the money how much else is under Swarbrick’s purview? Gug upgrades? Mental health staff? A private jet?

 

[Free Manera]

FWIW I know Brady Quinn and some other media peeps said facility upgrades were a sticking point for Kelly leaving, but among recent and current players that seems to be a non-factor for many. Most realize there are programs with a few more amenities, but at the end of the day they asked, "What more do we really need? What needs to be done?" There were some small things they would have liked to have, but they're not living in the Dark Ages.

I think Eli said something similar when it came to current recruits. If you're coming to ND it's likely for the culture, the academics, etc. Facilities are least of your concerns. He said most of them were committed to the school, not the coach, which was good to hear.

It seems to go beyond a few amenities. From what I'm reading/hearing, the facilities issue is not just about a barber shop and an infinity pool. The current facilities are so far below the standard that they are used against ND in recruiting, and the coaches have said it matters.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

If it wasn’t about the money how much else is under Swarbrick’s purview? Gug upgrades? Mental health staff? A private jet?

If I understood what I heard correctly, Kelly himself paid for the mental performance coach because ND would not.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

If I understood what I heard correctly, Kelly himself paid for the mental performance coach because ND would not.

Hard to blame him for leaving then. We're one of the most profitable programs in the nation. There's no reason any NDFB coach should be coming out of pocket personally for an expense like that.